The Archie Battersbee case #3

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Sitting there almost all day everyday when someone isn't awake is not easy, in fact its bleeping hard She will also be angry and upset and will want to let off steam.

when your loved ones goes to bed tonight go sit on a chair and watch them no phone nothing just sit and watch them. and imagine doing that every day almost all day
I agree, plenty of people sat in hospital scroll on their phones, update social media etc, there is only so much lemon rubbing and watching you can do. it must be isolating and social media is an easy connection to everyone else and she has a massive group of people who will talk to her at all hours.

Having said that, I find it really sad that at this point she doesn’t have anyone who is sensible and loving enough to say enough now Hollie, time to turn your phone off.
 
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She's doing everything she can to deflect blame onto anything or anyone else, because she knows that in the end she is the one primarily responsible for her child committing suicide and doesn't want others to realise it too.

If she's not a sociopath (which fits, given her history and actions over the last few months), then she's heading for a complete and total mental breakdown come next week.
 
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Utterly shocked how H has said monday is the planned day to remove life support so two days away you would think she would spend these next two days with her son maybe doing some things she can keep like handprints and moulds . Hold his hand and really treasure the last two days with her son but instead she is all over social media calling doctors and NHS 😟
 
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Sitting there almost all day everyday when someone isn't awake is not easy, in fact its bleeping hard She will also be angry and upset and will want to let off steam.

when your loved ones goes to bed tonight go sit on a chair and watch them no phone nothing just sit and watch them. and imagine doing that every day almost all day
i did exactly that for a week before my mother died in hospital. Pretty much 24/7. I was not on my phone. I knew my time with her was drawing to a close and I focused on that. What was hard was knowing she was dying, not sitting there with her.

And some people update you every 5 mins when they have a Dr appointment You are not them, they are not you.
You just said we didn’t know how hard it is. A bunch of people who have experienced it are telling you what they went through. Not sure why you feel the need to downgrade that.
 
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She's doing everything she can to deflect blame onto anything or anyone else, because she knows that in the end she is the one primarily responsible for her child committing suicide and doesn't want others to realise it too.

If she's not a sociopath (which fits, given her history and actions over the last few months), then she's heading for a complete and total mental breakdown come next week.
How do you know she is responsible for what he did? Do you always blame others when people attempt to end their lives? This is something close to my heart and tbh comments like yours are so unhelpful to people grieving loved ones who have ended their own lives, mental health is complex and there isn’t always someone to blame.

In this case we don’t know if Archie was attempting to end his own life, I don’t believe it was an online challenge but we have no idea if he was experimenting, being impulsive due to ADHD or actually trying to end his life. I don’t agree with his mum and what she is doing bur throwing statements about her being to blame is more akin to what I’d expect on the DFA page.
 
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How do you know she is responsible for what he did? Do you always blame others when people attempt to end their lives? This is something close to my heart and tbh comments like yours are so unhelpful to people grieving loved ones who have ended their own lives, mental health is complex and there isn’t always someone to blame.

In this case we don’t know if Archie was attempting to end his own life, I don’t believe it was an online challenge but we have no idea if he was experimenting, being impulsive due to ADHD or actually trying to end his life. I don’t agree with his mum and what she is doing bur throwing statements about her being to blame is more akin to what I’d expect on the DFA page.
The evidence is piling up at what an appalling mother she clearly was so it's not too much of a stretch to draw that conclusion. Blame is not always worthwhile pursuing though you're right as no doubt she had poor parenting too hence why she has turned out like she has.
 
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Utterly shocked how H has said monday is the planned day to remove life support so two days away you would think she would spend these next two days with her son maybe doing some things she can keep like handprints and moulds . Hold his hand and really treasure the last two days with her son but instead she is all over social media calling doctors and NHS 😟
She clearly wants his death to be as chaotic and disordered as his life seemingly was.
 
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The evidence is piling up at what an appalling mother she clearly was so it's not too much of a stretch to draw that conclusion. Blame is not always worthwhile pursuing though you're right as no doubt she had poor parenting too hence why she has turned out like she has.
What evidence exactly?

Facebook comments and rumours hardly count given that we don’t know whether there’s much truth to it or the nuances behind them
 
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Considering he was posting on TikTok about being depressed, any parent with a brain monitors their child online accounts. So she either left him to his own devices all the time, or knew and did nothing about it. 🤷‍♀️
 
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The evidence is piling up at what an appalling mother she clearly was so it's not too much of a stretch to draw that conclusion. Blame is not always worthwhile pursuing though you're right as no doubt she had poor parenting too hence why she has turned out like she has.
Indeed.

I'm not looking to lay blame - just working to understand the situation based on the available evidence. Given how much she's blaming anything and anyone else for this (saying that the hospital wants to 'rush' and 'execute' her son, for example), it seems pretty clear that it's projection and that she herself knows where the blame lies.
 
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Considering he was posting on TikTok about being depressed, any parent with a brain monitors their child online accounts. So she either left him to his own devices all the time, or knew and did nothing about it. 🤷‍♀️
Plenty of parents don’t monitor their child’s online presence. Hardly means they’re horrible parents all round

I don’t think Hollie was ideal by any means, but I also think it’s very hard to agree when parenting crosses into the bad line threshold

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I think it’s natural in such a situation to have some guilt yourself because there will always be a “what if” or the thought that you failed as a patent completely

Anyway, never thought I’d start looking like some weird Hollie stan account but there we are
 
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Plenty of parents don’t monitor their child’s online presence. Hardly means they’re horrible parents all round

I don’t think Hollie was ideal by any means, but I also think it’s very hard to agree when parenting crosses into the bad line threshold
As someone who got groomed heavy online, I’ll judge anyone who doesn’t and nothing can change my mind.

what do you think about her swapping her story every 5 seconds then? 🤔 do you not find that weird at all?
 
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The fact she’s changed her story so many times on how she discovered him is very weird. I hope there’s an inquest
 
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As someone who got groomed heavy online, I’ll judge anyone who doesn’t and nothing can change my mind.

what do you think about her swapping her story every 5 seconds then? 🤔 do you not find that weird at all?
What’s worst is he attempted suicide the day before . And she knows he did but clearly didn’t get any help or at least keep an eye on him .
 
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I think it’s natural in such a situation to have some guilt yourself because there will always be a “what if” or the thought that you failed as a patent completely
This is true and fair, but I'd argue that anyone at this level wouldn't be working so hard to shift the blame in the publics eye onto the doctors and nurses that have tried to do nothing but help for the last few months.
 
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what do you think about her swapping her story every 5 seconds then? 🤔 do you not find that weird at all?
Of course it’s weird but it doesn’t necessarily she’s done anything bad bad - I’ve seen people throw around the idea that she killed him herself for example

I wonder how much of it is due to natural guilt and having to deal with the whole idea that your child committing suicide is a sign that you failed as a parent, even when you may not have. That may be part of the reason she’s not letting go too because then it would be “decided” in a way

No doubt the money is a nice little (or not so little) bonus but it hardly means that all of her actions are decided by financial gain
 
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I really feel sorry for her other two children because her irrational thinking and rage,is going to go on,long after this is all over.
 
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