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theeyeroller

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I only signed up yesterday 🙈 I was expecting a lot more for my €32 intial sign up - I felt I was missing something but obviously not after reading all these! - I thought when they said personalized plan - it meant an actual diet plan and not ur cals / macros that u can easily get on line for free. I’ll give it a month and see if not I’ll be cancelling my €8.99 a month direct debit via my bank!
Save yourself while you can... 😉 Seriously all you’ll miss out on is unqualified people giving “advice” that can be found for free online whilst they walk on the spot like Peter Kay in the “Is this the Way to Amarillo” video 🤣
 
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Droosie123

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Richie has some serious issues going on. If you listen to him talk about his childhood it sounds awful. It's damaged him in an awful way but I think other people pay the price.

Rachael is (I suspect) in an abusive relationship, not physically but mentally. It's very telling that Richie says he has cleared the toxic people from her life. What he means is that he has potential totally isolated her from people who see the risks to her mental health.

I'll be interested to see if they stay together long term.
 
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rememberwayne

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I can honestly say I've not once come across another online fitness group/page etc that will tie you into a year long contract. That's the biggest teller to me.. it's definitely all about the money.
He said a few years ago on a live along the lines of ''come join us, learn this for life and then you can leave'' (paraphrasing there), but now they are locking people into contracts.

Ashbourne management are getting a lot of stick here, however I still think (I may be wrong) that the final say is with Team RH. The reason I think this is because Ashbourne management do a lot of collections for gym memberships, since lockdown I have not seen one person saying they are getting debt letters from Ashbourne management for their gym payments, I imagine the gym has placed a hold on payments. So if that is the case, I think Team RH should be able to do the same IF they want to.

The affiliates are/were mostly really annoying, apart from a couple who are now part of another group. There was a couple called Natalie and Liam but I think they’ve split up now. They both seemed to have a lot of issues. They still “coach” on the group facebook page but I’m pretty sure they don’t have any qualifications, which is really unethical especially when people are paying good money! There’s another one who can’t seem to stick to plan and spends most of the time talking about gynaecological type issues.

There’s so much tea I can’t even remember half of it, they sent legal letters to one of the affiliates who left and were really harassing her. Some of the stories told on one of the pages I’m on are horrific if they’re true. I’m inclined to believe they are as I don’t think there’s any smoke without fire and there are so many people reporting bad things I think it’s credible.

Richie is so rude to people, as I said I can cope ok with tough love but he frequently borders on abusive/ is abusive which could be really damaging to lots of people. So many people I’ve heard were scared to ask a question on the facebook page which is so wrong. I also doubt Richie or Rachael have ever had a real weight issue so can never truly empathise with people like me who really struggle with their weight. In Rachael’s before photos she literally looks normal which is a bit of an insult to folk like me who need to lose stones!
Exactly, there is so much smoke in this instance that there must be fire. I know other people in the industry etc such as James Smith are not people's cup of tea, but they do not have these horror stories coming out about them.

How many times as a follower/supporter of them do you see them being the ''victim'' again, and not actually start to realise maybe it is actually them all along?
 
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bagafreebee

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It should not be allowed locking people into a years subscription. They harp on about it being on £6.99 per month but its still over 12 months and a lot can happen in a year.
 
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ChubClubThug

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And have you got these assholes off your case? Iv got another email from Ashbourne this morning
They make me so so mad the way they hound people! No care for any individual circumstances whatsoever.

Team RH gave me their email when I wanted to cancel.
I'm getting all sorts of shit on Instagram for calling them out. I have no morals apparantly. Because I wanted to get into shape after having a baby I'm not enjoying him being a baby and I jumped in too soon.
Tell them all very firmly to FUCK OFF!! You are allowed to have an opinion it has nothing to do with the rest of his sheep. Don't feel bad I totally get where you're coming from. I have a 2yr old and struggle with fitness etc. Pack mentality it really makes me angry! They're bloody worse than the SW cult they think they are so above 🙄
 
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ChubClubThug

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Just shows how out of touch with the real world they are. It’s quite frankly dangerous to tell people to track the calories in medicine. Not safe at all, or realistic, or sustainable!
Pretty sure they dug into SW for people synning medication ...
 
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rememberwayne

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Nat is lovely, people sometimes have to put their own morals to one side when they have to put food on the table for their kids.

In terms of having a bad feeling about the hubby your radar is pretty spot on, he's notorious for sexting people on social media platforms has a lot of the same narcissistic traits as RH too i felt so sorry for her as it was being discussed on a FB group whether theyd split or not due to a couple of girls stating they were talking to him. I gather they have now split, he is very friendly with RH isnt he
I reserve judgement on that from a way a few people I know have been totally ignored by her despite being very very nice to her. I totally understand she and others have to put food on table, but your actions and who you align yourself with long term decide if you are ''lovely'' or not.
I used to have a lot of time for Rachael, but at the end of the day, it gets to the stage when you are complicit. No bright smile or nice demeanour will define who we are, it is our actions in life.
 
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I missed a payment earlier this year and nothing happened. I’ve not been following it lately but when I did it worked really well.

I think he’s an illiterate dick with an over inflated ego and wonder WTAF Rachel is doing with him. I ignore all that and just quietly use the app when I’m in the zone.

I don’t bother with any of the Facebook groups because all Facebook groups go bad at some point, I think. I particularly hate food/slimming groups.

I’m going to have a look at James Smith on the back of this thread. If his principles are the same but he has a more professional delivery he’ll probably suit me more.
 
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rememberwayne

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The more thought I give it, the more I think she must be on board with it all. She doesn't appear to do anything to stop him treating their members the way he does.

They've taken the whole excuses thing too far. There's a difference between encouraging someone to let down barriers, giving them confidence to know that they can do it & being completely intolerant of anyone who isn't massively consumed with steps & macros. It's unhealthy.
They've probably started out with good intentions but have regressed. There's no coming back from that mindset he's trapped in. I believe they're sizeist.
They have lived their life as if it was lockdown for years, there is absolutely no need for it the money they are making. In my opinion I think this will end tragically, something will come out revealing what we have alluded to in this thread or even something darker (I hope not but I get an awful feeling).
 
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Dd29

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I paid for the year up front
I read it as you pay the price whether you pay upfront or over the year.
Bit like if you buy a sofa then decide you don't want it.... You still have to pay it off.
Perhaps they have made it clearer recently but I knew how much signing up would cost me.
 
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theeyeroller

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This has been such an interesting read. I follow RH and so many people recommend them but I think they have just been sucked in (probably through fear) I’m off to look at Preece Nutrition. I used to be part of Munro Fitness and really liked Jason. I lost over 40lbs and looked amazing. Losing weight is only done in a calorie deficit and once you know how to calculate it you don’t need to pay anyone.
I found it odd when he was talking about women’s periods stopping - team RH. It worried me that someone unqualified in the medical profession was giving advice.
I bloody love Liam from Rebelfit he’s ace.
People think Tattle is full of trolls but most things I’ve read have just been giving opinions and telling the the truth, often opening people’s eyes to things. I think a lot of these online fitness people get too big for their boots and start giving advice when they’re not qualified which is very dangerous. Definitely check out Preece Nutrition, I’ve been part of all these groups and his is the first one I’ve felt comfortable enough to ask for help.
 
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ChubClubThug

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Exactly this, they’re not juggling 2 jobs doing long hours at a desk, they haven’t got kids or people they’re caring for, they basically step/work out/eat/talk for a living so it’s their job rather than something to fit around everything else
With the occasional visit to his nana....

It is nice to see that other people feel the same, that group has become more and more cult-like and they literally have one mode and method. I found it amusing at first, but all the shouting and swearing became old very quickly. I am a grown woman not a 15yr old boy🙄
 
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ChubClubThug

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That's your dinner sorted Richie. He's stinking. Probably been living off the stuff for the past week so had to google it for his macros. You're too cool Richie 🙄 just so shocking and wild, how can we cope.

I normally wouldn't pick this apart but since it's him with another absurd attention seeking post...one calorie is singular & it's "there you go".

He conjures up an unclean image in my mind, from his stinking bum hole finger, cereal/cottage cheese microwave meal and now this 😂
I always thought he looks like he stinks of B.O at all times
 
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theeyeroller

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I’m pretty sure most of the “coaches” and walkie talkie folk are unqualified. I don’t actually know how qualified R and R are, I think he was a PT but I think everything else regarding nutrition etc is just what they’ve read in journals or online. Whereas Preece Nutrition is actually a nutritionist educated at degree level and Jason Munro (who Richie gave a really hard time for branching off and setting up his own business but now it makes sense why he did!) has got a Nutrition qualification now.
 
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theeyeroller

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It’s just another attempt for him to say “look how lucky you are to have me” - maybe she thinks she is, maybe he’s not the person he comes across as on social media but I doubt it. I’ve seen lots of posts from him basically saying how he’s so amazing to her and in a nutshell she’s weak - how she was downtrodden when he met her, how she lacks self esteem, how she’s struggled over the last year but I don’t recall any posts from him saying all the things she’s good at? Maybe he should compliment her more, especially about things that aren’t related to working out or weighing your food out to 0.1 of a gram!
 
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Droosie123

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Me too! Hes a narcissistic arrogant prat!

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Yes I have commented on that but I've made similar comments before. RH has backtracked a bit in saying that if you're really ill then of course you shouldn't be calorie counting.

I think he has a lot of issues and that most of them are tied up with an abusive childhood. He's posted about that before but forgets he's now an adult who can make adult choices.

If and when Rebelfit messes up (and sometimes he does) he is the first one to say "I apologise, I've reflected on what I said and I was dick." I have yet to see RH step back and say "I'm so sorry, I got that utterly wrong".
 
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