TeamRH

[Asparagus123]

I was tempted to join up last year but so glad I didn’t ! I’m a frequent member of slimming world but in January I made a decision that I will never pay again for someone to say I need to lose weight ! I know I need to shift a bit of weight and I decided to do it on my own just calorie counting and trying to get out walking as much as possible and just do it at a sensible pace and not to wear myself out doing ridiculous hit workouts etc !
I’ve lost 10lb since Christmas and feel I’m doing it in a more manageable way and I don’t need to pay anyone ever again

 

[Swipe Up!]

I’ve read all 22 pages today because RH is a cunt.

I knew of him when he was on a local football forum floating the idea of being a weight loss guru in 2016, I think it was. He was up his own arse then but it’s increasingly gone to his head. He’s a fucking cock. He needs to see therapy and his prisoner girlfriend needs to run for the hills.

He loves himself but he’s the type that would shit bricks of someone actually confronted him.

I then saw his FB group and joined (this was forever ago at the beginning) though I never fully bought into “him” but I know that weight loss only comes from a calorie deficit thought I’d give the group a go because I do better with support and accountability.

I’ve always thought his approach was shit but I stayed as part of the group because of the support from other members. I cancelled the membership when he introduced the most chaotic, unfit for purpose, useless app.

He has no idea how to communicate or relate to people, and he can’t physically control everyone so he uses the only tools he knows: apparent shock tactics and attacking people. That works with some people but he’s missing a huge percentage of people who need another type of approach. And because he can’t do it all he uses bully tactics - from the way they respond to reviews to the way in which they’ve created a community where negativity is not allowed. Unless it’s coming from his fucking cake hole.

I don’t understand how people keep saying his plan works. It’s not his fucking plan. It’s science. He’s just created a way to monetise it just like all of these other weight loss companies he always calls out. There are so many online personal trainers and weight loss support groups that not only cost less but actually offer you REAL support with the calories in vs calories out info anyone can find online. I don’t understand why anyone chooses this controlling, abusive, money-grabbing, basic bitch.

He’s a cunt

 

[Yorkgirl20]

What an eye opener this thread is. I’m a member still paying my monthly direct debit. When I started I lost consistently. Then lockdown part 2 happened and I lost a member of my family with that my mood changed and I stopped tracking. I need to get back on it and would like advice on how to start again, the thing stopping me? Richie! I would hate to become one of his ‘examples’ also not seen any new exercise videos so what are people actually paying for? His videos and posts at first I thought they were funny and I needed to hear it like that but I’ve found his posts recently awful. Calling people fatty bum bums really childish and something I heard on the playground at junior school not something to come from a 30 odd ‘professional’ a term I use loosely man.
Ive seen a few people comment on his relationship with Rachel didn’t he ‘rescue’ her from a bad relationship? It would seem this relationship may be just as bad? I can’t wait for my year to over and I will cancel at the first chance I get and find someone else who will help me achieve goals and someone who is approachable.

 

[ChubClubThug]

I actually like them
It makes sense.
Know your calories lose weight yes you lay for a year but with SW or ww they don't tell u your calories so I don't see a difference.

If you like them, good for you. Myself and many others don't. The actual "plan" is fine enough, the people running it are rotten, money grabbing bastards. Exactly the same as Slimming World and Weight Watchers. Though I can't say I've ever had a threatening email or a bill for extra charges from these other slimming companies!

 

[ChubClubThug]

Again I’ll ask what exactly that they lay out at part of sign up did you not get?

There’s nothing illegal about what they’re doing. The terms and conditions are there to see. They’re doing nothing wrong and you need to pay

https://teamrhfitness.com/shop/index.php?route=information/information/agree&information_id=5#YourRightsToEndTheContract

Online and distance selling

Rules for online and distance selling for businesses

www.gov.uk

You're confident are you that they are following these guidelines within their contract? Are you a member? Have you been a member? As someone else pointed out, the app doesn't work properly. This gives you grounds to cancel if you wish as you are not receiving what you are paying for. Plus other complex reasons I can't be arsed with. It's not black and white as you seem to think.

I've looked at this previously, what you've just googled.

In MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF THEM when they started randomly sending me bills for random amounts, I asked them to provide evidence of why they were charging me this and how they worked it out. Pretty sure that wasn't in my contract.

Not sure why you're getting all "can't pay take it away on me" as I never did cancel, the debit is still live on my account they're welcome to take the correct amount any time they like I'm speaking for the poor bastards who are being bullied by them.

I have also asked them to send me my legal contract I signed up to in the past and they did not have one for me. They did not send me one either. As I stated in a previous post, they CHANGED their terms and conditions after I was a member, I think it was edited in March. Can't remember exactly I don't look at their page or follow the arseholes anymore. All I will say is that I contacted citizens advice and they were very interested. Due to the last lockdown it was put on the back-burner, need to pick this back up again.

I'm sure that Ritchie finger my bum will be delighted you're championing his cause.

 

[wavebubbye]

Finding this thread has been eye opening, I thought it must just be me that was the problem. I’m loathe to post as he’s just using this forum for content ideas (as a side note, content has taken a nose dive since they got all the January diet crew in, no videos, no graphics ripped off from The Fitness Chef etc), but I feel others might also find it and save themselves the heartache of exposing themselves to this.

I joined in 2019 and my eating is now so disordered, I’ve fucked my mindset up so much - AND I’m 1.5 stone heavier thanks to all the binging I’ve done. I stress so much about macros, steps, nutrient dense etc I don’t know what to eat any more and I spend everyday getting stressed about it and binging as I think fuck it. Don’t get me wrong, calorie deficit works. Of course it does. But, not everyone can cope with that level of obsession - as an all or nothing person, being told to weigh every slice of bread, cold tablets, vitamins, weigh food you’d left on the plate to remove from your total, eat your calories even if you’re not hungry (the one that he really pushes) just made me completely neurotic. People being told if they’re not hungry but have calories left, eat a packet of ham, make a shake. What about just don’t eat as you’re not hungry?!. In a past life, I was a healthy weight, I ran marathons. Then I was hit by a car, recovered, then had a baby. My body has taken a literal beating and I just wanted to get healthy, now I’m worse than I’ve ever been and can’t see a way out.

I also struggle with the inconsistencies and the bad advice. Weighing everyday, sure I get that taking an average and just seeing it as data can be useful, but I also didn’t want to weight myself in front of my 1 year old daughter every morning, what kind of message is that giving her? When I said as much I basically got told to weigh at night “if it is such a big deal”. It really upset me as I don’t want my daughter thinking she needs to assess her body every day of her life, she doesn’t need to see this obsessive shit so early yet I’m basically lazy/an idiot if I don’t.

Another fun fact. At my calories, 1700, if I add 3 workouts a week it bumps to 1800 but protein goes DOWN. Someone rightly questioned this as surely you’d need more protein for muscle repair - but asked if maybe the additional carbs were for energy. Basically a solid nutritional reason. There isn’t one.
It’s basically because that’s the way MFP percentages work. So their nutritional advice is based on a one size fits all computer generated number, not what is best for your body, or the circumstances you’ve entered. Comments on that post were shut down, obviously, can’t dare point out the obvious.

Criticising Slimming World, then making some disgusting cottage cheese, weetabix and flavour drops combination - that is exactly what they do at SW!! Why is it any better if you’re doing it under the guise of macro obsession? Eat mad food combinations just to hit the numbers.

Having meltdowns and rants while telling his members that no one cares how hard their life is. Showing these ridiculous drawings of penis trackers. I mean.... I’m not a 15 year old boy. It’s crazy I gave this company money. Sorry for the length of this... so much anger right now.

 

[Baileygsd]

As a current member, I have felt so fed up with the group! Finally, somewhere where you can discuss issues and not get shut down for having an opinion that differs from the cult of TRH. I do feel it’s become like a cult, full of sycophants and woe betide the non believers.

*Long Post*
I do not have any issue with the concept of the plan. I think it’s obvious to state that every individual burns calories at differing rates and requires a calorie deficit specific to them for it to work.
My own experience was that I had been diagnosed as pre- diabetic, whilst not grossly overweight by most people’s standards, I was classed as obese by the NHS for my height. I managed to very, very slowly lose weight using MFP but still had a stone and a half to lose. I’d watched Richie and his page for many years and decided to join up.

I was set a calorie amount which I thought was way to high but I thought, maybe I’ve been eating too little and that’s why I’ve stalled? Set my steps at 10k and workout 3 times a week. Off we go...
I put weight on from the very first week. I upped my steps... they upped my calories... I upped my workouts and they wanted to up my calories. After 2 months and no weight loss.. ( bearing in mind I’m now half a stone heavier than when I started), I asked for help. The help was forthcoming but it wasn’t err, helpful. I spoke to a coach, their ‘top coach’ who went through all my data on MFP and the app. I had been the perfect client and tracked everything and she couldn’t find fault with anything apart from I’d added a slice of brown bread but hadn’t weighed it... twice. She told me tracking generically would cost me a lot of calories long term doing this. She also told me there was nothing wrong with what I was eating/drinking/ exercising and to stick at it. I explained I was legitimately concerned I’d gained weight and it wasn’t budging. I was also worried that I was in fact now maintaining considering all the exercise I was doing ( well over 15k a day on most days). She said it was likely muscle gains. She told me to trust the plan. So I did.
Cut to just after 3 months and now working out 5 times a week ( resistance training), 15k a day steps. No weight lost. Muscle definition coming through but my waist is getting bigger and so is my stomach. I contact the coaches and as I’d done progress pictures, I felt the undeniable truth was there for them to see. I was told they could see a difference. ( Yes, I’d got fatter!! ) When I asked them to specify where they saw physical differences in the pictures, they didn’t answer me. They told me to do more steps... and tried to make me up my calories and I refused. I pointed out I was now back to my dangerous pre diabetic weight and i had concerns about my health. I told them I’d had to buy bigger clothes as I couldn’t fit in old ones.
I felt the responses were literally cut and pasted from a data base of TRH material. Look at this video... follow these rules... absolutely felt like they didn’t have the expertise to address my very individual concerns. Found out that the coach is not qualified. Just someone who uses TRH and works out a lot by the look of it. No one ever said.. go and get checked at your Dr, this is unusual or anything remotely like that. Just stick to the plan. I had to negotiate to drop my calorie amount down to 1400 ( lowering my exercise days and steps) and when I said I wasn’t losing I was told that it was impossible not to Lose weight at 1400 calories, and Equating this amount to something a 7 year old child would Eat. So I was told to stick at it and get back in touch in 2 weeks.
Well I haven’t, I am so utterly disillusioned with their approach. I am doing it on my own again. As someone who gave it their all for 3 months I feel as though I didn’t fit Richies data “algorithm’ and no one could tell me why. Still
Paying as a member.
Due to his controlling nature I couldn’t even find members to speak to for their experiences, as he squashed the calorie clubs. His ego is out of control and I can’t bear to read the POD posts. It’s so false.

 

[NoseymumCheshire]

I wonder that this is aimed at.....
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[ChubClubThug]

On a budget fb group and a single mum asked for ideas on ways to lose weight. Someone said Team RH and I said beware of the contact if it doesn’t work, bearing in mind it’s a budget fb page and she’s a single mum...

well the teamrh cult didn’t like it (Hope these are in the right order)

Let the dickheads join ... Good luck to them if they like being told to stop fingering their arseholes a lot and basically being called a thick, fat, lazy bastard for not doing 100,000 steps a day, they'll love it! I hope they get charged magic sums of £37.97 for missing a £6.99 payment too

 

[MamaD]

Exactly, like I've said before; where are all his members who have kept the weight off for 5yrs using his methods? Because that's a favourite phrase of his.

He loves to tell the world how people in slimming clubs all put the weight back on and more in a 5yr time bracket. It's not an occurance exclusive to two diet clubs (sw and ww) I can't recall seeing any success stories apart from people with a.poxy 5% code employed by him

Exactly! I used to work for WW and they were very upfront about the failure rate. I don’t know why ple think these BUSINESSES would not be making money from their customers. I loved all my members and would never mislead or mis sell them anything but I was also doing a job. James Smith has books, premium memberships and his podcast. He is running a business. RH has a (crappy) app and some protein powder, also a business. Munro (a total copy of RH but nicer) total business and his poster girl lost ALL her weight with SW. Courtney Black, app and book, total business. Preece Nutrition (absolute sweetheart, lovely guy, super knowledgeable) still a business and ALL are slimming clubs.

 

[theeyeroller]

Has anyone seen Richie’s post about Rachael and how she was 150lbs when he met her, and even went up to 165lbs at one point in their relationship. What a way to alienate most of your followers who most likely are over 165lbs, acting as if she was super morbidly obese. That’s a fecking normal weight! How big of him to have got together with her when she was a whopping ten stone something . Absolute douche bag!

 

[Giggling Squid]

I actually like them
It makes sense.
Know your calories lose weight yes you lay for a year but with SW or ww they don't tell u your calories so I don't see a difference.

What makes sense is a calorie deficit. It’s their approach that I have a problem with. Berating people who don’t want to/can’t do “enough” steps... debt collectors. Their advice is questionable at best, and in some cases downright dangerous

 

[theeyeroller]

I actually hate these fuckers.
They've put up a post asking if people remember to track everything - tea, coffee, sugar, and a 14 year old comment about sperm lololol.
People comment saying ooh, I've actually not been tracking tea/coffee etc. Some joke comments.

Then a few hours later they post AGAIN. This time mocking people who commented saying they didn't track everything 100%.

How anyone can idolize these bastards is beyond me.

I hate the arrogance. Bet he’s got loads of time to track everything including tea, coffee and sperm when he’s essentially a teenager in a 36 year old’s body with plenty of time on his hands and no concept of the real world! I don’t understand the obsessive tracking down to the very calorie in a cup of bloody tea. Life is too short, and also nutrition labels are allowed to have up to 20% margin of error so no one can ever be 100% accurate with their calorie intake. For normal people with real jobs and real commitments tracking every single thing for the rest of their lives is not sustainable at all.

 

[ChubClubThug]

I have so many things to say about team rh but am scared as I know he reads these forums and will know who I am.

If he started on you after reading an anonymous forum, that would just prove what a psycho he is and I'd be taking police action against him. Because even if you said specific things, without admitting your name he would have NO PROOF it was you.

 

[rememberwayne]

None of these posts surprise me, infact these bad stories are mild to the stuff I have seen. I personally think Richie is a an awful human being, and Rachael is ultimately becoming complicit in all of his practices.

It is very much like a cult, ran by in my opinion a master manipulator. There plan is fine, it teaches calorie deficit, but that I believe is where their morales end, but surely they can't be that bad when the lovely smiling eye fluttering Rachael is there?

Some facts below what their members need to actually waken upto.......

1. Last June 2019, Richie did a victim playing live saying about how he works so hard that he does not have time to go away on holiday with his beloved girlfriend, this was all said whilst knowing fine well he was going away on holiday with the lads less than one week later. He has been away the last 4 years with the lads but does not take his partner on holiday, yet he tries to make it out he is unable to.

2. January they posted about last year, some people tried to bring him down, in reply what they did was work hard, put their head down and NOT RETALIATE. So that being said, is sending massive multiple page documents of threatening letters to ex staff and affiliate not count as retaliation? Yeah you put your head down and did not retaliate haha.

3. They make their staff and affiliates sign NDA's (none disclosure agreements), so essentially a document so what goes on never comes out in my opinion. They are just a weight loss group, I do not know of any other weight loss place taking such actions to keep a lid on things.

4. They are meant to be about making the diet world a better place, no pills, no shake diets etc. However they strive to make sure they are only ones giving this message, their affiliate contracts try to prevent them mentioning other people like James Smith etc mentioning the same truths.

5. Richie fights every single one star review on trustpilot, calling everyone who leaves a bad review as if they have an agenda. I rarely see people calling the plan (apart from app), it is the people and not the plan/business people are not happy with.

I personally believe this will blow up one day, there are loads of people with horrendous experiences that go way beyond just a bit ''tough love''. I liken it to the #metoo movement (not on the whole as extreme), but their are many many people deeply effected by them. Myself, I am one of many who can't stand to see them shared on my timeline, genuinely have PTSD symptoms I personally find them so despicable.

He labels these people as haters, we are not people who hate his plan, his business etc, we just see through him.

 

[PinkGin123]

I’m sorry, but this isn’t professional at all!

 

[Sazzla89]

I’m so glad that I have seen this. I’ve been debating joining RH since the start of the year. Recently joined Preece Nutrition after reading this and got to say that I am glad I did

 

[Raindancer74]

I WAS going to join RH but after finding this thread, it's a no from me. Like other posters, he seems too controlling, too shouty, too self righteous and a little bit controlling over HIS missus.

Take a look at Preece Nutrition. Peter was their nutritionist (he left there last year) and is qualified and really kind and supportive to everyone. You can ask.any question without fear or being shouted at or shamed. Peter really does help you.

 

[theeyeroller]

I didn't know about the debt collection agency stuff! That's awful.

I did the diet about 3 years ago & was in the best shape I've ever been in pretty much! I was a bit taken aback at the start as its so confusing - YOU MUST WATCH ALL THE VIDEOS but its not clear where to start & in which order etc & there is SO MUCH waffle & repeating themselves. The videos could be a quarter of the length if concise (I used to do this for a job so was shocked it was so bad).

I'm not into the SW style 'hun' there-there stuff but the tough talk was a bit much as Richie seemed to go in on people who were merely asking for advice. If you train people up properly, they can do it themselves.

The affiliate thing annoyed me, that awful Brummie couple, my god the bloke could moan for England, who were they? Natalie and someone, can't remember the bloke's name, he had quite a pretty face.

The affiliate thing seemed to be going down the pan with the 'teacher's pet' ones now out of favour/ sacked & all sorts of rumours of bullying.

The affiliates are/were mostly really annoying, apart from a couple who are now part of another group. There was a couple called Natalie and Liam but I think they’ve split up now. They both seemed to have a lot of issues. They still “coach” on the group facebook page but I’m pretty sure they don’t have any qualifications, which is really unethical especially when people are paying good money! There’s another one who can’t seem to stick to plan and spends most of the time talking about gynaecological type issues.

There’s so much tea I can’t even remember half of it, they sent legal letters to one of the affiliates who left and were really harassing her. Some of the stories told on one of the pages I’m on are horrific if they’re true. I’m inclined to believe they are as I don’t think there’s any smoke without fire and there are so many people reporting bad things I think it’s credible.

Richie is so rude to people, as I said I can cope ok with tough love but he frequently borders on abusive/ is abusive which could be really damaging to lots of people. So many people I’ve heard were scared to ask a question on the facebook page which is so wrong. I also doubt Richie or Rachael have ever had a real weight issue so can never truly empathise with people like me who really struggle with their weight. In Rachael’s before photos she literally looks normal which is a bit of an insult to folk like me who need to lose stones!

 

[ChubClubThug]

Still don’t see it. You buy something that says 12 months contract then you are committing to that for 12 months. You can’t act butthurt when debt collectors come.

If you sign up to something and you do not receive the service that you have signed up for, THEY are breaking their contract they have made with you. That gives you the right to cancel. If you were subscribed to Sky and not receiving the correct signal or channels, you can give them a chance to put it right. If they fail to do so, you can end the contract. Would you shut up and still pay if you had no response to your complaint that you were not receiving what you signed up for? Because, you know, 12 months is 12 months ... Or would you act "butthurt" and complain and tell them to get fucked?

The nature of his coaching (online) at a distance means that he cannot hold you legally to a 12 month contract. If you are not in receipt of his "content" or do not have access to his app, he cannot charge you. He can only withdraw your access to his services as it is distance selling and coaching. This is why a lot of companies such as SW etc, insist on a 3 month payment upfront, then a rolling contract. I'm pretty confident what he is doing is illegal, not to mention harsh and immoral.

If you sign up to a yearly gym membership, that gym has to take out a years insurance to cover you, you are physically present in that building, actively using the services. They pay to maintain the wear and tear on the building that you contribute to. You go in and physically sign a contract with them that is personal to you. Ashbourne Management have been taken to court in the past for dodgy gym contracts and fined. He is using a gym contract from these people, with a few tweaks. I'm pretty sure most people including myself, wouldn't dream of not paying for a legit contract they have signed up for. His quite frankly, is a load of old bollocks and he knows it. It's not just people not wanting to pay as you put it, he's given people good reason not to pay it.