she shouldve put Bradley Cooper's ala Star is Born vocals on it
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The biggest piece of evidence... Taylor is describing things that make "them, them" in Miss Americana while recording Me with Brendan.
For Brendan, she describes him as "emo kid, theatre."
For herself, she says: "dancers, cats, gay pride, people in country-western boots, just everything that makes me, me."
I am not sure why a straight person would say that "gay pride" makes them, them... like, that would make zero sense.
From 2.30.
You can also see it in the documentary on Netflix, this isn't edited.
For Brendan, she describes him as "emo kid, theatre."
For herself, she says: "dancers, cats, gay pride, people in country-western boots, just everything that makes me, me."
I am not sure why a straight person would say that "gay pride" makes them, them... like, that would make zero sense.
From 2.30.
You can also see it in the documentary on Netflix, this isn't edited.
Because she suddenly became politically conscious and had to promote her gay rights single... lol.
That being said, I do believe Swiftgron and Kaylor were real, but they're both long over now. Karlie has married into the Trumps and is besties with Scooter, Taylor must absolutely dislike her guts lmao. And Dianna and her haven't publicly communicated in years, even tho I think Dianna posted about Cardigan somewhere.
Maybe Joe and her are pure PR, or maybe she's just realized how to utilize your relationship to promote your work while keeping a maximum of privacy. But calling him a beard because of two rumoured relationships with women Taylor may have had in the past is a bit much. It's giving me bisexual erasure
The gay rumours go way back to early in her career and high school. She is rumoured to have had a relationship with Emily Poe (who she wrote Breathe about, Colbie Caillat confirmed that) one of her early band members, and another called Liz Huett(I think was her name).Because she suddenly became politically conscious and had to promote her gay rights single... lol.
That being said, I do believe Swiftgron and Kaylor were real, but they're both long over now. Karlie has married into the Trumps and is besties with Scooter, Taylor must absolutely dislike her guts lmao. And Dianna and her haven't publicly communicated in years, even tho I think Dianna posted about Cardigan somewhere.
Maybe Joe and her are pure PR, or maybe she's just realized how to utilize your relationship to promote your work while keeping a maximum of privacy. But calling him a beard because of two rumoured relationships with women Taylor may have had in the past is a bit much. It's giving me bisexual erasure
Those are two high profile rumoured "relationships." There are screengrab of comments from her personal Myspace page which certainly point to her at least being bi. There are plenty of blinds about Joe being a beard and being on Grinder (around 2017). The same websites which shared blinds about Marilyn Manson, Caitlin Jenner, Weinstein, etc.
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I seem to remember a very specific article when she was first getting famous that described Emily as her partner. It stuck out at the time because I remember thinking "you don't see many openly gay country singers".
She also ran (runs?) her own Tumblr page, and there are screenshots showing that she followed a fair amount of lesbian erotica, iirc.
She also ran (runs?) her own Tumblr page, and there are screenshots showing that she followed a fair amount of lesbian erotica, iirc.
Yep! She got caught "liking" a lesbian porn gif a few years back (on a Kaylor Tumblr I think) . She also likes a load of posts in which her songs / lyrics are associated or analyzed in a gay way. Karlie also used to follow a load of Kaylor accounts on IG and twitter as did her sister and father. Karlie just a couple of months ago was seen viewing stories on Kaylor instagram accounts. It is also very interesting.
And yes, Diana was seen listening to Cardigan on Spotify. It is thought her marriage was a "lavender" marriage. They are now separated. She was apparently with her friend Mollie for a few years.
Taylor used to upload vlogs to her youtube channel many moons ago. This is a video she made for Emily Poe before she was "fired." That is the original song Taylor used for the video too.
Right, I forgot about the rumours (which do sound realistic) with her former band members. And I agree that the myspace posts are very telling lol.
Now idk about Joe being on Grindr. With how many bi, gay and closeted men there are in Hollywood I highly doubt he'd have to use the most basic dating app out there. Plus I think they were already dating in 2017? There's no way Taylor and her publicist would let her boyfriend expose himself like that. Can you say which blind item site it is though? I'm intrigued lol
It was eiher CDAN or Blind Gossip. They also had one saying that at the beginning of them dating he was still "seeing" men in London and better get his tit together basically as Taylor wasn't happy.
Does anyone have a link to the myspace posts?
One was a message to a girl on Myspace (the original source was around YEARS ago but I can't find it now).
There are also some interesting photos of Joe with men from his personal Facebook page. They used to be easy to find on Google/Facebook/Twitter but got removed some time last year.
There are also some interesting photos of Joe with men from his personal Facebook page. They used to be easy to find on Google/Facebook/Twitter but got removed some time last year.
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That DM looks like a copy and paste job and I don't really understand all of the posts haha. Would love to see the Joe photos though............
Her MySpace posts had some stupid weirdly sexual postings to friends that everyone was doing at the time— I’m about Taylor’s age and most teenage girls’ pages had posts like that. It’s just cringey but not a hint at hidden teenage lesbianism imo.
The rumours and conspiracies about Dianna and Karlie were kinda funny at first, but tbh after all that’s gone down in the world recently I am kind of over conspiracies and these elaborate ‘here’s the proof!‘ screengrabs and essays on all the ~signs~ and the hints Taylor supposedly drops and what the big bad PR are trying to hide. Sorry, it just seems so wrong now and frankly... it’s stupid. Especially when you see how easy it is to manipulate with hand picked quotes and whatnot. For example, the quote from the Miss Americana documentary that a poster used above, well if you watch the video it’s not entirely accurate and you can even tell the video itself edits what Taylor says for the sake of flow. It’s just about making people feel they’ve spotted the TRUTH and are on some weird treasure hunt to expose, what exactly. They want so badly to believe that big Powers (PR in this case) are keeping the truth from the masses and they have proof.
As for Joe, I can hardly think of one young male celebrity who hasn’t had gay rumours. It’s tired.
If you actually care about queer visibility there are plenty of out celebs who you can support, Taylor has said clearly she is straight. Find another hobby.
The rumours and conspiracies about Dianna and Karlie were kinda funny at first, but tbh after all that’s gone down in the world recently I am kind of over conspiracies and these elaborate ‘here’s the proof!‘ screengrabs and essays on all the ~signs~ and the hints Taylor supposedly drops and what the big bad PR are trying to hide. Sorry, it just seems so wrong now and frankly... it’s stupid. Especially when you see how easy it is to manipulate with hand picked quotes and whatnot. For example, the quote from the Miss Americana documentary that a poster used above, well if you watch the video it’s not entirely accurate and you can even tell the video itself edits what Taylor says for the sake of flow. It’s just about making people feel they’ve spotted the TRUTH and are on some weird treasure hunt to expose, what exactly. They want so badly to believe that big Powers (PR in this case) are keeping the truth from the masses and they have proof.
As for Joe, I can hardly think of one young male celebrity who hasn’t had gay rumours. It’s tired.
If you actually care about queer visibility there are plenty of out celebs who you can support, Taylor has said clearly she is straight. Find another hobby.
I will try and find them.
Do you mean that the Youtube uploader edited the video or the documentary maker? As that is how it is in the documentary.
I don't think it is far fetched at all but each to their own.
The documentary— you can see the cuts so that the ‘list’ of things TS wanted went smoothly and could coincide with the images. To then take that list she was rattling off (Which really became just her excitedly listing big and bold things that speak to individuality and her new identity for the album which included gay advocacy), and then twist it by making it a quote where Taylor said these things describe her? It’s disingenuous. I don’t know what high people get from thinking they spotted something in these random scraps, but look elsewhere. This girl is in a long term relationship with a man. This need people have to weave together bits of nothing to create a new reality for themselves in which they have an ‘in’, is so weird.
She said "cats, country western, gay pride. Things that make me, me."
I am not misquoting. She literally says that.
This is the "gorgeous" man (left) she apparently fell for at the Met Gala
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I never liked reputation at all, and never chose to listen to it. But I watched the tour on netflix recently and it was so good! Definitely found myself listening to it a bit more since.
Btw, the possibly closeted, either bisexual or gay thing came up from someone else and another asked for some "evidence" and I presented it. Is she with Joe? Likely. It's a long time to fake a relationship. Is she bearding? Maybe.
I do think she and Karlie had a thing but Karlie is married now and has a baby on the way.
Anyway. I saw speculation that she may release the re-recording of Love Story for Valentine's day. I hope she does! I am really excited about the re-recordings. Once they are out, do you think you'll listen to the original versions or new ones?
I do think she and Karlie had a thing but Karlie is married now and has a baby on the way.
Anyway. I saw speculation that she may release the re-recording of Love Story for Valentine's day. I hope she does! I am really excited about the re-recordings. Once they are out, do you think you'll listen to the original versions or new ones?
It isn't my favourite. I think it aged quite fast.
I've never been to see her live, would love to! So reputation on netflix is the closest I've been so far 
it made me like the album more than I did before anyway.
it made me like the album more than I did before anyway.I mean, Taylor herself looked like this... love really must be blindShe said "cats, country western, gay pride. Things that make me, me."
I am not misquoting. She literally says that.
This is the "gorgeous" man (left) she apparently fell for at the Met Gala
I hope so too, it would be such a brilliant business move as well! I never really listened to her debut album and Fearless at all tbh (SN and Red a bit more, but only became a fan with 1989) because country isn't really my thing and I think she could have benefitted from some vocal lessons before recording them. So I'm really excited to see for myself if I will like them this time around. For the albums that I regularly listen to I'll probably ditch the original for the re-recordings. Can't stand the thought of putting money into that capitalist manchild's pocket.
I hope she doesn't record exact copies of the originals tho. She had some really great arrangements for her concerts that I hope she incorporates, e.g. the drums in Wildest Dreams or the guitar in the second verse of LWYMMD.
I can't imagine what the rollout for the re-recordings is going to be like. What is the album art going to look like, will there be physical albums... Surely she won't re-record her music videos, but I wonder if she might make some underrated songs singles in the second round.
I hope she does the drum outro for King of My Heart that she used on the Rep tour. It was amazing.I mean, Taylor herself looked like this... love really must be blind
I hope so too, it would be such a brilliant business move as well! I never really listened to her debut album and Fearless at all tbh (SN and Red a bit more, but only became a fan with 1989) because country isn't really my thing and I think she could have benefitted from some vocal lessons before recording them. So I'm really excited to see for myself if I will like them this time around. For the albums that I regularly listen to I'll probably ditch the original for the re-recordings. Can't stand the thought of putting money into that capitalist manchild's pocket.
I hope she doesn't record exact copies of the originals tho. She had some really great arrangements for her concerts that I hope she incorporates, e.g. the drums in Wildest Dreams or the guitar in the second verse of LWYMMD.
I can't imagine what the rollout for the re-recordings is going to be like. What is the album art going to look like, will there be physical albums... Surely she won't re-record her music videos, but I wonder if she might make some underrated songs singles in the second round.
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