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nissigossips
Well-known member
Warning: big rant incoming.
But I am SO FED UP of studytubers not declaring their ads properly. They keep making the declaration smaller and smaller.
FYI the ASA regulations in the UK say you must know something is an ad before you click on it, so either have it clearly in the thumbnail or title or both.
Does this look clear to you???
In fact, let's make it a fun game: spot the "AD"
They make SO MUCH MONEY off these sponsorships. The least they can do is stop misleading people. And its intentional. You can tell by how they keep making it smaller and smaller, seeing what they can get away with...
But I am SO FED UP of studytubers not declaring their ads properly. They keep making the declaration smaller and smaller.
FYI the ASA regulations in the UK say you must know something is an ad before you click on it, so either have it clearly in the thumbnail or title or both.
Does this look clear to you???
In fact, let's make it a fun game: spot the "AD"
They make SO MUCH MONEY off these sponsorships. The least they can do is stop misleading people. And its intentional. You can tell by how they keep making it smaller and smaller, seeing what they can get away with...
nemidiso
Well-known member
such an interesting topic, thanks for that!
I loved studtubers (unjaded jade and ruby granger from the ones you mentioned) years ago as they inspire and motivated me to do my own work. now - a bit later and with one or two therapy sessions I see things little bit different. I really believe that these youtube/girls are doing it because they have fun and like to inspire people but for me I find it more problematic from my point of view now.
- we are living in a society where the quality and worth of a person is measured by productivity and success. being "so tired" and "stressed out" because you are "busy" or "worked so much" is connotated with proud and success and positive things by now. late capitalism, efficience, productivity - you are what you achieve. And I struggled A LOT with this. I couldn't "just rest" without feeling guilty because I thought I have to do and achieve things to become worthy and be proud of myself. and studytubers are not to blame because of my problem but I think the success of them is a symptom of this problem. I know a lot of people in my environment who have the guilty and shameful feeling that "everyone around them are SO successful and are doing so much more" so they feel less, little, lazy or worthless (in some degree) and therefore guilty.
- on another point. with some of these studytubers I have the feeling that they aren't doing it any more because they really have to do it for school/uni/college/whatever and have fun with it, but because for its sake. so they can push another extreme video like "STUDY FOR ME 14 HOURS STRAIGHT" or "reading 200books in one year!" - and this has nothing to do with my ideal of having fun by learning something, motivation or interest in the content/subject/topic/language but with pushing their ego because they want to be seen as the extreme diligent, smart and disciplined ones. what a bummer.
these are my two cents for now. - sorry for my english, I had to give my opinion as fast as I could
I loved studtubers (unjaded jade and ruby granger from the ones you mentioned) years ago as they inspire and motivated me to do my own work. now - a bit later and with one or two therapy sessions I see things little bit different. I really believe that these youtube/girls are doing it because they have fun and like to inspire people but for me I find it more problematic from my point of view now.
- we are living in a society where the quality and worth of a person is measured by productivity and success. being "so tired" and "stressed out" because you are "busy" or "worked so much" is connotated with proud and success and positive things by now. late capitalism, efficience, productivity - you are what you achieve. And I struggled A LOT with this. I couldn't "just rest" without feeling guilty because I thought I have to do and achieve things to become worthy and be proud of myself. and studytubers are not to blame because of my problem but I think the success of them is a symptom of this problem. I know a lot of people in my environment who have the guilty and shameful feeling that "everyone around them are SO successful and are doing so much more" so they feel less, little, lazy or worthless (in some degree) and therefore guilty.
- on another point. with some of these studytubers I have the feeling that they aren't doing it any more because they really have to do it for school/uni/college/whatever and have fun with it, but because for its sake. so they can push another extreme video like "STUDY FOR ME 14 HOURS STRAIGHT" or "reading 200books in one year!" - and this has nothing to do with my ideal of having fun by learning something, motivation or interest in the content/subject/topic/language but with pushing their ego because they want to be seen as the extreme diligent, smart and disciplined ones. what a bummer.
these are my two cents for now. - sorry for my english, I had to give my opinion as fast as I could
lemonlime
VIP Member
I used to enjoy study content when it used to be on Tumblr, just photos and tips and general stationery adoration on my part. After it became this productivity-porn where content creators stroke their own egos while humble-bragging about how many hours they have studied right before they reassure their viewers that 'grades and university don't mean everything'... Please. It turns my stomach.
Just admit that you love watching yourself be "productive" in sped up video clips and you just want the sponsorships. There is no need to dress the studytube content as if it's anything other than a regular influencer content nowadays. I'm past my school years although I was doing a second degree a few years back, and watching this stuff helped me enjoy the dull memorising process a bit more. I am all for romanticising ordinary things to make them a bit more fun for yourself but I cannot and will not sit and watch people who pretend to be inspirational and unique while they milk the cash cow that is their channel with that supposedly unassuming smile on their face.
I still love looking at nice stationery and there are a couple studytubers I enjoy watching but the rest get on my nerves with their entitlement, lies and disingenuity. I don't care if they study 18 hours a day or if they think they're inspiring and woke by passing some generic comment about the world's issues. They are just in it for the validation and money now and it's really grating that they think they are above those who don't make study related content. Jade is the absolute worst.
Just admit that you love watching yourself be "productive" in sped up video clips and you just want the sponsorships. There is no need to dress the studytube content as if it's anything other than a regular influencer content nowadays. I'm past my school years although I was doing a second degree a few years back, and watching this stuff helped me enjoy the dull memorising process a bit more. I am all for romanticising ordinary things to make them a bit more fun for yourself but I cannot and will not sit and watch people who pretend to be inspirational and unique while they milk the cash cow that is their channel with that supposedly unassuming smile on their face.
I still love looking at nice stationery and there are a couple studytubers I enjoy watching but the rest get on my nerves with their entitlement, lies and disingenuity. I don't care if they study 18 hours a day or if they think they're inspiring and woke by passing some generic comment about the world's issues. They are just in it for the validation and money now and it's really grating that they think they are above those who don't make study related content. Jade is the absolute worst.
hollowcrown
Chatty Member
For the most part I like Porritt because he seems very normal but his devolution into standard entrepeneur/crypto/money making content has put me off him recently.
That video posted is incredibly arrogant. He might be good and optimised at studying in languages and law and a bit of codying but that does not show at all how he would perform at maths or science. Secondly it's extremely rich from a man who seems to be a study/chill focused guy and does not appear to have any artistic hobbies. Try getting good at the guitar or doing some art and then come back with that same attitude. That shit is challenging and requires hard work.
Another nail in the coffin is his recent video on how much money he " really " earns as a lawyer in London. So the dude is on £48k which is a pretty good wage for a starting job in London and yeah London is expensive but he's living with a partner which can always help your money go a bit further. So he has this good wage and then accounts for the extra hours he does as a lawyer so start taking off money. Fair enough. Then starts taking off money for time spent commuting etc which okay I guess it's sort of fair. Then he starts taking off money for his rent, food that he buys, bills and contracts and he's like oh it's pretty close to minimum hourly wage now! And it's like bro...that's not what you "really" earn like those are norma expenditures you can't put your true wage as close to minimum wage after taking off ALL YOUR LIVING EXPENSES. Plus that is not even accounting your Youtube revenue or sponsorships which are going to cover some of your bills and rent. It's so insulting to people actually on minimum wage.
I hate this devolution into techbros and investing and money and self-help that is happening to so many study Youtubers.
emmer_moans
VIP Member
They have done this in a very tone deaf manner by inserting themselves into it, by referring back to their experiences. Same as Jack Edwards. They should have said “ we are angry for you, here are links to petitions, and please be strong!” They should have left it at that and maybe retweet’s useful links, but no, they had to centre themselves in it, and define the situation in relation to their experience.Two interesting general StudyTube things:
Number one, this tweet
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Number two, this article
‘Studytube’: From A*s to Toxic Productivity
Studytube: the place where students from GCSE to their masters degree share tips, tricks, routines and home truths about grades, over achieving and revision. The place where countless students will…thehysteriacollective.com
I think whether studytubers are toxic or inspiring is a very personal question although sometimes I have my doubts. For me, the answer is definitely toxic (with a couple exceptions). I've become hooked on their lives in a negative way but before I attempt to completely distance myself from the community, I thought I would toss my thoughts and reflections into the aether on this (probably dead?) thread. This is the first thing I have ever written and posted publicly on the internet and even though I am anonymous, I find it absolutely terrifying so I definitely have respect and empathy for people that choose to post their life on the internet (albeit in a curated and edited form!). I really do not intend any hate through this post and have tried to write it as if the study tubers who I might mention will read it. This isn't some snarky comment intended to say behind someone's back but something I would genuinely say to their face if I had the opportunity. It's tricky to raise this issue since you are essentially criticising someone's life but I feel if you are given the title of "influencer", something I find extremely problematic in the study community on youtube and beyond, what you do must be constantly scrutinised.
I never encountered the world of youtube until I was in year 11 studying for my GCSEs and even then I only used it for purely academic purposes (e.g. videos from teachers on how to analyse a poem etc.). When I started sixth form, I revisited my trusty friend (youtube) for some academic help yet unfortunately fell prey to the youtube algorithms recommended page. It knew I just completed my GCSEs and recommended a video of Unjaded jade opening her GCSE results. Why was this something I thought it would be worthwhile to watch? I don't know. The algorithm had penetrated my brain. It knew me better than I knew myself. I clicked and from then on I was hooked and discovered more and more studytubers.
On one hand, I think criticisms of the personalities of study tubers are a little unfair. Ruby Granger's borderline obsessive desire to study rather than socialise, Unjaded Jade's carpe diem mentality and overuse of the word spontaneity, Holly Gabrielle's obsession with food and exercise can all be interpreted in a positive and negative way. We are all unique. (If I were a successful youtuber, I am sure there would be much to criticise about my life!) On the other hand, they are essentially constructing a brand around their personality (which I feel like has quite a lot of parallels with a cult - i.e. the veneration of an individual - not saying the channels are cults, just one way of thinking about it if some parallels are drawn - instead of offering our money, we are offering our time in exchange for a life-changing philosophy hmmm...). The whole “impressionable teen” danger seems to be raised quite a bit in this forums but is is extremely important. These teens may pour praise into the comment section but is this inspirational candy sustainable in the long term? Books should change lives, not a teen who has edited their life on youtube. Even if we consciously tell ourselves that ruby does not study 15 hours per day, we may subconsciously feel differently. These “influencers”may be influencing us in subconscious ways. I'll admit they made me feel like an inadequate student some times which is ridiculous in retrospect. I was shocked when Jade and Ruby got rejected from Oxford and I, although studying significantly less then them, got into Cambridge. It was my first realisation that I needed to much more critically assess how they portrayed their lives in order to sift out what would make me feel bad and what could motivate although admittingly even recently Jade’s comments about having deep 2am chats with her friends all the time stress me out! Am I doing something wrong? I have friends, we have conversations but are they deep chats? Ahhhhh!!! Obviously if she were to read this she would say that it isn't a requirement but just one example and people can express their friendship in different ways but the way she presents her life nonetheless has this effect subconsciously. Jade seems like a great, intelligent person but one thing I could never understand is her declaring talks “deep” and experiences “life changing” when they are barely even days old. I would find it so awkward claiming these things. I would never be able to declare an instagram that my captions are meaningful (not that I post on instagram). She may see herself as a beacon of meaning in the sea of social media but that just comes across as a little self righteous. I can’t help but feel that if she got accepted to Oxford she would have acted like she never expected it and the whole thing was the most spontaneous thing in the world yet she evidently couldn’t imagine herself going to Bristol. That said, to be successful risks must be taken and that might include confidence coming across as self-righteous and pretentious to some people.
The impressionable teenager is at the mercy of media in all its forms yet “influencers” are perhaps the most dangerous. What confuses me the most about the studytube community is that it operates in a grey zone between being educational and being entertainment. Entertainment channels can be trash (or not!) but at least they are not pretending to be anything else. I feel like studytube channels can often pretend to be something they are not. The majority of study with me videos are not in real time and are inherently contradictory. You can’t study “with” the person. Is this the only way our brains can comprehend the value of learning? I've always motivated myself by focussing on the content of what I am doing and finding intrinsic motivation even before I knew what youtube was. Although perhaps if you're world is one of tiktoks, gifs and instagram posts, the visual is the only way to remind the brain of the importance of studying! However, one smaller channel that I feel has a much clearer purpose is Elena Handtrack. I find her videos get right to the point and actually present some new and unique ideas (she also has loads of real-times study videos). Her aesthetic is also very nice! Perhaps I find her especially useful because I go to the same university as her and am curious to see how she manages similar struggles. However, I don't think it it necessary for me to satiate that curiosity, since it is always possible to chat with friends about their methods of coping and study hacks!!
Studytubers are making money and gaining a following that will certainly help them in any entrepreneurial pursuits so it is important to ask, especially as many of them are growing up and their channels are changing and they may be seeing the link between their career and their channel all the more clearly, what is in it for the viewer? What is being offered apart from a shortened attention span and retina damage? I feel like Ibz Mo provides a great amount of value in encouraging access of student from low socioeconomic and under-represented backgrounds to Cambridge University, a very noble cause in my opinion! Although I agree with a lot of Unjaded jade's core ideas with regards to self-love and positivity I can see how it can be a little annoying and vague and frustrating. I'm not really sure what she is offering anymore. Inspiration can be gained from stories, biographies, friends... (although even as I am writing this I am doubting that its fair to say that since a lot of people may not have access to books or may have abusive friends so I guess this really only applies to me.) Positivity can often be the guise for lots of selfies on instagram with motivational quotes. People may claim this to be a life-changing moment for them in the comments and re-emphasise how much they love the the influencer but doesn’t that just go straight to their head and give their fan a shot of inspirational sugar? It may taste great but the low is coming.
Evidently I have mixed feelings, but, like I said at the beginning, I can only conclude that the community has had a negative impact on me. I wouldn't cackle with joy if the studytube community disappeared. There is some value there. We can't idealise the good ol' days when children weren't hooked on youtube. A lot of people look down on social media and youtube and me being that person who just read books (side note - I thought it was a bit funny that youtube sucked me away my time and my passion for reading only to spit out videos about the value of reading, such as Jade's recently!) and didn't have social media for the longest time I can't help but feel similar but perhaps humanity isn't doomed from decreasing attention spans and a cult-like obsession with a certain personality who is not offering anything tangible apart from life-advice when they are too inexperienced to offer it in order to inflict ads and expensive merch on their viewers. Any change in society will have a backlash. Perhaps the “inspiration” is not just like sugar, sweet, addictive and short-lasting. Perhaps inexperience lends "relatability" value. Perhaps benefits can be reaped, as there are definitely are some. It's not worth it for me personally at this time in my life when discovering what others are up, feeding a natural human curiosity, is distracting me from finding my purpose. Apologies for the waffling response and congratulations for making it to the end. Even if no one reads this I am hoping I can find some sort of closure with the studytube community so that I can end my toxic relationship, although perhaps that relationship is with youtube’s algorithm or even my own jealousy! Is it possible to separate the good form the bad? Perhaps one day I will leverage my career through social media and post pictures of myself with motivational quotes for exposure or to promote a certain philosophy in life and chuckle over the fact I wrote this anonymous waffly post that nobody read. Who knows? We are all just stumbling around in the dark at the end of the day.
I never encountered the world of youtube until I was in year 11 studying for my GCSEs and even then I only used it for purely academic purposes (e.g. videos from teachers on how to analyse a poem etc.). When I started sixth form, I revisited my trusty friend (youtube) for some academic help yet unfortunately fell prey to the youtube algorithms recommended page. It knew I just completed my GCSEs and recommended a video of Unjaded jade opening her GCSE results. Why was this something I thought it would be worthwhile to watch? I don't know. The algorithm had penetrated my brain. It knew me better than I knew myself. I clicked and from then on I was hooked and discovered more and more studytubers.
On one hand, I think criticisms of the personalities of study tubers are a little unfair. Ruby Granger's borderline obsessive desire to study rather than socialise, Unjaded Jade's carpe diem mentality and overuse of the word spontaneity, Holly Gabrielle's obsession with food and exercise can all be interpreted in a positive and negative way. We are all unique. (If I were a successful youtuber, I am sure there would be much to criticise about my life!) On the other hand, they are essentially constructing a brand around their personality (which I feel like has quite a lot of parallels with a cult - i.e. the veneration of an individual - not saying the channels are cults, just one way of thinking about it if some parallels are drawn - instead of offering our money, we are offering our time in exchange for a life-changing philosophy hmmm...). The whole “impressionable teen” danger seems to be raised quite a bit in this forums but is is extremely important. These teens may pour praise into the comment section but is this inspirational candy sustainable in the long term? Books should change lives, not a teen who has edited their life on youtube. Even if we consciously tell ourselves that ruby does not study 15 hours per day, we may subconsciously feel differently. These “influencers”may be influencing us in subconscious ways. I'll admit they made me feel like an inadequate student some times which is ridiculous in retrospect. I was shocked when Jade and Ruby got rejected from Oxford and I, although studying significantly less then them, got into Cambridge. It was my first realisation that I needed to much more critically assess how they portrayed their lives in order to sift out what would make me feel bad and what could motivate although admittingly even recently Jade’s comments about having deep 2am chats with her friends all the time stress me out! Am I doing something wrong? I have friends, we have conversations but are they deep chats? Ahhhhh!!! Obviously if she were to read this she would say that it isn't a requirement but just one example and people can express their friendship in different ways but the way she presents her life nonetheless has this effect subconsciously. Jade seems like a great, intelligent person but one thing I could never understand is her declaring talks “deep” and experiences “life changing” when they are barely even days old. I would find it so awkward claiming these things. I would never be able to declare an instagram that my captions are meaningful (not that I post on instagram). She may see herself as a beacon of meaning in the sea of social media but that just comes across as a little self righteous. I can’t help but feel that if she got accepted to Oxford she would have acted like she never expected it and the whole thing was the most spontaneous thing in the world yet she evidently couldn’t imagine herself going to Bristol. That said, to be successful risks must be taken and that might include confidence coming across as self-righteous and pretentious to some people.
The impressionable teenager is at the mercy of media in all its forms yet “influencers” are perhaps the most dangerous. What confuses me the most about the studytube community is that it operates in a grey zone between being educational and being entertainment. Entertainment channels can be trash (or not!) but at least they are not pretending to be anything else. I feel like studytube channels can often pretend to be something they are not. The majority of study with me videos are not in real time and are inherently contradictory. You can’t study “with” the person. Is this the only way our brains can comprehend the value of learning? I've always motivated myself by focussing on the content of what I am doing and finding intrinsic motivation even before I knew what youtube was. Although perhaps if you're world is one of tiktoks, gifs and instagram posts, the visual is the only way to remind the brain of the importance of studying! However, one smaller channel that I feel has a much clearer purpose is Elena Handtrack. I find her videos get right to the point and actually present some new and unique ideas (she also has loads of real-times study videos). Her aesthetic is also very nice! Perhaps I find her especially useful because I go to the same university as her and am curious to see how she manages similar struggles. However, I don't think it it necessary for me to satiate that curiosity, since it is always possible to chat with friends about their methods of coping and study hacks!!
Studytubers are making money and gaining a following that will certainly help them in any entrepreneurial pursuits so it is important to ask, especially as many of them are growing up and their channels are changing and they may be seeing the link between their career and their channel all the more clearly, what is in it for the viewer? What is being offered apart from a shortened attention span and retina damage? I feel like Ibz Mo provides a great amount of value in encouraging access of student from low socioeconomic and under-represented backgrounds to Cambridge University, a very noble cause in my opinion! Although I agree with a lot of Unjaded jade's core ideas with regards to self-love and positivity I can see how it can be a little annoying and vague and frustrating. I'm not really sure what she is offering anymore. Inspiration can be gained from stories, biographies, friends... (although even as I am writing this I am doubting that its fair to say that since a lot of people may not have access to books or may have abusive friends so I guess this really only applies to me.) Positivity can often be the guise for lots of selfies on instagram with motivational quotes. People may claim this to be a life-changing moment for them in the comments and re-emphasise how much they love the the influencer but doesn’t that just go straight to their head and give their fan a shot of inspirational sugar? It may taste great but the low is coming.
Evidently I have mixed feelings, but, like I said at the beginning, I can only conclude that the community has had a negative impact on me. I wouldn't cackle with joy if the studytube community disappeared. There is some value there. We can't idealise the good ol' days when children weren't hooked on youtube. A lot of people look down on social media and youtube and me being that person who just read books (side note - I thought it was a bit funny that youtube sucked me away my time and my passion for reading only to spit out videos about the value of reading, such as Jade's recently!) and didn't have social media for the longest time I can't help but feel similar but perhaps humanity isn't doomed from decreasing attention spans and a cult-like obsession with a certain personality who is not offering anything tangible apart from life-advice when they are too inexperienced to offer it in order to inflict ads and expensive merch on their viewers. Any change in society will have a backlash. Perhaps the “inspiration” is not just like sugar, sweet, addictive and short-lasting. Perhaps inexperience lends "relatability" value. Perhaps benefits can be reaped, as there are definitely are some. It's not worth it for me personally at this time in my life when discovering what others are up, feeding a natural human curiosity, is distracting me from finding my purpose. Apologies for the waffling response and congratulations for making it to the end. Even if no one reads this I am hoping I can find some sort of closure with the studytube community so that I can end my toxic relationship, although perhaps that relationship is with youtube’s algorithm or even my own jealousy! Is it possible to separate the good form the bad? Perhaps one day I will leverage my career through social media and post pictures of myself with motivational quotes for exposure or to promote a certain philosophy in life and chuckle over the fact I wrote this anonymous waffly post that nobody read. Who knows? We are all just stumbling around in the dark at the end of the day.
prinnygrace
VIP Member
I started watching during my A Levels (a good few years ago now, Eve was doing GCSEs so there wasn’t that many studytubers about). It only took a few months to find it problematic when I was comparing how much work I got done in a day to them. I was revising for a few hours, for arguably more important exams to get into uni, whilst they were doing 12 hour days.
elizabethperroni
Member
Hi everyone.
Thought a thread should be started for study tubers in general.
I used to be a fan of them (eve bennett, unjaded jade, ruby granger, holly g) but i found that eventually they were massively stressing me out and there were some 'problematic' aspects of their channels.
Please share your opinions!!!
(I'm quite new to this website as you can probably tell, i left GG as the mods drove me crazy haha)
Thought a thread should be started for study tubers in general.
I used to be a fan of them (eve bennett, unjaded jade, ruby granger, holly g) but i found that eventually they were massively stressing me out and there were some 'problematic' aspects of their channels.
Please share your opinions!!!
(I'm quite new to this website as you can probably tell, i left GG as the mods drove me crazy haha)
Magallanes
Active member
i don't know if any of you have seen this, but liam porritt (for those who are not familiar with the name, he's a cambridge graduate in languages, i believe he studied spanish and french if i'm not mistaken(?), then took the PGDL and is currently a solicitor in a london firm)
so well, this guy posted a video with this title: (see attachment number 1)
which, okay, i get it. you went to cambridge, you succeeded into finding a job, now you're also a part-time youtuber and receive some extra income from that source, you have a beautiful girlfriend and you exercise 3 times a week...but, really? "how i get good at anything"? he surely didn't have to flex that hard am i right?
i think he didn't realise the privilege he had when he had the chance to attend one of the best universities in the world, how he was accepted in a graduate scheme for law, and finally, how he got the job of his dreams. it's certainly something he has earned from his hard work, i'm sure about that, but it is also a mixture of luck and privilege. he's a straight white man, who comes from a middle class family, who never experienced oppression. and, taking a look at his old videos, he never struggled with mental health disorders or other sorts of obstacles or barriers during his formative years, so he's certainly in a very lucky position
i'm assuming he received a quite strong backlash with that thumbnail, so he switched it to the second one (see attachment #2)
sorry for the long rant, i know probably this guy's intentions weren't mean, but it's a bit tone deaf to not acknowledge your privilege and think everyone can succeed as far as you do with just a bit of effort and consistency
so well, this guy posted a video with this title: (see attachment number 1)
which, okay, i get it. you went to cambridge, you succeeded into finding a job, now you're also a part-time youtuber and receive some extra income from that source, you have a beautiful girlfriend and you exercise 3 times a week...but, really? "how i get good at anything"? he surely didn't have to flex that hard am i right?
i think he didn't realise the privilege he had when he had the chance to attend one of the best universities in the world, how he was accepted in a graduate scheme for law, and finally, how he got the job of his dreams. it's certainly something he has earned from his hard work, i'm sure about that, but it is also a mixture of luck and privilege. he's a straight white man, who comes from a middle class family, who never experienced oppression. and, taking a look at his old videos, he never struggled with mental health disorders or other sorts of obstacles or barriers during his formative years, so he's certainly in a very lucky position
i'm assuming he received a quite strong backlash with that thumbnail, so he switched it to the second one (see attachment #2)
sorry for the long rant, i know probably this guy's intentions weren't mean, but it's a bit tone deaf to not acknowledge your privilege and think everyone can succeed as far as you do with just a bit of effort and consistency
Attachments
Do they all have the same management or something? Just wondering why the style of ‘AD’ is identical for Jade and Jack’s thumbnails.
They should put it in the title like everyone else. These studytubers will be the first to say how they want to be authentic and ‘real’ to their followers, yet for some reason are so cagey and insecure about declaring when something is an advert.
prinnygrace
VIP Member
I graduated in July 2019. Please please don’t think the way Ruby shows uni is the “norm”. Yes, there’s a lot of work to be done but I did it with friends! We booked rooms in the library and had study sessions together and would all bring food and have a good time whilst getting our work done. I probably did more work at A Level than I did at uni. Uni is about the experience and Ruby definitely doesn’t portray what that experience is for most people. Please don’t let her taint your views!
(I’m sure there are others that do uni how Ruby is, but the vast majority dont)
khkjhhjhjj
New member
i regret getting into studytubers. it's a toxic mentality of studying 12 hours a day which really rubbed off the wrong way. like what you guys mentioned here, they rely a lot on sponsorships and ads, and do fuck all to help actual struggling students. some studytubers are very good and mean well. but the rest are privileged and 'perfect' studious kids who don't need part time jobs, don't come from dysfunctional families, etc. i'm not even from the uk, but i take a similar exam (my country's modified cambridge A levels). of course it's not their fault, but it becomes really demoralizing to see countless videos on my feed about studying 24/7. so i unsubscribed to them long ago. productivity youtubers are also full of the same shit.
KawaiiSloth
Chatty Member
Tbh I think her decision to study nutrition is highly influenced by her obsession with food (a common sympton of being malnourished/restricting food for so long).
I used to enjoy Jade but ever since her gap year and first year at Minerva she’s come off as more and more cringey and fake to me and is no longer relatable. The fact that she’s paying so much for what is basically an online university and where the accommodations are tiny and they get dumped in a new city every few months is a major red flag for me but if she really enjoys it, good for her I suppose.
Ruby seems to value quantity over quality, everything has to come down to a number with her, ‘Study with me for x hours’, ‘I read x books in x hours’, I find that mentality especially toxic for her younger, impressionable viewers who feel that they need to do as much work as she does and be “productive” at every hour of the day down to brushing their teeth. I do find some of her videos quite cosy and enjoyable to watch but she seems kind of silly and detached from the world a lot of the time (and is very clearly privileged).
Holly Gabrielle is really sweet but I don’t think she’s fully over her eating disorder and her obsession with fitness and her need to always be working on something and going on runs, even when on holiday, is concerning to me. Eve I have mixed feelings about, mostly she annoys me and comes off as rather entitled but I do find her more watchable and honest than Jade or Ruby. Jack is okay but I’ve never found him that interesting.
I must say, I am liking the StudyTube project so far, there is a good mix of different smaller studytubers with more of a range of different backgrounds like Lydia Violetta, PaigeY and Vee Kativhu that have useful information and aren't just all study tips or study with mes.
Ruby seems to value quantity over quality, everything has to come down to a number with her, ‘Study with me for x hours’, ‘I read x books in x hours’, I find that mentality especially toxic for her younger, impressionable viewers who feel that they need to do as much work as she does and be “productive” at every hour of the day down to brushing their teeth. I do find some of her videos quite cosy and enjoyable to watch but she seems kind of silly and detached from the world a lot of the time (and is very clearly privileged).
Holly Gabrielle is really sweet but I don’t think she’s fully over her eating disorder and her obsession with fitness and her need to always be working on something and going on runs, even when on holiday, is concerning to me. Eve I have mixed feelings about, mostly she annoys me and comes off as rather entitled but I do find her more watchable and honest than Jade or Ruby. Jack is okay but I’ve never found him that interesting.
I must say, I am liking the StudyTube project so far, there is a good mix of different smaller studytubers with more of a range of different backgrounds like Lydia Violetta, PaigeY and Vee Kativhu that have useful information and aren't just all study tips or study with mes.
Two interesting general StudyTube things:
Number one, this tweet
Number two, this article
Number one, this tweet
Number two, this article
‘Studytube’: From A*s to Toxic Productivity
Studytube: the place where students from GCSE to their masters degree share tips, tricks, routines and home truths about grades, over achieving and revision. The place where countless students will…
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KawaiiSloth
Chatty Member
Ruby is definitely not a representation of how most students are, or how they should be. With Nursing you'll be doing placements as well, so it won't be all just sitting at a desk. Unlike Ruby's degree, your degree will pretty much guaruntee you a job at the end of it.
Trust me, her videos do not portray a healthy relationship with studying. Plenty of people do well whilst having a social life and other commitments. Lydia Violetta's videos give a much more realistic idea of what university is like for most people.
Do you feel that “older” studytubers are struggling to stay relevant?
I think there is a clear pattern in studytubers
- studying & productivity aka their studytube days
- food : going vegan
- extreme exercising (running, gymnastics, yoga etc in unhealthy quantity )
- mental health “awareness”
I think there is a clear pattern in studytubers
- studying & productivity aka their studytube days
- food : going vegan
- extreme exercising (running, gymnastics, yoga etc in unhealthy quantity )
- mental health “awareness”
nissigossips
Well-known member
Hi guys, I made this account after being blocked by Rosie (JustALittleRoo, part of the Studytube Project) after calling her out on not social distancing ended up in her blocking me 
It really frustrates me how many of the StudyTubers aren't making any effort to social distance (I have a family member on immunosuppressants who's still shielding, so I know I'm more touchy than most people would be about this). But I can't believe they always say "call me out if I do something problematic!" but when you do, they block you I only have instagram to follow YouTubers I like as well, which has kind of made it even more sad.
(My first reply is hidden because she blocked me, but I said something like you can still spread the virus when a camera is pointing at you)
It really frustrates me how many of the StudyTubers aren't making any effort to social distance (I have a family member on immunosuppressants who's still shielding, so I know I'm more touchy than most people would be about this). But I can't believe they always say "call me out if I do something problematic!" but when you do, they block you
I only have instagram to follow YouTubers I like as well, which has kind of made it even more sad.
(My first reply is hidden because she blocked me, but I said something like you can still spread the virus when a camera is pointing at you)
Thanks for this thread
I've followed Eve for the longest (since her GCSEs) and it's nice to see her succeed and I'm also really glad that she's enjoying Oxford and it's everything she hoped it would be. Her vlogs can be a little dull at times cos there's a lot of time lapses but in general I enjoy following along with what she's up to. Like you @emmer_mo I graduated quite a few yrs ago so I'm glad I'm not her only older viewer!
I only discovered Ruby and Jade when they were doing their Oxford videos. I do find Jade sweet but she's a little tooo positive and her healthy lifestyle and gap year dont interest me. I tend to watch Ruby in the mornings when I'm getting ready cos she's got a calming voice. It'll be interesting to see how she gets on. I sometimes get the feeling she's not enjoying the social side of uni that much. Maybe it's cos her kitchen is in her room so you never see her in a communal living space or with friends/flatmates.
Not sure if this is the right place but she doesnt have her own thread. Does anyone watch Molly/beauty_spectrum? She did some study type videos when she was at school and is close with Eve. Her uni vlogs are probably my fav out of all of them.
I've followed Eve for the longest (since her GCSEs) and it's nice to see her succeed and I'm also really glad that she's enjoying Oxford and it's everything she hoped it would be. Her vlogs can be a little dull at times cos there's a lot of time lapses but in general I enjoy following along with what she's up to. Like you @emmer_mo I graduated quite a few yrs ago so I'm glad I'm not her only older viewer!
I only discovered Ruby and Jade when they were doing their Oxford videos. I do find Jade sweet but she's a little tooo positive and her healthy lifestyle and gap year dont interest me. I tend to watch Ruby in the mornings when I'm getting ready cos she's got a calming voice. It'll be interesting to see how she gets on. I sometimes get the feeling she's not enjoying the social side of uni that much. Maybe it's cos her kitchen is in her room so you never see her in a communal living space or with friends/flatmates.
Not sure if this is the right place but she doesnt have her own thread. Does anyone watch Molly/beauty_spectrum? She did some study type videos when she was at school and is close with Eve. Her uni vlogs are probably my fav out of all of them.