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SmallWonder

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Boring new video up: Shane sings a tinnitus inducing sponsorship ad for Raycon headphones in a fake southern accent. Shane and Hannah talk about what they will do if they get a million subscribers and Hannah sits next to Shane while wearing a skimpy bikini. Hannah begins the video by saying that Shane is busy with his new job for hours on end and that she has nothing to do and feels sorry for herself- what a terrible life to be bored in a mansion with a pool 😑.
 
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So many things have been said and I think I came late to the party. But I just wanna respond to a couple of things that PolarbearNinja AKA Hannah (jk) said that I haven't seen being replied to. Sorry If I am repeating stuff.

Also, welcome new members.

1) Their videos are not about their entire days. I'm a film director and let me tell you, you can fake that weeks go by filming everything in one day and editing it into a 10-minute video. This is exactly what they do when they show "days" have passed, and those videos about "their whole day" is shot in about an hour. But don't believe me, take your phone and make a video yourself, you'll believe it.

2) Somebody mentioned it already, but they were not legally married until there was some pressure from people. They lied plain and simple. It wasn't until they saw some backlash that they decided to make it real.

3) It was mentioned that they clearly spend a lot of time together. We have reason to believe, based on the videos that we've seen that Hannah's mom is Shane's caretaker. Hannah is in this moneymaking machine and them being together throughout the lockdown made sense. Like I mentioned before, we don't know how much time they actually spend together, because all we see is a 10-minute video about their lives. What happens the rest of the 23 hours and 50 minutes?

4) Hannah doesn't work hard. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE DOES THE WHOLE DAY. What some of us think she does is be with her actual partner (her bestie), maybe that's the secret life you mentioned. Also, you know what else she does? Be in a bikini in a pool mansion, making money off advertisements, youtube revenue, and other endorsements.

5)Not everyone here believes she doesn't like Shane. Maybe she likes him enough to do all the traveling and videos, but not enough to sleep with him, maybe her actual caretaker does everything they claim she does.

6) Watch the video about them traveling to Orlando and tell me who's doing all the work. I'll give you a hint: it ain't Hannah.

They are both liars, greedy, evil, vain, and manipulators. They claim their channel is about awareness and being advocates yet when someone reaches out to them with genuine questions about disability or asking for some kind of help, instead of helping they have someone like Jamaican Rain respond telling them to donate through Patreon so they can talk to them directly. What kind of shit is that?
 
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Hannah is a gaslighter, pure and simple. In the “pregnancy scare” video, as she talks about her cycle, her direct quote is “you can’t get pregnant without a period, obviously.” Then, in the stop asking us video, she’s all pissy saying, I don’t know why people kept commenting that you can get pregnant without a period, like why would they think I didn’t know that. And was really rude about it. Ummm maybe bc that’s exactly what you said and your supporters thought they were being helpful? But nooo Hannah knows everything and how dare anyone imply she doesn’t. Do they even remember what they said in previous videos? Kinda seems like they don’t. Exhausting.
 
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Jbogie

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What would Hannah have to gain when, at the end of the day, she still has to physically live with Shane?

1. A mansion with a pool
2. Getting to live with her 2 favorite people (hint: Shane isn’t one of them)
3. Adoring fans who think her selflessness is akin to sainthood.
4. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
5. The knowledge that this is temporary because the likelihood of S&H growing old together is nil.

Regardless of how these two came together (and I don’t claim to know), I do believe there was an infatuation period where they really liked each other and couldn’t stand being apart. I think those days are LONG,LONG gone. In fact, I think she has very little use for him. I think they created a financial monster that needs to be continuously fed and now they’re ”stuck” with their channel turning into one giant sponsorship campaign. The greed will be their downfall. They should have taken things a little slower. That’s just my 2 cents.
 
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Sad I know but Hannah if you see this can you please wash his chest harness :sick::cry: absolutely minging… - there is no care or love there!
 
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SmallWonder

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Shane picks up ALL THE SLACK?! He can't even pick up a fucking fork!!! Laying low with a little stomach bug in a mansion watching I-Carly reruns (Is she a 9 year old?!) must be so terrible for her :rolleyes:. Hannah is a major "woe is me" pussy with a low pain tolerance.
 
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books.bkwrds

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Not all of us think shes in it for the money and Im still not 100 percent convinced Shane actually has any money. What im saying is there is some serious mental illness going on between the both of them. Shane is way beyond “just a normal disabled guy” hes equal to an infant as he can barely do a single thing for himself. Not to mention hes self loathing and hates being compared to anyone else with his affliction. They have zero chemistry between eachother Hannah 1000 yard stares and fake laughs at every ridiculous thing Shane says its blatantly obvious shes acting. What twenty something year old girl would drop everything in her life to wipe a severely crippled narcissists butt all day? Some of us on here believe Hannah is a victim of some sorts and this is her way of coping, others might say shes a closeted lesbian. I do not believe they are intimate and theres a lot of deceit in their videos
 
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Tilly Kister

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This. Thanks for pointing out how they are putting more emphasis on their size and power difference. I am convinced this feeds into some sort of fetish of their patreon clients. I did not feel like pointing it out here, glad you did it.
Also, their thumbnails and camera angles are fishy as hell. I don't feel like screenshotting, but just check the thumbnail of their 'nightcare routine' video. One wouldn't say they were disability advocates, but rather softcore disability porn sellers. Sad but true. I am going to find a bucket now to barf in. Have a nice day!
A small selection of their dodgy af thumbnails.

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And this content is deemed "suitable for children" is it YouTube? While channels which dare to discuss issues of child predators, sexual abuse and violence against women carried out by other YouTubers are censored, demonetised or simply disabled.
 
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fredflintstone

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Anyone live local to them that could contact the police about her driving - if she's having to either hold his head with one or constantly check to make sure his head hasn't fallen over - then she is driving distracted and she could end up killing him or worse - some innocent person
In short, ain't happenin'.

The tl;dr version:

The police would have to observe Hannah driving and pull her over for an unrelated issue like speeding, running a stop sign, exhibiting significant road rage that's endangering other drivers (my money's on that one), or something as simple as a burned out taillight. And in MN, she could be pulled over for anyone in the vehicle not being properly restrained.


During a traffic stop an officer would have to question them if/how Shane is strapped in. Or, heaven forbid, they respond to the scene of an accident and have to pull what's left of Shane (or both of them) from the wreckage. That fall off the icy ramp when Shane said he saw his life flash before his eyes is nothing compared to the damage a MVA could do. Flip that big SUV just once, and it would be a miracle if he survived. If his neck didn't snap first, and the vehicle landed upside down, the roof could be compromised enough for his 400-pound wheelchair to crush him which, ironically, is the reason commercial airlines claim they do not allow wheelchair users to remain in their wheelchairs in the cabin.

You would have thought his parents would have insisted upon proper restraints when they were still providing his care, but I remember in one of the early videos seeing his mother reach over and prop his head back up. The laws vary from U.S. state to U.S. state, but PA laws are similar to MN's.


Most states place responsibility on the DRIVER for all passengers being properly belted in. So what that means is I don't care if my front-seat passenger (or a minor in the back in my state) doesn't want to buckle up. I'm not going to risk getting a traffic ticket because YOU don't like wearing a seatbelt.

Shane had one of those foam neck braces in an early video but said he hated wearing it. Same as with his wrist splints (and perhaps other sorts of splints that might have helped him have more mobility and less deformity today) had his parents, and once he became an adult, Shane, had the discipline to use such aids. When he was a minor they could have insisted he wear the splints prescribed. What was he going to do? Tear them off?

Other than providing minimal support, such as keeping his head from falling over when they hit a pothole or speed bump or turn a corner (seems it would be more comfortable), that foam neck brace isn't going to provide nearly the level of support a rigid neck brace or toddler seat would. Even his "airplane seat" strapped into the back seat wouldn't keep his head from falling forward, but it looks safer than him sitting up front, his head sitting precariously atop his neck like Colorado Springs' "Balanced Rock."

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It still seems like he needs a system to keep his neck completely stable in all directions. I can see why he'd probably hate it, but it could mean the difference between life and death in a just minor accident.

The police aren't going to knock on their door and say, "Mr. Burcaw, we've received information regarding your well-being which necessitates we check the safety equipment required for you to ride in a passenger vehicle," any more than if you report your neighbors who regularly let their unrestrained toddlers climb all over the inside of their moving car... ain't gonna happen. The police would have to witness the vehicle moving and see the kids bouncing around inside. I suppose a police officer could pull up beside S&G at a traffic light, look over, and think Shane is a small child who should be riding in a proper seat in the back and pull them over for that, but that's a long shot. He may have gotten a medical exception (from a not-very-bright doctor IMO), so that would be the end of it. They have to have a reason to stop someone besides the word of someone, however well-meaning the person is.

As others have noted and Hannah's frequent distracted driving shows, his wheelchair straps don't do anything to stabilize his neck. Even a sudden stop or low-speed impact could snap his neck in half like a twig. At the very minimum it would seem if he's going to ride in his chair up front that there needs to be a rigid neck brace (something much sturdier than his horseshoe pillow) and some sort of strap(s) to secure his forehead to his headrest... assuming the headrest on his wheelchair could withstand the force the headrest of the OEM seatback could. It looks pretty flimsy.

I think others have mentioned the risk of someone of his size being hit with an airbag. Even very short adults are at risk of serious injury from a deployed airbag.

Since he's the height of a toddler with even less muscle than a toddler, it stands to reason that, based upon his height and size that he should be strapped into at a minimum a toddler seat, depending on the local and MN state laws.

I'm not an M.D., but I do have an biomedical engineering degree, so I have had some experience in designing medical equipment. Also, a very good understanding of physics! It's horrifying to consider all the physics involved in all the scenarios previously discussed. I don't know who began this particular topic, but thank you. I hadn't really considered just how dangerous it seems for Shane to ride in a motor vehicle sitting in his wheelchair. I rarely read the comments on their videos, but has anyone seen someone ask them about this subject?
 
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VirtualSkeptic

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Why does it matter if he wears diapers or uses the toilet.....We all know why it matters so much to him, his frail ego basically. He wants to be seen as a normal member of society no matter how far from reality that is, though considering how bad his condition is, no one cares about his diapers, lying about himself is far worse.
Its a shame theyre both such selfish aholes. His channel could actually be one of the best of its kind on youtube if he was honest about his day to day life and how hard it is to cope and keep himself going. But he went in an entirely different direction with the content and turned it into a reality tv show thats not based in reality. They made lots of money and have lots of (the dumbest ever) fans but somehow I doubt any of his family is really proud of his product thats just a big sham....You think he'd want to have a real impact which he easily would if he was merely honest because he does have a powerful story minus all the bullshit.
 
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Cattycat79

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It is obvious his legs were always abnormally skinny, but recently it's become extremely noticeable that he's lost weight there. I never paid attention to his knees before, but it's glaring being so shiny and bulbous now. Quite disturbing, actually. First pic is from their Paris trip. There's no way he is this gaunt and has proper organ function.
 

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Do we know what Shane's new job is ?
Also as a woman i wear whatever I want and don't pay attention to comments if I get them, yes people shouldn't cat call or make comments, but at the same time I wouldn't dream about making a video in a bathing suit that is that far up my ass! Just as a self respect thing and like it's a "family" channel! Just like of you're going to a bar you might wear a mini skirt, but if you're going for dinner with your grandparents ...maybe a longer one...
 
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Tablesalt

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He has fat feet but they could easily get him some smaller shoes that fit him properly but he likes having the appearance of adult sized feet since hes just "a normal guy in a wheelchair" . Shanes little but "little person" is whats used to describe someone born with dwarfism.
I'm sure his shoes fit his feet about as well as a condom fits on his dick
 
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Tilly Kister

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I think it's a lot more likely that JR is an obsessive creep who likes a lot of different sexual deviants. Stanning for Onison and S&G fits that profile.
Ever since I heard about those people who fetishise disability I've been seeing more and more of them in S&G's comments. I remember when that Special Books channel had its comments disabled over claims that sexual predators were using the comments section to pass coded messages to one another and to alert each other to particular kids they could creep over.

There are entire swathes of YouTube it seems that are a sort of Deviant Disneyland and S&G are one of the prime attractions. Shane is not only severely disabled he's very childlike in appearance and Hannah loves to shake her T&A. So they have a lot of crossover appeal.
 
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Cattycat79

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I'm not going to get into how the vaccinated can still actually contract and spread the virus, but if they were so worried about Shane getting sick from unvaccinated friends/relatives, maybe they can all wear masks? They wore masks all alone in their backyard for their phoney Zoom wedding, so why not? They're also so concerned about Shane's fragile immune system that they don't wear their masks out shopping amongst the general public. He, in particular, should be wearing an N95. Just some observations - they make no damn sense. I agree with DoubleOld that this is a cheap excuse to keep this event within their scam-enabling circle and control the narrative. If this was a real wedding party and not a "production", they'd hire a photographer.

Hannah takes the occasional jab at him faking his eating abilities, for example:
- Forcing him to chug his nutrition shake when he was obviously trying to stall and avoid it (bedtime routine video)
- When he pretended to be "sooo full" at a restaurant and said he ate everything, she said "that's not true; I packed up most of it". We know that is the scenerio 100% of the time.
- Stuffing that piece of pie in his mouth with her fingers while giving him a murderous glare, displaying the difficulty he has with eating a small piece of something solid. Like "you want everyone to think you're a big boy who can eat everything, so eat it, fucker".
He brings it on himself, but still a troubling dynamic.
 
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DoubleOld

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He looks ill. Like seriously unwell, not just a bit under the weather. Run down and exhausted type ill.
I agree. And as much as I don't like the direction he has taken his channel, it is sad to see how much weaker he looks and how much muscle mass he has lost in his arms and neck. Even his face looks gaunt in a way it hasn't before.

What angers me is the deception of it all: Using filters, their "nothing wrong here" affect and their showing off their pointless mansion to viewers as pretty background scenery to avoid the real issues. How is this disability advocacy?
 
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SmallWonder

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Not only do they heavily filter, but I am convinced that they use camera correction on her very downturned outer corners of her eyes through editing.
I can't stand filters- now that I've learned about video filtering, I see it everywhere on Youtube- people are even filtering babies and pets these days!
 
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Clara88

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This is a genuine question to those of you that think their whole relationship is fake (or at least that Hannah is only in it for the money)

If Hannah is a gold digger, wouldn't it have been easier for her to woo maybe an older but mobile rich man? She could have had a rich lifestyle that way much easier.. without the effort she does now.

You might not believe she does Shane's care but she a least does everything you see on video which is still a lot. They're also definitely legally married and live together.

When they first met, Shane wasn't rich. He had a popular blog but still lived at home with his parents. I wouldn't have called him famous.. maybe vaguely known on Tumblr. She would have had predicted they'd become rich and popular.

I just think if someone just in it for money/fame would not go to the effort she has to maintain it all (even if it's only the on camera stuff). They clearly do spend a very large amount of time together (especially during lockdown where they barely saw anyone else). It would take a lot of effort to fake all that.

I'm just genuinely curious how someone could explain away all that without sounding like a conspiracy theorist of QAnon levels. Like when people went super conspiracy mode looking at Liz's Facebook page from years ago having a recent photo of Shane on it so assuming the recent photo was actually old.. when obviously she had shared a Facebook page that updates to show the latest photo. It was easier to assume a photo was fake for no discernible reason.

You can think her attraction to him is weird in some way or another.. but she must have one. You can think they don't show the whole truth of their lives.. but it doesn't make any sense to say their relationship isn't real.

(Also before you think I'm connected to anyone to do with the channel..I'm not. I'm just genuinely curious how people can convince themselves of outlandish conspiracy theories because it makes more sense to them than someone being in love with a disabled person)

I still think Hannah is likely on the autistic spectrum and possibly also has trauma regarding men. Her sensory issues, very odd expressions, over-reliance/co-dependence on her mother, lack of an interest in socializing, and emotional outbursts all give me this vibe. Liz also seems a bit Aspie to me, she's a bit 'off' as well and seems overly servile. Apparently it's way more common for autistic women to date someone physically disabled for some reason and they often seek out relationships where they do a lot of emotional or physical labor. Also, autistic people also are more likely to have fetishes than the average population. Hannah is emotionally immature for her age. I would bet that she's mostly asexual or sexually very strange.

At this point I agree that whatever their real relationship was, it's taken a backseat to the huge youtube financial windfall that's happened & now money dominates their lives.
 
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