If they use autism to cover it up I will be bleeping disgusted. My son is severely autistic, non verbal etc and it’s hard enough trying to get people in this day and age to accept him and understand how additional needs work without actual murderers getting given the benefit of the doubt because their brain works abit differently. It shouldn’t matter what kinds of diagnosis he has he’s murder innocent kids and tried to murder a lot more. rum
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Psychiatric units are not at all cushy
I’ve been reading along and just can’t get over what happened to those poor kids 
I will say though that I work for a local authority in public health in the north east - we’ve been having talks about retraining our safeguarding and prevent training to include “inceldom” into the category of terrorism and extremism. I don’t know if this was an attack because of incel beliefs, but it’s setting off my radars that he sounded like a bit of a recluse prior to this attack. Just because he had no known online presence, doesn’t mean he wasn’t into the dark web.
I don’t get why the police etc would want people to feel sympathy for him and I don’t believe that’s what they’re doing. I know some people don’t care about motive, his background etc and it is and SHOULD be about those kids and people he attacked, however motive is important too because it underpins things that are happening in society. A motive isn’t an excuse, it’s determining the WHY to help prevent this happening again. Whether this is related to incel beliefs or not, I’m hoping we can finally address this for the issue it is rather than sweeping it under the rug. For too long, there have been issues with budget cuts, staffing issues and lack of services and this does make a huge difference to society. We feel it where we work, and others will too.
I will say though that I work for a local authority in public health in the north east - we’ve been having talks about retraining our safeguarding and prevent training to include “inceldom” into the category of terrorism and extremism. I don’t know if this was an attack because of incel beliefs, but it’s setting off my radars that he sounded like a bit of a recluse prior to this attack. Just because he had no known online presence, doesn’t mean he wasn’t into the dark web.
I don’t get why the police etc would want people to feel sympathy for him and I don’t believe that’s what they’re doing. I know some people don’t care about motive, his background etc and it is and SHOULD be about those kids and people he attacked, however motive is important too because it underpins things that are happening in society. A motive isn’t an excuse, it’s determining the WHY to help prevent this happening again. Whether this is related to incel beliefs or not, I’m hoping we can finally address this for the issue it is rather than sweeping it under the rug. For too long, there have been issues with budget cuts, staffing issues and lack of services and this does make a huge difference to society. We feel it where we work, and others will too.
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You’d be surprised how portraying heinous killers in a certain way (through media sources )does things to people’s subconscious.
It’s not incarceration in a max security prison though where hopefully the prisoners will take the law into their own hands!
I have a relative that works in a psychiatric hospital. She works with men who have murdered and grape women and other disgusting criminal offences. From what she describes it’s far, far cushier than an equivalent prison so I too would be horrified if the mental health card is played and that’s where the little piece of tit ends up.
I find this 'playing the mental health card' stuff so frustrating. I see it everywhere. You can't 'play' at anything in a situation like this. Unless you're calling into question the opinion of qualified and experienced psychiatrists, some of whom will be called as expert witnesses.
I understand why people need to demonize someone guilty of something so terrific. It's a human way to cope with the idea that those kind of things happen. But it doesn't help to prevent other mass murders to happen. By demonizing someone people are comforted in the idea that they have nothing to do with someone like him. I strongly believe murderers are a product of society. They don't come from nowhere. We can only address those kind of crimes if we try to understand what has happened. What were the missing safeguardings?
This teenager used a knife for his crimes but the method is not that different than shooters targetting kids in schools in the USA. They all have a similar profile: young men that are often isolated and introverted. Why is this happening more and more? Why suddenly young men decide to plot the murder of young children/strangers? Their ethinicity doesn't seem to matter much as there no link has been found but somehow people want to focus on this. I guess it's because people need to be able to say it's not one of us. It has nothing to do with us. I don't agree. Those mass murders are the symptoms of something going wrong in the fabric of our society.
Another point I think is important to discuss is why are we more horrified by this tragedy than by the fact that every few days a woman is murdered by their partner. Hundreds of women are victim of feminicide every year in the UK. But I don't see rioters in the street or far right wing activists being outraged by this. We live in a culture where women and other vulnerable people are fair game and not much is done to change this.
As for for revealing the identity of the criminal I am a bit unsure what's best to do. I remember that a few years ago when there was a wave of terrorist attacks in France, it was suggested that those terrorists were enjoying to have their names in the medias, to get some "fame". French medias then toned down to not give them this. We should investigate the profile of mass murderers and if they enjoy being "famous" we should take away that from them.
This teenager used a knife for his crimes but the method is not that different than shooters targetting kids in schools in the USA. They all have a similar profile: young men that are often isolated and introverted. Why is this happening more and more? Why suddenly young men decide to plot the murder of young children/strangers? Their ethinicity doesn't seem to matter much as there no link has been found but somehow people want to focus on this. I guess it's because people need to be able to say it's not one of us. It has nothing to do with us. I don't agree. Those mass murders are the symptoms of something going wrong in the fabric of our society.
Another point I think is important to discuss is why are we more horrified by this tragedy than by the fact that every few days a woman is murdered by their partner. Hundreds of women are victim of feminicide every year in the UK. But I don't see rioters in the street or far right wing activists being outraged by this. We live in a culture where women and other vulnerable people are fair game and not much is done to change this.
As for for revealing the identity of the criminal I am a bit unsure what's best to do. I remember that a few years ago when there was a wave of terrorist attacks in France, it was suggested that those terrorists were enjoying to have their names in the medias, to get some "fame". French medias then toned down to not give them this. We should investigate the profile of mass murderers and if they enjoy being "famous" we should take away that from them.
It was advertised on social media but I'm quite local and follow the venue page and hadn't seen it (or perhaps I did see it and it just didn't register as it wasn't relevant to me at the time). So just feels like he either heard about it from somewhere or was seeking out a target. I definitely don't think it was random as he'll have had to go upstairs, and later that afternoon it would've been empty anyway. He had opportunities to attack the taxi driver, garage staff, or anyone nearer to his home but he chooses defenceless little girls. That's not an accident.
I've no doubt that the police will be looking for links though
It's impossible/futile to try to figure any rational/semi rational motive in this tragedy in regards to the specimen who carried it out.
IMHO he's absolutely stone cold demented. Probably eats his own tit and thinks that the moon is a tumour.
Apparently he had some interest in musical theatre/dance according to the tabloids so he may have been aware of the place where he went. It could be that simple.
Incidentally if you study/are a student of recedivism, "spree killers" tend to go for easier targets.
The Taylor Swift being a feminist icon stuff in regards to this case is specious/laughable IMHO.
The only other thing that flags something up for me (dunno quite what though) is the similarity to the case in France last year with the knife man in the play ground/play area.
See, I'm trying to figure the internal logic of a demented crazy maniac too now!
IMHO he's absolutely stone cold demented. Probably eats his own tit and thinks that the moon is a tumour.
Apparently he had some interest in musical theatre/dance according to the tabloids so he may have been aware of the place where he went. It could be that simple.
Incidentally if you study/are a student of recedivism, "spree killers" tend to go for easier targets.
The Taylor Swift being a feminist icon stuff in regards to this case is specious/laughable IMHO.
The only other thing that flags something up for me (dunno quite what though) is the similarity to the case in France last year with the knife man in the play ground/play area.
See, I'm trying to figure the internal logic of a demented crazy maniac too now!
Yeah, I don't see how Taylor Swift being some feminist icon (lol) is why he stabbed a bunch of kids? It makes no sense.
This. Do people actually think the police, courts and experienced medical professionals are deliberately going to create some kind of cover story for this person? People need to let due process take its course.
Exactly this. Also normal, rational people do not go and stab multiple people. I would be much more concerned if this person didn’t have severe mental health issues.
What is also of concern is that there are more people like him walking the streets. How you determine those individuals who are likely to become killers goodness only knows, but the very poor way we have funded mental health care over the last 14 years has made things worse.
If I’m really being honest, I’m getting increasingly annoyed of people being labelled far right. They are just fed up of not being listened to and ignored and two tier policing doesn’t help either. Protesting doesn’t solve anything writing to your local mp is a waste of time so rioting is there last resort I am not condoning it but
But this is what happens when central government are aposed to doing anything about the situation in the country people are fed up of one rule one and another rule for other people they are also fed up of the two tier policing and the illegal migration with no documentation and people from other countries coming over to Britain abusing the system and rapeing and killing British citizens
Also the lack intergrating is a problem
But this is what happens when central government are aposed to doing anything about the situation in the country people are fed up of one rule one and another rule for other people they are also fed up of the two tier policing and the illegal migration with no documentation and people from other countries coming over to Britain abusing the system and rapeing and killing British citizens
Also the lack intergrating is a problem
He was born here?
Yeah he was but in some other cases that’s not the case
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I am extremely mortified on how the media are spinning the narrative using childhood photograph to invoke feelings of sympathy and tug at the heart strings trying to humanise him
“The quite choir boy “ they will try and cover this one up with saying he is autistic can see it coming off
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I would suspect this is a first episode of psychosis. No one sane does something like this, as someone said before.
The one common denominator is MEN. It has nothing to do with race.
How has this got anything to do with the southport murders? He wasn't an immigrant or an illegal migrant. This literally has nothing to do with this situation. Rioting wasn't some kind of political last resort, it was thugs using this situation for their own agenda to instigate violence. They're rum.
The one common denominator is MEN. It has nothing to do with race.
I can see where @Jas19/2 is coming from here. I think it’s a mixture of things, it’s not just the Southport attacks, it’s the attacks on innocent people happening every day, each one seemingly becoming more shocking than the others. The crimes are committed by a mixture of different people from all walks of life and people have had enough. The rioting I don’t agree with, peaceful protests fine but violence doesn’t solve anything. Tensions are extremely high in this county now, people are at boiling point and I can totally understand why. I’m scared for my children’s future. Whatever peoples opinion here on this thread, that’s their opinion and they are entitled to it, whether you think it’s right or not. I don’t agree with people policing other peoples thoughts, or trying to start arguments at a time when people need to unite more than ever. If you don’t agree with it, and you can’t respect someone else’s opinion (however different to your own) hit the ignore button it’s there for a reason.
You can’t riot to stop people hurting others when you’re doing the same 
22 police officers AND dogs out of work plus the many innocent bystanders getting attacked to stop other people attacking and killing people? It makes 0 sense and it’s people with 0 brain cells joining in
22 police officers AND dogs out of work plus the many innocent bystanders getting attacked to stop other people attacking and killing people? It makes 0 sense and it’s people with 0 brain cells joining in
We are more horrified because they are little, vulnerable, tiny little girls they are CHILDREN!!! Tiny little girls terrified knifed to death by a bleeping deranged monster, without their mums or dads to protect them, fuxking terrified can you imagine the absolute pain and horror! It goes against every fuckkng fibre of human nature! Why the actual duck are you even trying to minimise & compare it!
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