Southport Attacks

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Is this going to be the new "not all men?". I hate when people centre themselves in the middle of a tragedy like this. It's pretty obvious that no one is blaming him being autistic for him going on to murder children. They are simply reporting fact.

Depending on how much being autistic impacts him it will affect his trial. In the case of Brianna didn't they have to have "reasonable accommodations" for the murderous tit boy to make sure the trial was considered legal and fair??
Yes it will have an impact the authorities will still have a duty of care to make sure he can cope in his surroundings, it said it was the prosecution mentioned it so I’m assuming they have concerns about him being placed back with his parents ( moved to a safe house) as he wasn’t engaging with them prior to the attack.
 
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Yes it will have an impact the authorities will still have a duty of care to make sure he can cope in his surroundings, it said it was the prosecution mentioned it so I’m assuming they have concerns about him being placed back with his parents ( moved to a safe house) as he wasn’t engaging with them prior to the attack.
Thanks for conforming that, it sounds reasonable enough for them to be concerned!
 
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It annoys me how mental health issues seem to be used as some sort of excuse these days. Not saying you’re doing that Grifty. But look at Huw Edwards he used Mental Health to get an easier ride with all that carry on last year.
I know mental health isn’t a black and white but there are millions of suffers who don’t commit crimes and/or have dodgy dealings.
As this case is nowhere near the trial stage I don't see how anyone can be sure that MH will be used as an "excuse" (not that the scumbag who did this should be given an easy ride).
Nevertheless it seems likely that he was experiencing some degree of psychosis which was of a different nature to other sufferers (as you say, MH isn't b&w). It encapsulates a huge range of different pathologies and lots of other factors might well might have influenced his horrific actions.
 
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Thanks for conforming that, it sounds reasonable enough for them to be concerned!
We don’t know how he manages at home he could have violent tendencies and that’s why he stayed/ kept indoors? We’ll have to wait for the trial to know for sure.
 
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Is this going to be the new "not all men?". I hate when people centre themselves in the middle of a tragedy like this. It's pretty obvious that no one is blaming him being autistic for him going on to murder children. They are simply reporting fact.

Depending on how much being autistic impacts him it will affect his trial. In the case of Brianna didn't they have to have "reasonable accommodations" for the murderous tit boy to make sure the trial was considered legal and fair??
I agree with you. It would be no different if they said he had a hearing impairment or another physical disability. It’s just stating a fact that needs some consideration by the court.
 
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There is a recent photo of him going round, I won't be posting it but if it's really him then he isn't anything like the baby faced boy the press are showing.
 
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A WhatsApp message going round too.
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It was a dance studio he targeted there’s reports he did musical theatre wonder if there’s a link there 🤔
 
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A WhatsApp message going round too.
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It was a dance studio he targeted there’s reports he did musical theatre wonder if there’s a link there 🤔
There has to be some link as it seems so random but specific at the same time
 
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There has to be some link as it seems so random but specific at the same time
The narratives being set 🤔 father was a taxi driver they never seemed to leave home,he did star in a west end musical.
 

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The narratives being set 🤔 father was a taxi driver they never seemed to leave home,he did star in a west end musical.
So we have
- never left the h
-wasn’t online
- was a Choir boy

but somehow decided to go to a random swiftie thing 5 miles away for a rampage.


Something isn’t making sense
 
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So we have
- never left the h
-wasn’t online
- was a Choir boy

but somehow decided to go to a random swiftie thing 5 miles away for a rampage.


Something isn’t making sense
All running with the same headline I think they’ve got the memo to keep the peace, remember the Dublin school stabber was a poor, destitute , reclusive man that was suffering from a brain tumour 🙄
 

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All running with the same headline I think they’ve got the memo to keep the peace, remember the Dublin school stabber was a poor, destitute , reclusive man that was suffering from a brain tumour 🙄
I can’t believe they went with choir boy though on this occasion.
 
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I can’t believe they went with choir boy though on this occasion.
I don't give a flying F**K what his background is........he's a murdering scumbag who needs to be executed.
In my country they use "background" to initiate massive discounts in sentencing in murder/manslaughter and grape charges.
They get a much lower sentence if they had a tit upbringing......WTAF????
 
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My main concern is that due to the Leeds/Harehills riot just recently, the country/ public is in a heightened state, in the trauma conditions of post covid, and then health care failings due to money! The public of this country have been through so much the fear levels are increased.



Leadership needs to soothe the country overall,
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For the record, I'm a Labour supporters, ex trade union rep, fully for legal immigration and safety for refugees. That's not to say I can't sense this swell of mood here in the UK of people feeling swamped and looking for a target to blame and attach that indefinable fear to. I listened to the response and you could predict how that would be reported on GB news of course 🙄
 
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Thing with Robinson is however he started out with this stuff, which may be idealistically to some degree, two decades down the road it is now a very well-funded BUSINESS for him. Although, by all reports, a not very well run one from the inside, rather he does little to no research and just hotheads off on whatever appeals and will get the most clicks and stuffs up and ends up in court, or in prison on the regular. Which of course leads to more money as he's seen as suffering for his beliefs. Doubtless this latest outbreak of idiocy has brought in more cash than he's seen in a while.

The guy was and likely still is funded to the tune of 100k a year by the Robert Shillman Foundation (a US think tank run by a tech billionaire who funds all sorts of right wing figures and causes) and the MEF (Middle East Forum), another US-based think tank. Also gets donations from followers, and has apparently misused them on gambling etc. Had multiple properties at one stage, albeit put in his wife's name. Now he lives in Tenerife, which has a massive housing crisis and ulta high housing prices. So we can assume he's really not short of a dollar, no matter how he portrays himself.

It's funny, there's an oligarch behind all the professional activists these days. Even the ones whose followers despise the technocracy and oligarch class: see Republican VP nominee JD Vance, the sockpuppet of bleeping Peter Thiel, tech billionaire and gay misogynist extreme (says women and democracy are incompatible). Talks to Trump's fanbase about hating the evil tech oligarchs while actively working for and being funded by one of the biggest. Jokes on them, obviously.
And Soros. And son. It isn't all on one side. The corruption is phenomenal. We ignore it at our peril imvho.
 
All running with the same headline I think they’ve got the memo to keep the peace, remember the Dublin school stabber was a poor, destitute , reclusive man that was suffering from a brain tumour 🙄
All these things could be true but they don’t mean he can’t go on a killing spree. I’m not seeing it as manipulation as such, just aspects of his life.
Likewise with the photo, in a more recent one he’d look older but still only 17, which isn’t old. There have been many baby faced killers.
He doesn’t need horns coming out his head and be drooling acid to be a murderer.
 
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There is a recent photo of him going round, I won't be posting it but if it's really him then he isn't anything like the baby faced boy the press are showing.
If it's the photo I've seen I don't think it's legit. Too much misinformation flying around. The court drawings only really show eyes and hair (which is obviously longer than the school photo but doesn't mean it's a different person!)


My brother is mid 20s, in the process of getting autism/ADHD diagnoses and has had several periods of time where he doesn't leave his room much or engage with family. It's just the way it works sometimes. He has past trauma also.
And it's hard to know what's going on in his head sometimes.
But he's not going on murder sprees.

I do think the murderer has probably been failed by several people - that's not necessarily the parents fault, they've probably been trying their best - but it's also no excuse for his actions.

The only mental health defence I would consider as a potential mitigation is psychosis.

I have wondered how he knew the class was on though. If he knew anyone there or something. It's not a huge place and not somewhere that everyone will have heard of, unless they were parents with kids who went there themselves
 
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I wonder if there are many recent pics of him. If he has no social media presence and doesn’t speak to his own household - it doesn’t sound like he’d be up for photos much either
 
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All these things could be true but they don’t mean he can’t go on a killing spree. I’m not seeing it as manipulation as such, just aspects of his life.
Likewise with the photo, in a more recent one he’d look older but still only 17, which isn’t old. There have been many baby faced killers.
He doesn’t need horns coming out his head and be drooling acid to be a murderer.
Literally people moan when no information is released and moan when it is but isn’t what they want/expect 🤷🏼‍♀️
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No but his fathers business records are public documents.


Interesting reading there. It seems he hasn’t paid any tax in over two years. Unless of course he had a full time job and the business was a side gig. Which is something we don’t know at the moment.

Makes you wonder as the neighbours seemed to think they were well off.
I don’t think tax returns are published on companies house, happy to be corrected?
 
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