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"He was not charged with preparing terrorist attacks, which carries a potential life sentence, because targeting schoolchildren and misogynistic attacks are not considered "ideological" offences by prosecutors."
What are we to make of that?!
Oh it did not specifically state 'school children'
It's scary enough knowing there could be copycat attacks...but the building or space or people who could be victims may not be 'specifically stated'!
What are we to make of that?!
Oh it did not specifically state 'school children'
It's scary enough knowing there could be copycat attacks...but the building or space or people who could be victims may not be 'specifically stated'!
They don’t seem to constitute these type of attacks as terror just plain old mass murder you’d think given the search history of these guys that it would change ? Scary he went as far as checking out certain premises"He was not charged with preparing terrorist attacks, which carries a potential life sentence, because targeting schoolchildren and misogynistic attacks are not considered "ideological" offences by prosecutors."
What are we to make of that?!
Oh it did not specifically state 'school children'
It's scary enough knowing there could be copycat attacks...but the building or space or people who could be victims may not be 'specifically stated'!
There is a massive undercurrent of misogyny with these attacks. They target events where the demographics will mostly be girls - Taylor Swift themed, the Ariana Grande concert, etc. It’s part of the massive issue we have with misogyny in this country that the powers that be don’t want to tackle.We really don’t know who/ what walks amongst us
Teenager pleads guilty after planning copycat of Southport killings
A 17-year-old admitted possessing extremist manuals after plotting a copycat attack inspired by the Southport killings and researching a Taylor Swift-themed event.news.sky.com
There was.a very near miss at a Lady Gaga show too.
It's more rooted in a certain ideology than our great leaders want us to believe.
I was reading about psychologists having to deal with unprecedented numbers of porn addicts ( all age groups) that along with SM doesn’t paint women in a good light, the female form seems to be there for ridicule/ dominance and we just let it happen.
It annoys me how they play on these people ‘having autism’. They’re mentally unwell people with misogynistic views and being brainwashed by extremist material online. When they mention this new case linked above and AR they link them both having autism but statistically there is nothing to say autistic people are more likely to commit crime than the general population. Sorry just touches a nerve as I have an autistic child who wouldn’t hurt a fly and it feels like they’re being grouped together.
shocked also they’re not charging this new one
shocked also they’re not charging this new one
I think it’s hard to separate the mental illness, the misogyny, the brainwashing and autism. It’s all linked.
I have autistic kids and can see why autistic boys in particular are more likely to become totally isolated from society/social norms, and also why they might start living online and then fall into extremist ideologies like radical Islam or incel forums.
A lifetime of feeling different to your peers (and your peers rejecting you) plus a literal thinking brain that’s also quite socially naive, has the potential to result in a very angry and disenfranchised young person who seeks out like minded individuals online who will tell them what they want to hear (something along the lines of duck society for rejecting you, especially women, who are all whores anyway).
Of course autistic people aren’t more likely to commit crime, but I don’t think the likes of Rudakubana and Jake Davison (the perpetrator of the Plymouth shootings in 2021) would have done what they did if they were neurotypical.
They are the worst case scenarios of autism gone bad, with parents who never did enough to intervene or get them help… not that there is much help out there.
Thank you for your intelligent post, but it does make me wonder about ND people before the advent of the online age - seemingly there were no massacres then.
It makes me worry for the future, there are so many ND people and so much disgusting content online if you seek it out - Reddit and Twitter are cesspits and they are mainstream, they link you on to 'more of the same' so it's all too easy to spiral - I can only imagine what else there is out there.
maybe my perspective is different as mine is a girl and presents very differently. Rule abiding to a fault in fact and such a strong sense of right and wrong that this would just never cross my mind as a possibility. Do you not think they have other mental illness at play though, is it really the autism that made them susceptible to such violent crime? is it more than that? Or is it a lot of poor parenting?
In AR’s case poor parenting definitely played a pivotal role. Every adult in the household (including his adult brother) ignored the signs and almost tolerated his behaviour.
I've worked with autistic young people, and as with neurotypical children, a lot of boys get away with poor behaviour and low expectations as 'that's how boys are', with young girls (even those who are autistic themselves) often still expected to guide them into better behaviour (anyone else old enough to remember when they'd put a naughty boy next to a well-behaved girl? I know children of both genders who've been asked to stay in with male autistic students at break to keep them calm even now.)
In fairness to boys, SEN and health issues can often affect them more due to their only having one X chromosome to girls' two; but there's also a lot of cultural baggage about boys and men that can mean that there's an expectation that women are responsible for them (e.g. I've seen care plans saying 'everyone in X's class should be dressed in full length tops as he's becoming interested in sex and they will distract him' or the old argument that disabled men should be able to access sex paid for from the state.)
Sometimes the lower expectations works against men as well as for them - obviously there is some kind of links to cognitive issues and understanding of risk; but while boys benefit from things like male parents staying longer in marriages with sons than daughters, or mothers breastfeeding sons longer; parents are also less watchful of boys overall from a younger age statistically (the statistics for male drownings are higher than female ones even from infancy.)
I have one of each, both autistic (your daughter sounds a lot like mine!), and they present differently for sure. I think it boils down to male vs female socialisation, which counts for an awful lot.
Males, autistic or not, are going to commit the majority of violent crime (testosterone is one hell of a drug) which means, IMO, that autistic boys are far more vulnerable to falling down a rabbit hole of self-isolation, being brainwashed online and committing violent acts.
As a general rule, girls turn their distress inward (in the form of self harm, eating disorders etc) whereas boys turn their distress outward in the form of anger and violence.
As for your bit in bold, I don’t think you can necessarily separate the autism and the mental illness. I think the mental illness arises as a result of a difficult and traumatic childhood: being ND in a NT world, and all the struggles that go along with that. Poor parenting also a big factor.
Another child terrorist …
news.sky.com
Anders Breivik-inspired teenager prepared attack on synagogue after joining far-right group The Base, court hears
The teen, who cannot be named, is accused of plotting the attack with hopes of igniting a race war.
Another one who was bullied and hated by girls, how would his parents not be triggered by the state of his room decor?
news.sky.com
Teenager accused of planning synagogue attack was arrested in school uniform, court hears
When officers raided the teenager's home, they found his bedroom was adorned with white supremacist flags.
Did his dad not look at his kid’s room and think something was amiss?
There were plenty of red flags there makes you wonder how much interaction they had?
It really grates on me that the Union flag is hung incorrectly. I do understand that doing it thus way is a sign of distress.
I'd prefer to know if it's distress or stupidity.
Another one with an array of weapons pinned to the bedroom wall…
news.sky.com
TikToker who downloaded Manchester Arena bomb-making video jailed
The nearly 15-minute footage gave detailed instructions on producing a homemade explosive known as the "mother of Satan" and a detonator, as well as how to pack the bomb with ball bearings to make it more deadly.
Probably the latter
