Southport Attacks and Aftermath #7

[maytoseptember]

Another one with an array of weapons pinned to the bedroom wall…

TikToker who downloaded Manchester Arena bomb-making video jailed

The nearly 15-minute footage gave detailed instructions on producing a homemade explosive known as the "mother of Satan" and a detonator, as well as how to pack the bomb with ball bearings to make it more deadly.

news.sky.com

Claimed he wasn’t an extremist? Pull the other one, mate.

The parents undoubtedly are extremists too. You can’t tell me they were ignorant of his little wall display. The brothers who bombed Manchester Arena were from an extremist family who knew exactly what they were up to. They fled the country and refused to answer questions.

 

[monga]

I personally think they should be named from age 16 ,if you’re able to marry and potentially vote they should be publicly named.

Teenager inspired by Southport killer who planned attack on Oasis concert sentenced

McKenzie Morgan had an al-Qaeda manual on his phone and was inspired by Southport killer Axel Rudakubana. His targets also included a dance school.

news.sky.com

 

[monga]

Give him a yr or two and he’ll be back to carry out his dream

 

[Peachsquish]

Give him a yr or two and he’ll be back to carry out his dream

Sickening especially since children who witnessed/ were involved July 2024 are still suffering mentally, I have heard the CAMHS funding for therapy has been cut for them if they want to continue then they will have to pay privately.

 

[monga]

Sickening especially since children who witnessed/ were involved July 2024 are still suffering mentally, I have heard the CAMHS funding for therapy has been cut for them if they want to continue then they will have to pay privately.

Yet attackers are given the best of MH support services

 

[Blueblue123]

Give him a yr or two and he’ll be back to carry out his dream

Sickening. They're dealing with him more seriously than AR which is better than nothing, but like you say, will he just come out at the ripe age of 19/20 and go back to how he was?

 

[monga]

Sickening. They're dealing with him more seriously than AR which is better than nothing, but like you say, will he just come out at the ripe age of 19/20 and go back to how he was?

Yeah I don’t think it’s that easy to deradicalise someone with such extreme views.

 

[Tangerine Dream]

Give him a yr or two and he’ll be back to carry out his dream

What hope do we have of a remotely decent society when not even the so-called authorties will firmly tell these nasty little guys no? I've lost hope, at this point. You hear of the things people do and get let off prison for and it can't compute.

 

[monga]

What hope do we have of a remotely decent society when not even the so-called authorties will firmly tell these nasty little guys no? I've lost hope, at this point. You hear of the things people do and get let off prison for and it can't compute.

Prison isn’t a deterrent anymore some prefer it as a way of life

 

[Peachsquish]

First part of the inquiry released.

https://archive.ph/v8eMZ

 

[monga]

As we thought , his parents protected him

https://news.sky.com/story/southport-inquiry-live-first-report-into-killings-at-dance-class-to-be-published-13529537?postid=11514454#liveblog-body

 

[monga]

This is the full statement! Bad not mad I’m still convinced that mugshot of the devil was manipulated to hide the smirk on his face, you can see it in his eyes

 

[monga]

Laughable

 

[Piff paff puff]

Laughable

Far.Too.Late.

 

[thegirlscout]

The parents should face prison time. I mean even the older brother did nothing. That whole family is complicit.

 

[Tofino]

The parents should face prison time. I mean even the older brother did nothing. That whole family is complicit.

This crossed my mind as there’s been some recent cases in the US where parents of teenage mass shooters have been convicted (I can’t recall what the specific charges were) for either not taking action depsite obvious signs or allowing access to guns. I guess if it were to happen here it might be gross negligent manslaughter? Whether police/CPS want to go down that road though, who knows.

 

[maytoseptember]

The parents should face prison time. I mean even the older brother did nothing. That whole family is complicit.

Couldn’t agree more. They knew he was, quite literally, a danger to society. Living in the same house as him must have been hell. And yet they were prepared to carry on like that indefinitely? I just can’t wrap my head around it.

They chose to say nothing, and in some warped way must have believed that speaking up was worse than carrying on with their miserable lives as they were. Why, I don’t know, although I recall some reluctance on the part of the father to do anything that would affect their access to state benefits?

Confused by the last paragraph. I think it’s grasping at straws to say that traumatic events in Rwanda meant that AR’s mother couldn’t speak to him about his horde of weapons. I mean FFS.

 

[Not Now Bernard]

Couldn’t agree more. They knew he was, quite literally, a danger to society. Living in the same house as him must have been hell. And yet they were prepared to carry on like that indefinitely? I just can’t wrap my head around it.

They chose to say nothing, and in some warped way must have believed that speaking up was worse than carrying on with their miserable lives as they were. Why, I don’t know, although I recall some reluctance on the part of the father to do anything that would affect their access to state benefits?

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Confused by the last paragraph. I think it’s grasping at straws to say that traumatic events in Rwanda meant that AR’s mother couldn’t speak to him about his horde of weapons. I mean FFS.

If anything you would think it would make her more likely to confront her son - knowing the carnage knives can create.

 

[Glaschelle]

I'm going to ask why AR's parents were allowed to give evidence from a remote location.

They should have been made to face the families. Instead they're being treated like victims.

Just the Nottingham murderers' family. Jings they even got a BBC prime time programme to tell everyone about their hurt feelings.

 

[Blueblue123]

The parents supposed fear doesn't really wash with me. If they reported it and let the authorities deal with it, they wouldn't have had to.

Not an easy decision but would've been a far better outcome for all parties, if we want to look at it from a selfish point of view of them not wanting to report or have a delinquent son.