Southport Attacks and Aftermath #7

[monga]

Love or hate him he’s the only one asks the questions we want answered.

 

[thegirlscout]

The parents should face prison time. I mean even the older brother did nothing. That whole family is complicit.

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

It’s the same issue coming out in the Nottingham enquiry. Every single authority charged with protecting the public from Valdo Calocane turned a blind eye because he’s black. We really need to face up to the danger anti racism is putting the public in.

 

[thegirlscout]

The more I hear about this family, the more I feel sick. Alphonse Rudakubana, Dion Rudakubana and Laetitia Muzayire all have blood on their hands.
Their inactions led to the death of three little girls and the physical and mental injuries to all those who survived their family member’s attack.
It’s a sad state of affairs that the family who help caused this are more protected giving evidence than those innocent children ever were.

 

[Justhereforthedrama]

His brothers account of their homelife and AR behaviour…

How fucking tragic for that boy, he knew his mum and dad had lost control, he has an illness and uses a wheelchair, i believe and he knew something was going to happen and he was helpless. I'm glad he got to move out to uni.

It makes me so angry that so many people predicted Axel's behaviour and police\prevent did not take them seriously. Did I read that his headteacher reported him to prevent THREE times? and they said that because he hadn't made a specific threat, just vague ones, that they couldn't do anything? bullshit. What a failure.

 

[NeverEnough]

So not exactly the credit to the community, tax contributing, economically valuable refugees we were lead to believe they were then?

 

[thegirlscout]

I’m not so sure! If your concern is so great why lie to those offering help?

His parents should be charged with accessory to the crimes Axel committed. Their behaviour has been appalling. As far as I know even the brother didn’t report him to any authorities. Horrendous family.

 

[Tangerine Dream]

I wish it was a surprise about what's now coming out about the parents.

This is the same story where the media desperately insisted on the 'Welsh choir boy' and 'Doctor Who advert star' narratives until they had no choice to stop.

With the way they actively stood in the way of the police even after calling them of their own accord and not letting other authorative figures into the home, it feels like they should face some sort of charge too.

 

[Glaschelle]

I'm going to ask why AR's parents were allowed to give evidence from a remote location.

They should have been made to face the families. Instead they're being treated like victims.

Just the Nottingham murderers' family. Jings they even got a BBC prime time programme to tell everyone about their hurt feelings.

 

[thegirlscout]

We really don’t know who/ what walks amongst us

Teenager pleads guilty after planning copycat of Southport killings

A 17-year-old admitted possessing extremist manuals after plotting a copycat attack inspired by the Southport killings and researching a Taylor Swift-themed event.

news.sky.com

There is a massive undercurrent of misogyny with these attacks. They target events where the demographics will mostly be girls - Taylor Swift themed, the Ariana Grande concert, etc. It’s part of the massive issue we have with misogyny in this country that the powers that be don’t want to tackle.

 

[observerisshe]

End of the MEN article

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Take your tears elsewhere. The girls nor their families need you crying for them.
You’re as much to blame.

 

[maytoseptember]

I can’t believe what they’re admitting to the inquiry. This goes beyond naivety, or misguided parental protection. Their home life was a living hell, but he STILL obstructed any kind of attempt at intervention? Why? I don’t buy that he didn’t want his son to be taken away. Most parents would be looking for a way out of the situation they were in. Most parents would be looking to safeguard the clear risk their child presented to the public.

I just don’t understand it. I was also wondering whether Rudakubana Sr. could be prosecuted for this, although I’m not sure there’s a charge that could really be applied here.

Is the mother also going to be giving evidence?

 

[maytoseptember]

I can’t remember now but was it ever said why he chose that summer club? Was there ever an element of racism or misogyny found?

There’s no way he wasn’t motivated by the fact this was a group of little girls. Not just easy targets but something ideological too. We will never know for sure but it’s a safe bet. Rather like the Manchester Arena bomber choosing the night Ariana Grande was playing, as opposed to another act and a different audience demographic.

 

[Blueblue123]

The dad is admitting to finding a substance we now know was ricin under his son's bed, a jerrycan and hiding a machete... I wonder if he'll get done with hiding a crime or something similar. There's nothing innocent about having weird substances or machetes.

 

[maytoseptember]

I thought it was stated they were a hard working family?? Obviously more bullshit like the Welsh Choirboy

The Welsh choirboy/Children in Need advert kid narrative sure does show itself up for what it was now we know the full details. And then we discover that the cover up fucking started before this atrocity even took place! We are cooked.

 

[thegirlscout]

It’s the same issue coming out in the Nottingham enquiry. Every single authority charged with protecting the public from Valdo Calocane turned a blind eye because he’s black. We really need to face up to the danger anti racism is putting the public in.

Psychotic disorders are up to five times higher in Black Caribbean or African heritage groups. All communities are being failed if they aren’t getting the treatment they need

 

[mousse]

Sorry I meant the brother, those clippings above are abhorrent and I still believe the parents need to be prosecuted

I do feel sympathy for the brother. Any sympathy I might have felt for the parents has vanished reading about them concealing things from CAHMS- anyone who’s ever had the misfortune of dealing with CAHMS will understand that actually getting them to do anything is a miracle!

 

[maytoseptember]

What do you all think about the view that some people have that the parents should have their right to asylum rescinded? It would never happen but I can see why people would want it. They threw the kindness this country showed to them back in its face, didn’t engage with any help and if it was due to their cultural beliefs as some think then it shows they never really integrated.
It would be interesting what protections the state are paying for in regards to them. I would imagine they’d have to change their names since they are mud now.

Personally I think if they had any shame or decency they’d exile themselves, instead of expecting the state to spend an inordinate amount of money protecting them. Go seek asylum somewhere else, on the grounds that it isn’t safe for them to remain in the UK.

 

[thegirlscout]

Asked about the knives, Muzayire begins to cry and says "I hate knives" it's "making me unwell".

She can be heard sobbing before saying: "If you know what we've been going through... the knives."

That family is so selfish - what they’ve been going through?! What about the innocent little girls slaughtered by their butcher of a son?

 

[JamTart]

It annoys me how they play on these people ‘having autism’. They’re mentally unwell people with misogynistic views and being brainwashed by extremist material online. When they mention this new case linked above and AR they link them both having autism but statistically there is nothing to say autistic people are more likely to commit crime than the general population. Sorry just touches a nerve as I have an autistic child who wouldn’t hurt a fly and it feels like they’re being grouped together.
shocked also they’re not charging this new one