Southport Attacks and Aftermath #5

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Whose money was he using to buy a dangerous weapon off Amazon? I very much doubt he had a job. At the very least they should have been monitoring that.

The knife was less than £2. That's not an amount of money that's unaccessible to a teenager and not enough to raise suspicion if he asked his parents for it.
 
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I do think that, if it were not for his age, he’d clearly meet the criteria for a whole life order.
(For a whole life order, the offence must be exceptionally serious e.g. multiple murder, or the murder of a child where there was premeditation or sadistic conduct.)
But as he’s too young for a WLO, where does that leave us in terms of sentencing?
He’ll get the biggest sentence that guidelines allow, and I very much hope he will never, ever get parole.
 
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The knife was less than £2. That's not an amount of money that's unaccessible to a teenager and not enough to raise suspicion if he asked his parents for it.
£2!? For that knife? I thought it was the huge knife we saw that he’d bought on Amazon or am I wrong?
 
I saw an interesting discussion on X the other night - a psychiatrist was saying she thought it was possible AR is psychotic. She said this obviously wasn’t a diagnosis but a hunch, based on his pre-trial behaviour, that mugshot, and her own experience. Apparently it tends to be under diagnosed in young black men (as is schizophrenia apparently).
As far as we know, the defence hasn’t offered any diagnosis in mitigation, which you’d think they would if there’s anything there, but the way he’s been carrying on, I do wonder.
 
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Him shouting is just atrocious, he just wants to do one final tit act towards the families. He knows what he's doing, anything to delay it.
 
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Ultimately he’s responsible but there needs to be some consequences for the departments that were warned of his behaviours. He should have been stopped in his tracks
 
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I saw an interesting discussion on X the other night - a psychiatrist was saying she thought it was possible AR is psychotic. She said this obviously wasn’t a diagnosis but a hunch, based on his pre-trial behaviour, that mugshot, and her own experience. Apparently it tends to be under diagnosed in young black men (as is schizophrenia apparently).
As far as we know, the defence hasn’t offered any diagnosis in mitigation, which you’d think they would if there’s anything there, but the way he’s been carrying on, I do wonder.
Yes, schizophrenia is very undiagnosed in black men. A lot are sectioned or put in prison and not treated properly.
 
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Everything he carried out was in line with the Al Qaeda manual 🤷🏼‍♀️ downloaded three times in 2021
 
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If someone is found to be psychotic in an evaluation, can they choose to have that omitted at trial or sentencing? I’m not saying this murderer is mentally ill or anything. More a general legal thing I know some of you will know about.
 
Nope, you're not wrong. That huge knife was less than £2 on Amazon.
All I’ve done is swear this morning but what the duck? That’s insane. I’d expect about £20+ for that and ID required as well. The fact he could get that so easily and the products for ricin on Amazon is mental. Amazon need to start pulling tit off their platform
 
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All I’ve done is swear this morning but what the duck? That’s insane. I’d expect about £20+ for that and ID required as well. The fact he could get that so easily and the products for ricin on Amazon is mental. Amazon need to start pulling tit off their platform
He used encryption to get past the age restrictions. I thought the courier would have needed to ID him before handing the package over too. Whether that happened or not, that's how easy it was.
 
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The fact I could buy a knife off Amazon right now with no ID check yet I got ID’d in Boots for buying a face cream in a glass jar because ‘it could be used a weapon’ 🙃
 
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He used encryption to get past the age restrictions. I thought the courier would have needed to ID him before handing the package over too. Whether that happened or not, that's how easy it was.
If it was prime they probably threw it over the fence.

At times like this I’m glad of tattle. Sometimes just having somewhere to express this myriad of emotion with likeminded folks is really helpful.
 
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They just said he once contacted childline and asked what he should do if he wants to kill somebody :oops:
 
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He used encryption to get past the age restrictions. I thought the courier would have needed to ID him before handing the package over too. Whether that happened or not, that's how easy it was.
Absolutely ridiculous, there’s honestly no words for how any of this has been allowed to happen. So many missed opportunities to stop him
 
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