I think ‘impose’ is a strong word and there is nothing wrong with people trying to persuade others to their point of view.
Also, it’s called speakers corner for a reason. The clue’s in the name
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Also, it’s called speakers corner for a reason. The clue’s in the name
Isn't it the country where as a Filipino worker they will send you back if you fall pregnant? With mandatory regular pregnancy tests?I'm absolutely sick of how little respect thugs have for the police over here. There's nothing like this in Singapore which is really diverse and multicultural. It works because everyone is expected to follow the law and work together. They even have flogging as a punishment for bad crimes. The result is you can leave your phone on the side it won't be robbed , women can walk at night without fear of being murdered. I never wanted to permanently move there before because I found it a bit too sterile but I've changed my mind.
Law and order is better than this tit show.
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It's fine in Singapore because if you cause trouble you will get punished!
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The UAE are also "safe" but both countries are known for exploiting their foreign workers and treating them like tit. If you are a builder, a nanny or a cleaner those countries are not multicultural heavens either.
I do think we need to get stronger on law and order more generally. I live in a very diverse area and some aspects are great but it has been described by some as lawless and I get what they mean. I saw someone (a man) having a piss actually on a police station and it really brought it home to me how bad things have got. It would never fly in a lot of other countries
The last few days have shown that every country, culture and peoples have their flaws. Including the ones who like to point the finger and sit on their high horses.
You given me a link to something which explains "an enclave is a piece of land belonging to one country (or region etc.) that is totally surrounded by another country (or region).". I'm pretty sure that is not what the person who mentioned 'enclaves' in relation to multiculturalism in the UK was thinking about but perhaps you can enlighten me.A list of enclaves.
Enclave and exclave - Wikipedia
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List of enclaves and exclaves - Wikipedia
Which ones are economic?
I understand that. But you can’t label and report on one without the other. It’s also more than just defending their homes and businesses from the videos circulating online. Both sides are in the wrong.
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As a les that’s scary that you are ok with persuading people to a point of view where people like me would be killed. I like living in a country where I am not killed or persecuted for being myself.
I think that’s quite a big leap to be honest
This is actually one of the reasons the UK is quite attractive to a lot of immigrants; as you point out they can be killer or persecuted for simply who they love. We present as an accepting place to those outside the UK although after the last few days I’m not sure we are anymore
There's a report on BBC news today about how they targeted certain shops and cafes in Belfast. The guy who apparently made the best falafel in Belfast, per a twitter post I shared here a couple of days ago, is interviewed as part of it -
The thing is many far right movements have also disregard for LGBTQ people. They like to talk about the woke virus etc. As a woman having LGBTQ people among my friends I am also scared by those far right movements because of their misogyny and homophobia. When they talk about "taking the country back" they refer to a time where not only minor ethnicities were persecuted but also women and LGBTQ people.
In my view Islamists are also far right. They might be opponents of nationalist but they share a certain amount of disturbing views. In one case it's in the name of Allah and in the other case it's the name of the nation. In muslim countries Islamists are seen as far right as well.
An enclave in that sense is the same thing. It’s where people from a culture tend to congregate so they can live amongst people of their own culture. Such as the “Chinatown’s” in several UK cities. Earls Court in London. Little Italy in New York etc. These areas are ethnic in nature not economic. In my part of the world Chinatown, Newcastle
Chinatown, Newcastle - Wikipedia
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Is a hotch potch, of restaurant owners, nail bars, chefs, waiters, and well to do Chinese students attending the University. Poverty and affluence living together. The only link being the vast majority of residents are Chinese or of Chinese origin.
How is this economic rather than cultural. Perhaps now it’s your turn to enlighten?
Lovely to see the very expensive cars doughnuting and speeding recklessly around roundabouts. Oh, the fun.
Great to see people ‘taking their streets back’, or is that ‘defending their streets’ by going in masked and mob handed and beating old, and not so old men, outside pubs.
We’ve had Zionism (antisemitism) now it’s The Empire’. Who knew.
Great to see people ‘taking their streets back’, or is that ‘defending their streets’ by going in masked and mob handed and beating old, and not so old men, outside pubs.
We’ve had Zionism (antisemitism) now it’s The Empire’. Who knew.
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In the darkness there is always a bit of hope. A fundraiser to help this man get back on his feet has been setup.
Just to let you know the good people of NI have raised over £110k for this man and other businesses affected to get back on their feet. One cafe has set up a temporary premises which has been packed out with customers showing their support. The thugs don’t represent us.
Hi everyone
Hoping to shine a light here I have just been to the supermarket in what I would say is the most diverse part of my nearest town and everything was as it has been for years. People of all cultures and obvious faiths doing their shopping and smiling at people in the aisles who accidentally cut them up. Have faith folks x
Hoping to shine a light here I have just been to the supermarket in what I would say is the most diverse part of my nearest town and everything was as it has been for years. People of all cultures and obvious faiths doing their shopping and smiling at people in the aisles who accidentally cut them up. Have faith folks x
I think the US cannot be compared with the UK. The logic of segregation is very strong and has been for a long time enforced by the government in the USA. Here it more seems like people from a lower economic background seem to live in the same neighborhoods - with a certain level of racial segregation but not of the same level than in american towns. That's one of the main complain from white working clas in the UK : having to live with immigrants (not only 1st generation). People - no matter the ethnic background - seem to move elsewhere if their economic status improve. Sunak, Patel and Braverman don't live in so-called indian neighborhoods for instance.An enclave in that sense is the same thing. It’s where people from a culture tend to congregate so they can live amongst people of their own culture. Such as the “Chinatown’s” in several UK cities. Earls Court in London. Little Italy in New York etc. These areas are ethnic in nature not economic. In my part of the world Chinatown, Newcastle
Chinatown, Newcastle - Wikipedia
Is a hotch potch, of restaurant owners, nail bars, chefs, waiters, and well to do Chinese students attending the University. Poverty and affluence living together. The only link being the vast majority of residents are Chinese or of Chinese origin.
How is this economic rather than cultural. Perhaps now it’s your turn to enlighten?
I think that's partly way there was so little done to tackle grooming gangs. The white female victims were seen as belonging to a low socio-economic background and were disregarded because of it. The elites were not afraid for their own kids. Social class hierarchy is still very alive in the UK no matter the ethnic background.
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Hope this helps them realise how much they are valued as part of the community, it's so sad to see people thinking they're not wanted or welcome.
I hope so too. Customers were spilling on to the streets yesterday
I’ll be making a point of spending my money in these businesses next time I’m in Belfast.Out of interest, has Braverman raised her head yet to make a comment. The original rioters were her core audience so hopefully she now realises that they absolutely dislike her.
I mean, I dislike her as well but please believe me when I say it has absolutely nothing to do with the colour of her skin, rather the darkness of her very small heart.
My sister is autistic and she's just come to see me. She's in a right state from having seen a Twitter post by a police force account which showed a policedog who has an injury from some bleep throwing a brick at him. She was distraught. Autistic girls often feel things very deeply and are hard to console.
I told her that he's going to be fine as he'll get pain killers and people will be giving him lots of treats for being brave, and I sorta managed to calm her down. I was going to say not to read the news, but then this is all over Twitter, Facebook, newspapers in the shops, on the TV and radio. There's no getting away from it.
I feel bad for all the vulnerable people who must be seeing all this horrifying violence in the news and not being able to deal with the sadness and anger across the country.
I don't even know if I agree with the police force account posting the picture. I know with the riots themselves, it's important that we see the reality of what these salt of the Earth people with reasonable concerns are actually doing to other human beings. We shouldn't stick our heads in the sand. But what's the point of an actual police account posting a picture of an injured dog? It seems designed to upset.
I told her that he's going to be fine as he'll get pain killers and people will be giving him lots of treats for being brave, and I sorta managed to calm her down. I was going to say not to read the news, but then this is all over Twitter, Facebook, newspapers in the shops, on the TV and radio. There's no getting away from it.
I feel bad for all the vulnerable people who must be seeing all this horrifying violence in the news and not being able to deal with the sadness and anger across the country.
I don't even know if I agree with the police force account posting the picture. I know with the riots themselves, it's important that we see the reality of what these salt of the Earth people with reasonable concerns are actually doing to other human beings. We shouldn't stick our heads in the sand. But what's the point of an actual police account posting a picture of an injured dog? It seems designed to upset.
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