Why not have a SATC thread, and an And just like that thread?
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Haha …..who knew Samantha was Jewish.
I know she’s supposed to be some sexually liberated feminist vanguard but she just comes off as a simpering Jessica Rabbit (as I rewatch).
I know she’s supposed to be some sexually liberated feminist vanguard but she just comes off as a simpering Jessica Rabbit (as I rewatch).
If you don't practise religion how can you be Jewish? We never once saw Sam do one thing that indicated a Jewish faith, therefore the character was not Jewish!
Jewish is a race, you don’t need to practise the religious side.
I totally hear ya. I agree.
I think he was saying that Sam was absolutely not Jewish and there’s no way she could be mistaken.
No, neither Sam nor Carrie were Jews.
In fact, in the episode where Carrie sees Big going to church with his mother, she specifically says in the voice over that she was brought up in the “church of don’t speak with your mouth full and be nice to people” meaning that she wasn’t religious at all. The character wasn’t Jewish.
In fact, in the episode where Carrie sees Big going to church with his mother, she specifically says in the voice over that she was brought up in the “church of don’t speak with your mouth full and be nice to people” meaning that she wasn’t religious at all. The character wasn’t Jewish.
Jewish is an ethnicity not just a religion. A non practising Jew is still a Jew. Speaking as one. That said I'm blonde and spent most of my 20s and 30s being sex mad (have slowed down over the last few years.) Have known loads of Jews who were blonde, sex mad or both. It's almost like Darren Star is just a big bag of lazy stereotypes... I always found Harry problematic tbh, much as I love the character.
Carrie seemed like she could be Jewish but surely would have talked about it when Charlotte was converting. Samantha I guess could be but again no indication whatsoever in any scripts. Charlotte is the WASPiest of WASPs despite her conversion. And Miranda isn't Irish. Basically they are four WASP women.
Forgive my ignorance, but what is a WASP?
Yes. NYC had a wave of Irish immigrants. However, the Irish are not concentrated in the city.
White Anglo Saxon Protestant. Their image is prim, proper, and exclusive.
Connected and rich. Manhattan WASPs at any rate.
This is a bit of a reach surely? Are people just looking for things to be outraged about?
No one can speak for WG but since he was in the series, I'm going to assume he was happy to film it. He would have received the script before agreeing. Maybe he wasn't bothered, perhaps he was there for the money, perhaps he was there for a good time with his mates. We don't know, so why is anyone upset on his behalf?
Yes, if she was meant to be a stereotype busting Jewish woman they should have made that clear. Even just a throwaway comment as Charlotte was converting would have been something.
Sam was a working class girl. She was a foil to Carrie. We don’t know where Carrie hailed from, but her ingrained admiration for expensive designer shoes points to Long Island.
Charlotte is from Conneticut and I think it's mentioned somewhere that Carrie is too? Miranda is from Philadelphia. I think it's implied that Carrie and Samantha are from quite modest backgrounds. Certainly Samantha says some things that imply that. They came of age in the 80s when there was more social mobility. Their trajectory would be much less likely to happen today. Instead of introducing lots of new characters who are all incredibly privileged, they could have had new, young characters who were struggling to establish themselves in the way that Carrie and co did. That would have been more interesting. They touched on this in the second film with Jennifer Hudson's character but then didn't do anything with it. As someone else said, she was just Carrie's magical Negro. Miranda is trying to turn Nya into that, but at least this time Nya isn't having any of it. Maybe because Louise was Carrie's employee, and Nya is in a superior professional position to Miranda, or maybe because they have actually listened to criticism of the films.
This Irish website staked their claim in Miranda:
Carrie is portrayed as from Connecticut in The Carrie Diaries and she has an Asian-American friend called Jill Chen. She also has a younger sister, which Carrie never ever mentioned in SATC. Talk about continuity…
At one point Stanford says of Carrie, "I knew this woman when she took the subway and wore Candies." I think the expensive shoe habit was acquired after she moved to NY.
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