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caroleffinbaskin

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Kaia’s 18th birthday party was a bit odd. She was all dressed up in bondage gear as a homage to Cindy’s iconic Versace look. The guest list was mainly the parents friends such as Leonardo diCaprio, and the Clooneys. But what was really uncomfortable, was seeing Amanda Lepore, who is a 52year old Transgender model, coming out, naked except for stockings, singing Happy Birthday to a clearly embarrassed Kaia, while everyone else was catcalling and whistling...😬
Weird fuckers
 
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lalalanded

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I mean I was also 10 when the first allegations came out....but the stories about his questionable and unhappy childhood came thick and fast. He had always seemed childlike to this point. So many of my friends and I would have loved to have a pet chimp and live in a theme park. He was soft spoken, and had this non threatening demeanour. The Martin Bashir documentary didn't come until much later, and obviously by then the evidence had mounted.
He was a master groomer - possibly the best ever. Everything you mentioned was the persona he adopted in order to groom children and their parents.
 
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I think that's why I bought into his innocence at first. I really bought that whole he's just trying to relive the childhood he missed out on angle. However it has become more and more obvious that he was not a vulnerable man child, but had grown into a predator.
I think I might be the only person left on earth who still thinks he was somehow mentally trapped in childhood and didn’t do the things he was accused of.
I’ve seen the documentary, and I believe that because of the way he would pick people (Boys) up and drop them when a new favourite came along, that the allegations were borne out of bitterness - they got used to being the centre of his attention and the fame/lifestyle and couldn’t handle it when he ditched them - and that the accusers are so convincing because they’ve been repeating it over and over for so many years.
I’m not even a big MJ fan, and no doubt he was messed up, but I just do not believe that he was an abuser. I don’t think there’s any concrete evidence is there?!
 
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Noseyparker68

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What’s people’s opinion on Micheal Jackson ? Apparently his Neverland mansion is crumbling this article describes him as a monster, I know he has die hard fans because no one made music quite like him but I’m 100% he was a kiddie fiddler.
I love his music, but not him .

Michael Jackson is 100% a diddler. It doesn’t matter that some of his accusers have sought money etc. This is the whole “perfect victim” bullshit where victims have to be saints to be believed. Why the fuck shouldn’t they seek money for what they’ve endured? If they denied themselves millions on principle, they would still be attacked by his deranged fans. The fact is, Jacko paid an absolute fortune out to his accusers, despite the fact this would make him look guilty. Rape victims are rarely believed and he could afford the best PR and legal teams, so he must have been very worried to do that. It’s absurd that he spinned the Jordy Chandler payment as “extortion”; extortion is a crime and Chandler was never accused of it.
That's the bit that freaked me oitv
Jordy also accurately described Jacko’s unique multicoloured penis to the police. The only inaccuracy was he said he was circumcised, which is hard for a child to understand, and tell the difference especially when erect. Jordy’s description was so accurate that the prosecution during the Neverland trial wanted to present the description and police penis photos as evidence, but the defence successfully blocked it under a technicality that it would be “salacious”.

His fans are nuts and would not have believed it even if he had come out and admitted it himself. I remember during the Neverland investigations they found the semen of 4 different males on his bed, one of them belonging to MJ. There was also blood of an unknown male. His fans said that he was so kind, innocent and generous that he was naively letting male friends share his bed 🙄
That's the bit that freaked me out why would a man in his 40s share a bed with a 13 year old boy. It's not natural and loving at all , it's grim . If it had been Billy from up the road they d have him arrested straight away
 
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I think I might be the only person left on earth who still thinks he was somehow mentally trapped in childhood and didn’t do the things he was accused of.
I’ve seen the documentary, and I believe that because of the way he would pick people (Boys) up and drop them when a new favourite came along, that the allegations were borne out of bitterness - they got used to being the centre of his attention and the fame/lifestyle and couldn’t handle it when he ditched them - and that the accusers are so convincing because they’ve been repeating it over and over for so many years.
I’m not even a big MJ fan, and no doubt he was messed up, but I just do not believe that he was an abuser. I don’t think there’s any concrete evidence is there?!
Why did he pay people off?
Why would he risk the justified revulsion of most people thinking he’s a nonce?
It’s funny how his little friends were all the same age and were replaced and dropped, like in immature relationships.
Why didn’t he stay close to them if he loved them platonically and wasn’t usin them?
Same age of a type, no girls
Slept with the kids but it was innocent?
Didn’t defend himself in court?
Porn mags he’d shared with boys
Photos of mutilated dolls, and books of naked boys?
Wasn’t friends with ugly boys?
Fingerprints of him and very young boy on porno mag, abuse in itself
I think I might be the only person left on earth who still thinks he was somehow mentally trapped in childhood and didn’t do the things he was accused of.
I’ve seen the documentary, and I believe that because of the way he would pick people (Boys) up and drop them when a new favourite came along, that the allegations were borne out of bitterness - they got used to being the centre of his attention and the fame/lifestyle and couldn’t handle it when he ditched them - and that the accusers are so convincing because they’ve been repeating it over and over for so many years.
I’m not even a big MJ fan, and no doubt he was messed up but
 
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Won’t you have a cup

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Do you remember the Dutch supermodel, Karen Mulder? She accused her agency boss, and Prince Albert of Monaco, of sexual assault, and then tried to commit suicide. The poor woman wasn’t taken seriously, and was packed off to a psychiatric clinic for 6 months. Thankfully, she seems better now, and has married and had children, but her story is very sad, and just goes to show that you never know what really happens behind closed doors.
Oh the Karen Mulder business was tragic. That poor woman. If I remember correctly, what saved her in the end was her family, who were sensible and normal. Her dad was a tax inspector and her mum had a normal job too. When poor Karen started behaving oddly she was hospitalised for a bit (at the expense of Gerald Marie de Castelbajac, who ran the Elite agency in Paris and whom she had accused of abusing her...it was a secure psychiatric hospital, all the better to keep her quiet, maybe?) then her family took her back to the Netherlands. Her father suggested that one of the factors in her behaviour might have been an eating disorder. I can imagine that if you didn’t eat properly for years, your mental health would suffer. However, I have absolutely no doubt that as a young woman surrounded by exploitative men she suffered many ’me too’ experiences.
 
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The thing is I can totally believe nothing happened to McAuley Culkin, he was a celebrity in his own right with his own manager and team to look out for him whereas all the other children were from families desperate for fame and money and attention which I’m sure would make their children much more vulnerable. If McAuley has been abused and spoken out it would have been questioned, not brushed under the carpet so it would have been far more risky for MJ than the other kids he spent time with.
I’m sure I read an interview years ago, where Macaulay Culkin blamed his drug addiction on his “friendship” with Michael Jackson. I will try and find the article.

The defence of the pay offs being innocent??? I’m a nobody but if I was ever accused of that the liar wouldn’t get a penny from me.
MJ wasn’t a nobody he was the biggest star in the world, with access to the best lawyers, PR etc
So all these people looked at the evidence and decided he had to pay.

I’ve heard people say he didn’t want the publicity? So it’s better to look like a weirdo?

Take away all the fake persona of a fey childlike man, you have a shrewd businessman who knew he had to shut the kids up

MJ didn’t love kids he loved young boys and slept with them, showed them porno mags and apparently his distinctive willy too, a shrewd man which he was wouldn’t risk all that unless a base sexual instinct was being satisfied.
A gentle loving person wouldn’t have creepy photos of a doll representing Jon B e n e t a murdered child
Photos of. naked boys?

Has there ever been a case where someone acted like this and did this and people thought he was innocent?

Would anyone let Tom Dick or Harry have their 11 year old boy sleep with him.
MJ groomed the public like Saville did,
he too had a wacky oddball persona
This..👏👏👏. Well said ❤
 
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caroleffinbaskin

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Yes I think everyone knows she's a cunt but we were talking about beauty, and in terms of looks she's stunning, and still booking top jobs, alot of these 90s supermodels could only dream of doing that now and going by reports on here alot of the rest of the supermodel gang sound like cunts too so dont see why Naomi has been singled out.
I didn’t “single out” Naomi at all. I’ve put bitchy comments about loads of people (including supermodels), sometimes in context, mostly not. It’s what I like to do, it’s fun, just like this site. Don’t try making this into something it isn’t.
 
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James Blunt is denying it now, he reckons Ed was drunk and messing around and cut his own face, seems a bit odd to me.
He's just getting his toadying in for a K.
I had something infiltrate my newsfeed from "This Morning" which I won't watch as it encourages them.
Phil "it was completely my decision to come out....don't put that coffee down there, you'll get a ring on my superinjunction. I'm a mentor SChofield, was taking Lady Colin to task about gossiping bout the Royal Family.
He thinks he's going to get a trip to the place. Is there no end to this mans self delusion.
 
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Lalla

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On the other side of the coin, when I lived in Cardiff we’d often see Doctor Who filming, and David Tennant was a delight.
I love David Tennant, he was so perfect as the Doctor :love: I am glad no one has said anything horrible about him!
 
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Wildrosesez

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I wonder is there more than this. I wonder was he abused himself ?
It’s hugely complicated but would his father have pimped some or all of them for success ?
His plastic surgery seemed to come from self hatred and trying to erase his face ?
Can’t remember where I read this now, if it was his autobiography or one of his rare interviews, but I do recall him saying once that even after loads of surgery, he’d look in the mirror and see his father looking back at him. Or something to that effect. (Not that he said loads of surgery as till the end he denied having as much work done as he clearly had, I just mean by the time he said it he had clearly had a lot done)
Was a massive fan of him for years, even have tattoos. Once he died and the previously unreleased music tapered off, the spell kind of broke for me as there was no new content. I’ve chosen to just distance myself from it all and try to just enjoy his music and separate it from the person - ten years ago I would have been one of the rabid fans defending him, now I am forced to accept that he was almost certainly an abuser. I can see why a lot of fans choose to not see this, especially as it doesn’t directly affect them as victims.
 
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Very traditional

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Does anyone know what the hell is up with Cindy Crawford's son? He is stunning, incredible bone structure (naturally) and working as a model and then.................... he seems to have lost the plot. He's now tattooed his face and is gangsta posing (he's from Malibu!!). Doesn't seem like either Cindy or her husband say much about him on their social media.
I read somewhere that he didn’t want to be a model and was pushed in to it by his parents and the speculation was that he was making himself less perfect model looking with his awful tattoos (either consciously or subconsciously) so that he would get less bookings but he wouldn’t have to be the one to say to his parents that he didn’t want to do it. No clue how true that is but you’re right he was absolutely stunning looking!
 
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Missmopps

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A while back James Corden said Pierce Brisbane was the rudest celebrity he had come across. It was during that game he plays with a celebrity where you either answer the question or eat some awful food concoction.
There was a article in the dm about it and the comments were brilliant. So many people that had met Pierce only had good things to say. There was a lot of love for Pierce.


Brosnan dam auto
Corden has such a bad reputation for being a thundercunt that I wouldn’t believe a word he said especially against Pierce Brosnan who has such a reputation for being the consummate professional and gentleman to boot. Something JC will never have.
 
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I was nosing about him today as he is rather dashing, he married his 2nd wife Amanda something and they split up as he didn't want kids and at 32 she did, surely they must have discussed that before getting married. Wonder if he decided against it after getting his leg over with a pretty young lass 🤷‍♀️



Everytime I see someone posting about his slim, slender appendage it reminds me of an ex. I always thought of him as having a fish bone appendage as it felt weird and skinny. It didn't last as he was seeing other girls 🙈🙈
Yeah, Jack Whitehall’s pencil dick has been the subject of many posts..✏ I wonder if he ever reads here 😉😂😂😂.
 
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Beverley Macker

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Calling someone a “Disgusting Rapist” is a pretty serious allegation. Where are the links to this story? Where are the names? Do you have anything to back your allegations up? 🤔


Ah, poor John Belushi, died in a hotel room of a heroin and coke OD, I loved him in The Blues Brothers, such a sad story...And Jim Carey isn’t anywhere as popular as he used to be, even though he was cleared of having anything to do with his Ex-Girlfriend’s death, it must be so hard to go from amazing films like The Truman Show, and that level of fame, to basically having to start all over again.
He might well have not had anything to do with her death officially, but he treated that poor girl like something he couldn’t be wait to scrape off his shoe, soon as she suspected she had been infected with herpes.
Those text messages proved what sort of man he is, so I’ll reserve my pity for someone actually deserving of a second shot at a career.
 
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FreeSquirrels

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A friend’s husband was at the same gym as Mick in Chicago when the Stones were touring & said seeing naked Mick on the scales shattered all his illusions. 🤣.
 
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Bette21

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A friend of mine heckled Reginald D Hunter when he made a rape joke. He then went and complained about her on Twitter. I’d thought he was one of the good guys.

She tweeted back at him and obviously got the usual pile of disgusting stuff from the incels on there as a result.

Anyone who hasn’t already should watch Nanette on Netflix. It’s an amazing stand up show by Hannah Gadsby, an Australian comedian. It goes far deeper than comedy though. It made me cry and my husband said he’d forgotten to breathe in some places. I think that Douglas, her next one, is also on there too. She talks a LOT about misogyny, and Louis CK is one of her bugbears.



Juno Dawson’s novel Meat Market is about the modelling industry, based on a lot of interviews. There’s a character in it that’s obviously based on Karen Mulder.
I went to see Reginald D Hunter about a year ago, it was the kind of set where he was testing out new material, and I found a lot of it quite uncomfortable and he seemed very angry about women. Went on a few rants about being called sexist, but then made sexist comments. I think he even mentioned your friend.
 
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