This was the original reason why I went on instagram last night. 50 is at it again. Seriously what has she done with her arse!
I feel like 50 Cent should be a Tattler, he’d fit right in here.This was the original reason why I went on instagram last night. 50 is at it again. Seriously what has she done with her arse!
I think Seinfeld, Father Ted, some elements of Ab Fab, SATC, Alan Patridge. I could name lots more.Could you name at least one? Everything filmed prior to the last 10-15 years looks dated, in my opinion. Pre-2010 you could still see real people on screen. After that, everything became glossy.
I think Friends hold up pretty well compared to many shows that were considered revolutionary back in the day, such as Ally McBeal, 30 Rock, Arrested Development. And I know many people in their twenties who are Friends fans and watch it on the loop.
Re: Mathew Perry, I remember his father from that episode in Friends he was in, but I wouldn’t recognise him now. Also, his father and his step father look so much alike, they could be the same person
Perhaps it’s a nappy - I’m a good few years younger than Madonna and the chances of me getting out of that catsuit in a hurry for a quick pee between songs is non-existent. And I need to go a lot more often than in my younger daysThis was the original reason why I went on instagram last night. 50 is at it again. Seriously what has she done with her arse!
aspects of SATC have not dated well at all though. there’s a whole episode around how carrie and miranda don’t think bisexuality is a thing.I think Seinfeld, Father Ted, some elements of Ab Fab, SATC, Alan Patridge. I could name lots more.
I’m not saying parts of them don’t look dated - but it’s about the humour being hilarious to this day, and not feeling a bit “eek, you couldn’t say that now”
The 'new' stuff that's on now will look dated and inappropriate in 20 years time.That's the thing it may seem dated now but at the time it felt very fresh and new.
I love SATC for Samantha, Carrie irritated and still does irritate the duck out of me. If Samantha wasn’t in that show it would be boring as duck.aspects of SATC have not dated well at all though. there’s a whole episode around how carrie and miranda don’t think bisexuality is a thing.
seinfeld absolutely has “you couldn’t say that now” moments too. elaine tries to “convert” a gay man! jerry literally drugs one of his girlfriends! they have a whole episode about puerto rico that was so offensive that nbc pulled it!
this is just why looking at 30+ year old sitcoms through modern eyes never goes well. they ALL have problematic points and storylines. just take them for what they are in the time they were made.
I’ve been reading these comments, and I feel similar to you. If you take the lesbians/gay wedding storyline - you didn’t really see that sort of thing even acknowledged back then so much, let alone in a comedy show as a key storyline. They featured it and made jokes about it, as they did with all their storylines, but at least they featured it in the first place, which a lot of other shows didn’t.I’m prob going to get shot down for this but I always thought friends was actually AHEAD of it’s time. We had Carol and Susan as a married lesbian couple which in the 90s was a big deal, Ross coparenting with them, phoebes surrogacy, chandlers dad who was trans, Joeys advertising campaign where he had syphilis, Ross’ breakdown where he had to take a leave of absence, Rachels #MeToo moment when she misconstrues having pen on her face and turns down a job thinking her boss wants sexual favours. Yes, the jokes have not aged well when you look back through todays lens where everyone takes umbrage over every little thing, but I think give friends credit where credit is due. We all laughed at the time and you can’t mistake the fact that friends provided so much joy and comfort to so so many people.
Rest in peace Matthew, x
That was my first thought. People forget that you shouldn't use jacuzzi's if you have a heart condition or at least not for an extended time.Wonder if he had heart issues due to the years of abuse. You need to be careful with hot temperatures like Jacuzzis etc if you have heart issues
100%. And people need to remember that at the time, gay marriage was not legally recognised anywhere in the world.I’ve been reading these comments, and I feel similar to you. If you take the lesbians/gay wedding storyline - you didn’t really see that sort of thing even acknowledged back then so much, let alone in a comedy show as a key storyline. They featured it and made jokes about it, as they did with all their storylines, but at least they featured it in the first place, which a lot of other shows didn’t.
These things are now seen (rightly so) as ‘normal’ now in tv, ie not even worth acknowledging as different. So comparing it to how it would be made these days is unfair, when the reality is, compared to what else was out there at the time, they were doing pretty well.
Definitely agree.I’m prob going to get shot down for this but I always thought friends was actually AHEAD of it’s time. We had Carol and Susan as a married lesbian couple which in the 90s was a big deal, Ross coparenting with them, phoebes surrogacy, chandlers dad who was trans, Joeys advertising campaign where he had syphilis, Ross’ breakdown where he had to take a leave of absence, Rachels #MeToo moment when she misconstrues having pen on her face and turns down a job thinking her boss wants sexual favours. Yes, the jokes have not aged well when you look back through todays lens where everyone takes umbrage over every little thing, but I think give friends credit where credit is due. We all laughed at the time and you can’t mistake the fact that friends provided so much joy and comfort to so so many people.
Rest in peace Matthew, x
You have put into words everything that I couldn't say.I quite recently read his book. He came across as incredibly sad. That was all I could think. He also knew how lucky he was to be able to buy the fabulous houses etc. But he was alone and you could really sense how empty he felt. He desperately wanted a family and to have a life of family things and he knew he was a bit of an hole and that he’d screwed up many chances he had of love and a family of his own. He dwelled on that and I found it quite self indulgent, but I think he was just so sad he couldn’t be anything else. Book was definitely not ghost written. He could have had a family, he wasn’t too old to have found someone, got some dogs and live a healthy and fulfilling life. His demons must have just made that impossible, which is awful. It’s such sad news to wake up to today.
i'm also recalling the manny Ross and Rachel had. Phoebe's gay husband and the way they portrayed Phoebe's homeless past not pitying her or playing it for laughs but quietly depicting the fact that it is possible to go through something like that and come out stronger. i cried so much at her happy ending.I’m prob going to get shot down for this but I always thought friends was actually AHEAD of it’s time. We had Carol and Susan as a married lesbian couple which in the 90s was a big deal, Ross coparenting with them, phoebes surrogacy, chandlers dad who was trans, Joeys advertising campaign where he had syphilis, Ross’ breakdown where he had to take a leave of absence, Rachels #MeToo moment when she misconstrues having pen on her face and turns down a job thinking her boss wants sexual favours. Yes, the jokes have not aged well when you look back through todays lens where everyone takes umbrage over every little thing, but I think give friends credit where credit is due. We all laughed at the time and you can’t mistake the fact that friends provided so much joy and comfort to so so many people.
Rest in peace Matthew, x
Thanks for posting that beautiful quote. It’s such a sad day. Matthew had his flaws but he was trying to beat his demons which was no mean feat. It is clear he helped a number of people with their own addiction.Threads probably moved on by now but just found this on FB from an author I follow
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i'm also recalling the manny Ross and Rachel had. Phoebe's gay husband and the way they portrayed Phoebe's homeless past not pitying her or playing it for laughs but quietly depicting the fact that it is possible to go through something like that and come out stronger. i cried so much at her happy ending.
Yes, if you're of a certain age, "Friends" is just a part of your life, isn't it? We still use the catchphrases all the time, and it's one of those shows that when you flick through the channels and you land on "Friends", you just keep watching, it doesn't really get old.I’m really sad about Matthew Perry - I know it’s just a programme but probably haven’t gone a week without watching friends since it came out back in 1994 and he was always my favourite character.
He sleeps with the fishesI wouldn’t leave him alone with my fish tbh.
As proven by the utter shitshow that is And Just Like That!I love SATC for Samantha, Carrie irritated and still does irritate the duck out of me. If Samantha wasn’t in that show it would be boring as duck.
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