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LilPinkie

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I agree with you.

Regarding J Epstein - some of the girls that said they were abused by him were 17 and so how can that be abuse when they willingly went back to his after sleeping with him and getting the money, that’s not abuse, that’s prostitution.

Is the legal age in FL 18? Were they all under 18?
I suggest you watch the Netflix doc. Sex trafficking IS abuse.
 
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eyeballs

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What’s with all the random semi nude pictures of women who I don’t know and with no examination?!
 
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BasilRathbon

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Another potential new lead zzzzzz After more money no doubt 🙄🙄🙄
Here we go again, looks like the Find Madeleine charity is running short of funds and the McCann's need a top up to help pay off their mortgage.

If the Police are still looking for suspects I wonder have they thought of questioning a wealthy middle class couple from Leicestershire?
 
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lamaitresse

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Re Trudie Styler - from "My Sister Madonna" (by her brother, Christopher Ciccone). This quote always struck me as rather odd, especially when said to a gay man.
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And I agree with the above. I re-watched Channel 4's Dispatches The Prince And The Paedophile documentary recently, and the stories about some of the young girls is heartbreaking. To tar them all with the same brush is ignorant at best and condoning the abusers at worst.

Yes, some people know how to manipulate others - but, seriously? 14, 15 year old girls? You don't have a clue at that age, even if you appear uber-confident and worldly-wise to the outside world. You just don't. You're not emotionally mature enough. These girls were chosen from neglectful, poverty-stricken, desperate backgrounds by rich, powerful men for a REASON. Some of them couldn't even speak English.

It dismays me to see other women judging these victims without thinking. But maybe some commenters don't know the full story. I hope.
 
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And some more..
After the Jermaine incident, I didn’t go back to Radio 1, but started hanging around a recording studio called ZZT in Ladbroke Grove. This was where Frankie Goes To Hollywood used to record their album (welcome to the pleasuredome) but at the time I met them, they had just recorded Two Tribes, and I was madly in love with the bass player Mark O’Toole. So, after hanging around these studios, I met them, and Mark took a shine to me, and sneaked me into TOTP when they were doing Two Tribes, and I even spent the night (although nothing happened) at their apartment in St.Mary’s Mansions, Maida Vale. Mark, Ped (the drummer) and Nasher (guitarist) shared the flat, and Holly Johnson and Paul Rutherford lived elsewhere. I used to ring Mark from a phone box in my school lunch hour, all my mates would cram into the smelly phone box, trying to listen to Mark talking to me. One day though, I met a girl called Debbie, who was a superfan like me. She told me that Mark had taken her virginity in the recording studio, on a grand piano, and apparently, it had been recorded, and was used on the Pleasuredome album, it’s a song called the ballad of 69, and you can hear Debbie whispering encouragement to Mark, and she also said that my voice was at the beginning of the song, as they used to record the fans who rung the studio all the time to see if the “Lads” were there!! I must add that Debbie was 17 when she slept with Mark, and after that, I never bothered going up to Ladbroke Grove to the studio again. If anyone remembers the video to Band Aid’s “Do they know it’s Christmas”, that was filmed at ZTT studios, it was owned by Trevor Horn, who was the producer behind all the Frankie hits. It’s funny, but I was listening to Two Tribes the other day, and it brought it all back to me, so I thought I’d share my story. ❤
 
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Gym&Tonic

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I had no idea that Bradley Walsh had an affair with Debra Stephenson! That’s a new one on me. Their characters were married in Corrie and they were involved in some big storylines, so to airbrush her out is a bit strange. Though come to think it it’s a bit strange that ITV made a programme celebrating his 60th birthday, who gives a shit really?He presents The Chase, but so what? Pointless is better anyway.

God help us when Schofield turns 60. That’ll be like the second coming, with wall to wall coverage of the momentous occasion🤢
 
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Peachy9

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I don’t believe that at all. Looking up images of Caprice, her hands and feet are normal sized, as are her shoulders. She has a natural female body shape with a good waist to hip ratio, something that is extremely difficult to obtain for transwomen. And when they do manage it, it’s via fat transfers that don’t look quite right.

Most of all, like all women, when her arms are in a neutral position hanging by her sides, her inner elbows face fully forwards. Whereas men’s inner elbows face somewhat inwards. This is impossible to change or fake, and not many people even know that this difference exists.

Caprice is an easy target for transgender rumours due to her obvious breast implants and facial surgery, as well as being secretive about her early life, but allegedly this is due to her lying about her age, not being male!
That elbow fact is the biggest tea I've ever read here. Love that fact! 😍
 
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Ginger_roots

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Can you even begin to imagine the horrors in that family? Wasn't Saville obsessed with his mother in a Psycho type way? I can imagine she's responsible for her vile offspring's deviance.
I have wondered if he was abused by his mum. After she died he kept her body with him for a further 5 days and always waxed lyrical about them being the happiest days of his life. It was also suggested that he dressed other corpses in his dead mother's clothes and then had sex with them.

I sometimes feel like Savile's name gets bandied about on these sites too freely and it almost reduces what a monster he really was and creates a caricature. He sexually abused hundreds of children. He was even seen escorting the body of a 4 year old child to the mortuary and what he did afterwards is unthinkable. Imagine if that was your child? You'd probably never know if he you had lost your child and whether or not he had got his hands on their body. You'd spend all your time wondering without any closure. I hate talking about the man and I hate reading about him.
 
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Ginger_roots

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I don't care who you are, you will never beat the David's dead saga on Celeb Big Brother. It's the only clip of BB or CBB I've ever sought out and rewatched multiple times. Plus it has Tiffany calling Gemma Collins a fat cunt. Plus it has John Partridge being overly intense all the time. Plus Darren Day being completely obsessed with *not* being portrayed as a love rat. Aaaah. Happy days.
 
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Miss_Moo

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Can we have a separate thread for social media photos? I don’t know who most of the people are who are pictured and it’s not really gossip.
 
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darkcherry14k

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When the NBA star Kobe Bryant, and his young daughter Gianna tragically died in a helicopter crash a few months ago, many people were shocked and saddened. None more so than Kim Kardashian, who had been having a long and passionate affair with him. Kim wanted to leave Kanye, they had not been getting along for some time - and she saw Kobe as a strong and wealthy guy who would take care of her, and the fact that Kobe was so loved by his fans, would help with her image, as she was sick of being seen as just a clothes horse for Kanye’s often laughable fashion choices. Anyway- the story was that Vanessa, (Kobe’s wife) had found out about the affair, and went to confront Kim about it. But the real tea, was that Kim’s last baby, a boy called Psalm, who was born to a surrogate, wasn’t convinced using Kanye’s sperm, but infact was conceived using Kobe’s sperm!!. Kobe was going to leave Vanessa for Kim, and then the helicopter crash happened, and Kim was devastated. Also the only sister who knew what was going on, was Kourtney, and she did not agree with what Kim was doing (going after a married man) which was the real reason that they fell out so spectacularly. As for Kris, well, she made sure that Kim made a very public tribute to Kobe and Gianna, and poor Vanessa had to keep quiet in order to preserve her late husband and daughters memory. But that still leaves baby psalm. Look at pictures of Kobe and Psalm, two peas in a pod. Kanye apparently knows, but won’t leave Kim as he does love her in his own way, and he would never want to be parted from his kids, even the one that isn’t his.!! Kim never changes does she 😉

Edit to add - Concieved not Convinced !!
Kim and Kourtney fell out long before Kobe died. Psalm looks like the rest of the kids, doesn't look anything like Kobe and I doubt a fertility clinic would be swapping sperm and I doubt Kobe would be looking to have a baby with his mistress via surrogate not long after having another baby with his wife.

It's a no from me on this one.
 
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Bitofthebubbly

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I do know what it is because I was an escort for god sake! The people I worked for were charged yet none of us were abused!

You are ignoring what I’ve said, be disgusted all you like but I’ve emphasised what I mean over and over and yet you see what you want to see.

Some were victims but I don’t believe they all were.


Sexual exploitation is seen as someone making money from hookers, that’s what agencies do but it’s not abuse if you are legal and consent!

Anyway I’m sick of saying my piece over and over and being ignored so I’m leaving this here.
Shut up you are clueless. Absolutely clueless. Escorting is NOT the same as being trafficked although many trafficked women can end up in escorting/prostitution as a result. You may have been an escort yourself but that doesn’t make you an expert when it comes to trafficking.

Sorry I just caught up on a few posts.. I completely agree you CAN be a victim at at any age definitely. But I just saw a few people jumping on angry bird but for some of the girls in the documentary unfortunately his actions with them was not illegal.

The law HAS to draw the line somewhere or we would never get anywhere in terms of legal prosecutions etc.
Rape is illegal no matter the age and I don’t doubt he raped those women. Giving them money and nice things doesn’t suddenly make it not rape! They were coerced. He was a very manipulative and charismatic man.

Adults can be manipulated and abused, they may not be a susceptible to it as children but they can still be targeted especially if they were vulnerable or had had a difficult upbringing. I have sympathy for every woman and girl who ever came into contact with him and his creepy little rich friends. These were women and girls who had nothing, had never had anything, and now were suddenly offered the world before realising the things they’d be subjected to do for that. They were all done over by him in some way. The money he gave them was pennies to him and he had plenty of it so could use as many women and girls as he liked. Nasty manipulative awful man can’t stand to see people defending him even slightly.
 
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This all happened a long time ago, but friends of mine used to visit Ronnie Kray in Broadmoor. He always had the same request, 4 cans of non-alcoholic Barbican larger, 200 unfiltered fags, and chocolate biscuits. So, they go in and hand the goodies to the screws, and then make their way over to where Ronnie is sitting. They ask how he is - Ron replies “Smashing”, Ron then calls over a waiting lackey and asks for tea and biscuits for everyone including Peter Sutcliffe who is sitting on his own at a corner table. My friend said “Fuck me Ron, don’t get that bastard anything! He’s murdered all those poor women”. Ron looks annoyed, he doesn’t like being challenged, but then says to the waiting lackey “Yeah leave Peter out, he’s a cunt”. Then my mate says to Ron, “What you going to do when you get out?” Ron replies, “Well I quite like being in here, they treat me very well, but I’d like to go on a world cruise, then I’d go back home, kill a few cunts, then I’d come back here”. My friends asked Ron how the script was for the Krays film, Ron replies “I ain’t happy with that fucking Roger Daltry, he don’t answer the phone to me, so I want you boys to do me a favour, tell Daltry I want to see him, kid him along, and bring him down here, then I will do him under the table with a knife”!!! My mates just said “Ok Ron, will do”, of course, nothing happened to Roger Daltry, and the film The Krays was made with the Kemp brothers. But Ronnie made it clear that he hated the film!! And my friends carried on visiting Ronnie up until his death, but what a fruit and nut case!!! 🤪😂
 
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MissTeddy

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Glad I went to uni in the early 90s. There was a lot of hope in the UK in that decade. I pity the poor feckers growing up in these times.
I went to Manchester Uni in 1994, it was a truly hedonistic, wonderful time to be alive. No mobiles, no email, no social media - complete freedom and no evidence of all our past Sins !
 
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WallacesDog

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Seriously...
I tried to be civil, almost humorous.
Now come on.....Saville and what he did to dead kids?
Madeleine McCann?



Simply 👏🏻 not 👏🏻 gossip!
This is not the place.



There's a lovely forum here for you to discuss abuse, abduction, Epstein etc

The Mods have even made it simple;

The clue is in the title...
https://tattle.life/forums/off-topic.7/

Off Topic 👋🏼
 
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WallacesDog

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Ewwww, his fat, too big for his mouth, tongue is all I can see when I look at him.
This has nothing to do with anything.... but your post just reminded me of an awful recurring dream i used to have as a kid of my tongue getting bigger and bigger in my mouth, it was so vivid and always made me wake up in a panic....
Now I know why watching JO stresses me out 🤔 🤪 👅

@TheJoanCollinsFanClub wow! Now that is proper gossip! Cannot stand caprice
I am now a member of the @TheJoanCollinsFanClub Fan Club!!!! 🏅
Love this.
You've really made me chuckle when needed it.
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That elbow fact is the biggest tea I've ever read here. Love that fact! 😍
I've just checked and my elbows point in different directions !?! 😳🤔🤭 I don't know if I'm Arthur or Martha, now.....
 
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