Secret Celebrity Gossip #14

[Bitofthebubbly]

Totally and I hope the authorities see through this, plus some of them looked happy enough in pics to be in his helicopter etc and Virginia Roberts looked about 20 in her pic with Prince Andrew, they weren’t all vulnerable like its been reported.

Can we stop the victim blaming? Being over 16 doesn’t mean you’re suddenly immune to being groomed and exploited, which is exactly what happened to every single one of those girls. I’m quite disgusted at the turn this conversation has taken. People are almost excusing Epstein’s behaviour because the girls went back to him? Epstein was a scumbag who used his money and power to exploit hundreds of women and girls all over the world. Just because they looked happy in a couple of pics doesn’t mean anything. It’s called grooming for a reason and he preyed on girls from disadvantaged backgrounds which adds to their vulnerability. Sent people round high schools to ‘recruit’ them ffs. The first time they went to his place they didn’t know what to expect, he hired private investigators to threaten and stalk his victims if they spoke out. Being of a certain age doesn’t make you immune from certain types of abuse, r-kelly basically kept women prisoner in his mansion for years, they were mostly over 18 so technically adults Although the grooming started sooner, the parents couldn’t do shit to help them and he used this to his advantage. Heck, there was even one women speaking out on the r-kelly documentary who was older and even she suffered at his hands.

To say how can 17 year olds claim abuse because they went back to him just shows a complete lack of understanding of the situation these girls found themselves in. He was a powerful, manipulative rich man who could talk the talk AND walk the walk. He tricked teenage girls into thinking he loved them and he going to marry them so he could sexually exploit and abuse them and I can’t sit here and read comments implying they’re not really victims and not say anything, what’s been said about these victims is truly shameful.

 

[TheJoanCollinsFanClub]

My friend used to work for a very upmarket beauty salon in Mayfair called Janette Ginnings. They had a few celeb clients like Britt Ekland, and also Sally Farmilo (who had an affair with Jeffrey Archer) And then there was Caprice Bourret. This was the early noughties, and Caprice had arrived in the UK from California in order to make a name for herself, and that meant going to any and every party going, as long as it meant her pic would get in the papers the next day. Well, my friend started to do her hair extensions (Great Lengths), and also her facials. My friend said that all Caprice would talk about was Rod Stewart, and how she could “get” him. But there was something “off” about her, something not quite right. Everything became clear when my friend went to Caprice’s house to do her hair for some premier she was attending that night. While Caprice was sorting her outfit out, my friend went to her kitchen for a drink, and there next to the fridge, was what looked like a passport, my friend being a tad nosey, had a quick peek - and nearly dropped his glass!!, because the passport WAS Caprice’s, but it said very clearly, that Caprice was Infact a MAN. My friend said after seeing that, everything fell into place, for instance, before Caprice got laser to permanently remove facial hair, my friend said sometimes doing her facials, he would see the beginnings of a 5o’clock shadow, she had hands like shovels, and her feet were HUGE. Caprice obvs had surgery in the U.S before she came here, but her passport had not been changed!! Apparently Rod Stewart dumped her after a few dates, rumour is that he found out her secret, and for whatever reason didn’t want to continue seeing her. My friend told me that when Caprice met Ty Comfort, he really wanted kids, and so a surrogate was used, and then the story Caprice put out, was that she fell pregnant naturally at the same time her surrogate was pregnant. That is the “official” story....However the REAL story was that they used 2 surrogates, but were very shocked when both fell pregnant as the second surrogate was basically a backup. So Caprice got one of those “moon bumps” and faked her pregnancy!! My friend also mentioned DOI, and wasn’t suprised by Caprice acting up and saying she was bullied by her pro partner. According to my friend, Caprice is extremely bad tempered, used to phone the paps whenever she was out, and got a junior sacked for getting a lunch order wrong. What a bitch!!

 

[PrincessCharming]

I would think having a big wet mouth is an advantage when having an affair with a lady in her 50s...

...I’ll get my coat.

 

[lamaitresse]

Trafficking means taking an escort from one place to the other, it’s not abuse and I know this because I worked for an agency that got busted and they were charged with trafficking which meant that their drivers were taking us from one job to the next, that’s not abuse. Lots of people get confused with what trafficking actually is. Some trafficking is abuse when it’s against somebody’s will but not if they go willingly and they are of legal age.

I don’t doubt that he abused girls but if they were legal and consented then it’s not.

I'm gobsmacked by the ignorance shown here.

There are similarities with the Rotherham scandal, but with rich, powerful men who could act out in secret, in cliques, and use their influence to get a lighter prison sentence (for his first jail term, Epstein spent most of his daytime hours... in his own office!!).

Maybe you don't know what sex trafficking actually means, but you're beginning to sound as though you don't think any crimes were committed, the young girls were cool with being degraded and abused, as long as the money rolled in.

You can still be raped, coerced, cut off from the people you love, if you are of legal age.

I won't say any more on this, but this disgusts me.

 

[DCICassieStuart]

I'm just wondering if we could leave the Kardashians to the thread that's actually dedicated to them

I have no interest in them to be honest, and I'm sure that some others would agree with me.

When they already have a thread of their own they really should stay over there because they just seem to be taking over this one.

 

[TheJoanCollinsFanClub]

Dan Osbourne makes me feel physically sick. There is something very 'off' about him.

You are quite right about the vile Dan Osbourne. He’s got a reputation for cheating on every girl he’s ever been with. Also rumours are that he has beaten up several ex-girlfriends. Fucking prick.

Years ago I used to go to Faces nightclub in Gants Hill. One Saturday night, me and my pals spotted David Beckham’s sister Joanne, she was trying desperately to flirt with Callum Best, who looked bored and was scanning the club looking for other girls to chat up. Me and my girlfriends got into the roped off VIP section, and next minute a tap on my shoulder, it was Callum, who decided to make a run for it from Joanne. Callum bought me a few drinks and although I was single at the time, and he was very pretty with amazing blue eyes, he was incredibly arrogant, and when he asked me to go back to his flat I promptly fucked him off, and said that I was leaving with my friends. He wasn’t happy and started grabbing my arm, one of the bouncers on the VIP section had to get in his face and tell him to stop. And all the time Joanne Beckham was giving me the filthiest looks imaginable!! Funnily enough, a few years later, I bumped into Joanne in Happy Nails in Epping, she didn’t remember me, and we got chatting, she told me that David had bought her and her mum Sandra a new build house in a little gated development off Tidys Lane and Granville Road, Epping. She was talking about her hairdressing job in HOB Salon In Loughton, (And contrary to popular belief- David didnt buy her a salon, she just worked there as a stylist) So we got quite friendly and used to see eachother at the nail bar once a week, and she even bought me an expensive nail polish after i was admiring hers. Always used to see Sandra at the nail bar as well, she used to go over the road to Marks & Spencer’s wearing flip flops after having her weekly pedicure and this was in the middle of winter, so she looked funny, but she didn’t care! They moved a few years ago, but Joanne was desperate to move to LA, but she said that she and her mum didn’t get on that well with Victoria. I really liked Joanne, and I often wonder how she’s getting on, and no, I never mentioned Callum!!...

 

[LilPinkie]

Can we stop the victim blaming? Being over 16 doesn’t mean you’re suddenly immune to being groomed and exploited, which is exactly what happened to every single one of those girls. I’m quite disgusted at the turn this conversation has taken. People are almost excusing Epstein’s behaviour because the girls went back to him? Epstein was a scumbag who used his money and power to exploit hundreds of women and girls all over the world. Just because they looked happy in a couple of pics doesn’t mean anything. It’s called grooming for a reason and he preyed on girls from disadvantaged backgrounds which adds to their vulnerability. Sent people round high schools to ‘recruit’ them ffs. The first time they went to his place they didn’t know what to expect, he hired private investigators to threaten and stalk his victims if they spoke out. Being of a certain age doesn’t make you immune from certain types of abuse, r-kelly basically kept women prisoner in his mansion for years, they were mostly over 18 so technically adults Although the grooming started sooner, the parents couldn’t do shit to help them and he used this to his advantage. Heck, there was even one women speaking out on the r-kelly documentary who was older and even she suffered at his hands.

To say how can 17 year olds claim abuse because they went back to him just shows a complete lack of understanding of the situation these girls found themselves in. He was a powerful, manipulative rich man who could talk the talk AND walk the walk. He tricked teenage girls into thinking he loved them and he going to marry them so he could sexually exploit and abuse them and I can’t sit here and read comments implying they’re not really victims and not say anything.

Thank you! Someone talking sense. Sex trafficking is not prostitution.

 

[caroleffinbaskin]

Let’s leave the sexual abuse talk now please. This is not the place and it could trigger some people.

 

[Lovegin]

Similar vibes to the parents of the girls who were abused by R Kelly.

Same with Michael Jackson but the women who were offering babies to the lost prophet singer deserve a special place in hell along with him

There really needs to be a separate thread for ‘darker‘ topics and politics, they are getting in the way gossip about which celebs have slender cocks and about who snorts coke

 

[NB14]

Met up with my neighbours nephew at Christmas time and he told me that his Mums friend (in her early 50’s) was having a full blown affair with Jamie Oliver! She lived over the road and would regularly see him arrive and leave the next morning! Was going on for years apparently and was an open secret on the estate.

 

[WallacesDog]

Exactly lol. Back to shagging Jamie Oliver!! Or not x

Yes
look, like a lot of people new and newish on here, we found a perfect forum to distract us from the abject horrors going on in our world right now.

We are here for the tea.

A nice bit of 'Caprice might have once had a cock' or 'Sir John Gielgud fancied a three ball with two handsome black blokes' or merely the angle of an elbow determining gender.... that kind of thing! Absolute chewing gum for the brain, keep us occupied and distracted from the very real, hugely scary or depressing Issues.

Jeepus, even Jamie Oliver and his 'too-big-tongue-for-his-own-gob is a welcome distraction!?

If I want real life discourse on politics, flu, sex trafficking etc I'll head to the real life boards!
Serious kiddas take a stroll over there! Wax lyrical about the referendum, sex trafficking, justification for a just war, Madeline McCann, the moral status of a pre-embryo in a secular society, whatever floats your boat and makes you cross... get your knickers in a twist to your hearts desire. Knock yourselves out!

But on Celeb goss? Nah smh.

Now @TheJoanCollinsFanClub any more steaming hot sugary tea to get us back on the straight and narrow of juicy goss (a tenuous grasp on truth not necessary ) ....
We're waiting patiently, honest ....

 

[Handerton]

So Caprice is older man let’s move on!! Obviously there’s not gonna be evidence of her penis online for sally from Manchester to discover

Here’s a tip, google for photos of her wearing short dresses.

Actually that should have said “there’s a tip”

ooo that has got me thinking any other celebs we think are telling porkies about their age?

and going thru all my posts just to angry face it jeez its not like I killed your pet.
I just pointed out your friend was having a joke with you x

Well speaking of women with Adam’s apples, Nicole sherzinger used to have photos on her social media “from my amazing 21st in The Roxy in LA” which were actual prints from an old camera, with the date stamped on them - 1991. After it was pointed out she claims to be a decade younger, her PR said it wasn’t her 21st it was someone else’s, comments mentioned she looked older than 11 and asked how did she get in an over 21s club on a school night... then the photos got deleted.

Lauren Popes CV on her old website claimed she started her first million pound business in 1993. Which according to her current age suggests she was taking business meetings at break time while in year 4 at primary school. And those glamour shots of her were taken around the same time too which is pretty sick

Denise Van Outen dissed her older ex when she got together with Jay Kay by saying “we have so much more in common, we are even the same age”.
Jay Kay is now in his fifties, she’s still in her forties apparently.

Amanda Holden claimed it wasn’t her putting it about with Neil Morrisey and a number of tv executives that caused her split with Les Dennis “it’s the age difference - Les is twelve years older than me”. Les Dennis is now 66 yet she is only 49

And I’m pretty sure Jimmy Krankie has been a schoolboy for far too many years now...

 

[lamaitresse]

It has zero similarity with being an escort, so why this is being brought up as a comparison, or a defence, baffles me.

To say "oh, but some just want compensation" diminishes the pain and trauma of victims and is pretty tone deaf and judgemental, to boot. Let the courts decide on that aspect.

Grooming is about power and manipulation.. Often the victims see a "nice" side of their abuser/s too.

You heard, in situations like Rotherham, that some of the girls thought they were friends/boyfriend and girlfriend. Then the nasty side reappears. It effs with their heads. So "consent" is a bit tenuous.

Not to mention you can be young, inexperienced and/or in denial about what a healthy adult sexual and emotional relationship is like, and you only realise when you're older and more mature how much damage its done. Some have a breakdown when that realisation happens.

 

[LilPinkie]

I do know what it is because I was an escort for god sake! The people I worked for were charged yet none of us were abused!

You are ignoring what I’ve said, be disgusted all you like but I’ve emphasised what I mean over and over and yet you see what you want to see.

Some were victims but I don’t believe they all were.


Sexual exploitation is seen as someone making money from hookers, that’s what agencies do but it’s not abuse if you are legal and consent!

Anyway I’m sick of saying my piece over and over and being ignored so I’m leaving this here.

My God, you are so woefully ignorant. Because you worked as an escort does not mean you know exactly what goes on with these girls and you have really shown that.

 

[TheJoanCollinsFanClub]

So, more tea...
I met Jermaine Jackson on my 14th birthday, me and a few friends had gone up London to spend my birthday money and hang around outside Radio 1, which in those days, was at the bottom of Oxford Street (I think?). Anyway, we all waited outside, giggling like the silly school kids we were, and then George Michael came out, he was so lovely, and he happily signed autographs while we crowded around him. Then Jermaine Jackson came out, and I went over to him, with my autograph book out, and I told him that it was my 14th birthday, he looked me up and down, and said “You’re a big girl for 14”...And accidentally (on purpose) brushed his hand over my boobs. I just remember freezing, and feeling sick, and it was only on the central line train on the way home, that we were looking at our books, that I saw that Jermaine had written “Happy Birthday - and the name of the hotel he was staying at, plus the phone number!!....My friends were pretty shocked, and because I always used to show my autographs off, I had to rip it out and pretend that it didn’t happen. I still feel sick when I see him on TV, but what a fucking creep!! I wonder if he did it to any other girls? And I never told my family either.

 

[Sazbee]

I have joined to add some stories of my own after lurking for 14 threads! I'm not sure how true these are as they came from a friend of a friend of a friend IYSWIM but they are entertaining.

FOAF (friend of a friend) had got a new job working on a film with Kevin Spacey in London. Other members of the crew were quite friendly with Spacey and they all went out for dinner one night with FOAF joining them. At the end of the dinner Spacey asked everyone if they would like to come back to his apartment and smoke weed. FOAF jumped at the chance because what could be cooler than sharing a joint with a big movie star right? Well... the other members of the crew declined which FOAF found odd but he went on his own with Spacey back to the apartment. Now in England, most people mix tobacco into their joints but as Spacey is American the joint was pure weed which totally knocked FOAF out. He awoke later on to find Spacey rubbing lotion into his chest. When he protested Spacey put his finger to his lips and said 'SHHH so natural'. My friend told me this story before the everything came out about Spacey but I can well believe it now.

Same FOAF was working with Ian Mckellan and similarly Mckellan joined them for dinner. When Mckellan went to the toilet, the crew were drinking discussing their sexual fantasies until he came back from the toilet and they stopped as they did not think it was an appropriate conversation with such a respected actor. However he caught the tail end of the conversation and urged them to tell him what they were talking about. This was when he revealed that his fantasy is for 2 big black men to break into his house and spitroast him!!

Like I said, I don't know the credibility of these stories but they are funny regardless.

 

[HaloGirl]

Anyone got some celebrity gossip - surely we are all here for some tea?

 

[Blackbird]

Any gossip on Sandra Bullock?

She lives with her female lover - has done for many years. The "boyfriend" is just for show. And yeah, she knew all about Jessie James' tendencies (don't want to type them out), when she married him. She's not as linen white as her (carefully staged) image suggests.

The surrounding Alexandra Grant (Keanu's supposed girlfriend) is piping hot! I have to rush off now and do some work but if I get more than 10 reactions I'll come back later and elaborate.

It’s weird that this story has blown up so much!! I’ve known all this for years, but when I joined here on Saturday, I had to call another friend up as I had more or less forgotten about it!! I still stand by my story, but what has really taken me by suprise is the way I’ve been literally hounded on this!! Well, I think you can see yourself how many times I’ve asked to move on.....Thanks for your comments, but I’m moving on from this now. Plenty more tea to come though!!

Reserving my seat for coming back later to read your piping hot !

 

[TheJoanCollinsFanClub]

When the NBA star Kobe Bryant, and his young daughter Gianna tragically died in a helicopter crash a few months ago, many people were shocked and saddened. None more so than Kim Kardashian, who had been having a long and passionate affair with him. Kim wanted to leave Kanye, they had not been getting along for some time - and she saw Kobe as a strong and wealthy guy who would take care of her, and the fact that Kobe was so loved by his fans, would help with her image, as she was sick of being seen as just a clothes horse for Kanye’s often laughable fashion choices. Anyway- the story was that Vanessa, (Kobe’s wife) had found out about the affair, and went to confront Kim about it. But the real tea, was that Kim’s last baby, a boy called Psalm, who was born to a surrogate, wasn’t convinced using Kanye’s sperm, but infact was conceived using Kobe’s sperm!!. Kobe was going to leave Vanessa for Kim, and then the helicopter crash happened, and Kim was devastated. Also the only sister who knew what was going on, was Kourtney, and she did not agree with what Kim was doing (going after a married man) which was the real reason that they fell out so spectacularly. As for Kris, well, she made sure that Kim made a very public tribute to Kobe and Gianna, and poor Vanessa had to keep quiet in order to preserve her late husband and daughters memory. But that still leaves baby psalm. Look at pictures of Kobe and Psalm, two peas in a pod. Kanye apparently knows, but won’t leave Kim as he does love her in his own way, and he would never want to be parted from his kids, even the one that isn’t his.!! Kim never changes does she

Edit to add - Concieved not Convinced !!

 

[Gym&Tonic]

I don't know about anyone, but I really dislike the Kardashian's. They seem like a right bunch, of vacuous, entitled, lazy fuckers with too much plastic surgery.