How hard must you have to slap a child for them to got a bruised handprint?!
If anything, it just proves it wasn’t from a fall down the stairs. Very sad. No wonder people were so concerned.Definitely said a hand print. Was Her friend Holly Jones.
Thank you for finding that. Glad I remembered correctly.Definitely said a hand print. Was Her friend Holly Jones.
It’s mostly memes.I am not currently on Facebook but someone said about FS facebook, is this still open and for those who looked at it what impression did it have?
It’s still open and there was one post that aged terriblyI am not currently on Facebook but someone said about FS facebook, is this still open and for those who looked at it what impression did it have?
It’s still open. The comments on her posts have been hijacked by people spouting abuse. She has pictures of Star with SB up if you scroll back and one of the last posts she made was one of those quiz things saying “You’ll Have a Baby Boy” just a few days before Star was killed.I am not currently on Facebook but someone said about FS facebook, is this still open and for those who looked at it what impression did it have?
SS have a lot to answer for imo. I hope there is an inquiry into their failings.But how the hell did social services not intervene if the photo clearly showed a handprint bruise. I don’t get it. I don’t buy that they manipulated SS. It’s SS‘s job to protect children. Child abusers are highly likely to be manipulative. Identifying and overcoming protestations of manipulative parents must be a big part of the job.
OMG, that's disgustingIt’s still open and there was one post that aged terribly
It’s nice to meet you too. The ‘let Them swing’ brigade does my head in. I feel like I must have read a different trial. They cherry pick ‘evidence’ for confirmation bias. IMHO.Hello, I am new here and didn't want to jump in without saying so as I can tell this is an established, well contributed to, thread. I have a social work/family therapy/clinical psychology background so, in particular, I have been watching FS reactions in court with interest. I am not married to my hypothesis but I don't believe she is guilty of these charges. Is it true she has already plead guilty to 8 charges of cruelty so far?
I wrote a (what I thought was a proportionate and balanced) comment on the TE page about FS and the lack of evidence against her for murder/manslaughter/CorA Death and was insulted by the 'let them swing' brigade. AKA the 'could of' lot. Not many grasp criminal law on there do they? Just wanted to say it is reassuring to read how firmly posters here grasp ACE's, grooming, DV, intergenerational patterns and...DaveNice to 'meet' you all.
oh godIt’s still open and there was one post that aged terribly
Yeah apparently warm, clean tidy homes mean there is no child abuse going on. The same in Arthur’s case. Tidy freaks don’t hit their kids according to SSBut how the hell did social services not intervene if the photo clearly showed a handprint bruise. I don’t get it. I don’t buy that they manipulated SS. It’s SS‘s job to protect children. Child abusers are highly likely to be manipulative. Identifying and overcoming protestations of manipulative parents must be a big part of the job.
I think the Arthur case showed pretty clearly that SS can indeed be easily manipulated. Didn’t they close the case a few weeks before he died saying ‘the boy is happy’. Also, FS kept postponing the visits from SS. Pretty sure it was covered in the trial that both SS and the guy from the housing association had a number of agreed visits cancelled by FS.But how the hell did social services not intervene if the photo clearly showed a handprint bruise. I don’t get it. I don’t buy that they manipulated SS. It’s SS‘s job to protect children. Child abusers are highly likely to be manipulative. Identifying and overcoming protestations of manipulative parents must be a big part of the job.
I have wondered if SS did take into account them being gay and SB a traveller and not wanting to cause offence and believing on face value that the allegation was malicious for the afore mentioned reasonsBut how the hell did social services not intervene if the photo clearly showed a handprint bruise. I don’t get it. I don’t buy that they manipulated SS. It’s SS‘s job to protect children. Child abusers are highly likely to be manipulative. Identifying and overcoming protestations of manipulative parents must be a big part of the job.
It wasn’t until the hand shaped bruise came to my attention that I started to wonder what the hell social services were playing at. A hand shaped bruise for goodness sake, major red flag!But how the hell did social services not intervene if the photo clearly showed a handprint bruise. I don’t get it. I don’t buy that they manipulated SS. It’s SS‘s job to protect children. Child abusers are highly likely to be manipulative. Identifying and overcoming protestations of manipulative parents must be a big part of the job.
The second one is almost prothetic. Also says ‘it’It’s still open and there was one post that aged terribly
Yeah that’s the one that she said “definitely us” and tagged SB. The person must’ve made their page private or deleted it but someone screenshotted it, I remember seeing it before it disappeared.The second one is almost prothetic. Also says ‘it’
I am assuming SB deleted her Facebook so we cannot see her reply's? I would think if that's so she probably gave one of her family members the passwordYeah that’s the one that she said “definitely us” and tagged SB. The person must’ve made their page private or deleted it but someone screenshotted it, I remember seeing it before it disappeared.
FS maintains that she left her sanitary towel on the floor by the loo. It is quite possible that this was, indeed true and her solicitor clarified that she was given sanitary products in custody.Ok I think I might get booted off this thread because I’ve made three posts and they have all been questions of things that I have missedlet me just say that I have followed the trial scripts every night up until maybe day two of FS’s questioning. I have also been trying to keep on top of these threads as well. Up until my husband asked if I had fallen out with him because every night, once the kids are in bed, my face has been stuck in my phone and I realised I had to back off a bit
So my question is, was anything more ever said about FS sanitary towel? Was it found in the bathroom? If not, then her story is out the window. Also, the fact that berry single time she was questioned, even by paramedics and nurse etc, she mentioned that SB was making coffee. The fact that she repeated that line over and over, and not just that she had been in the kitchen, makes me thing that she was told to say that and it was completely scripted.
Sorry I have so much to say about this but I know I am so behind and will probably be repeating what’s been gone over 100 times!