100% he needs medication.Please Sarah if you read here just try it. Symptoms of anxiety can kill you. I had a seizure like experiences last year and I did the specialists and crap but nothing helped till I got on some Medication.
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Far out... I've been lurking on this thread for so long but watching her stories about Kurt and basically justifying why it's NOT anxiety was just way too much to ignore. Her stories stories about Kurt tonight are just another indication of how uneducated and backwards her views are - this time regarding mental health.
Sarah, if you read this, please don't discount anxiety as an explanation for Kurt's symptoms. It can be an incredibly debilitating condition and can paralyse and suck the life out of you. Before I was properly diagnosed, I had also been hooked up to an ECG, had a chest X-ray, multiple blood tests, and countless different scans. In the end, a great GP, medication and a good psychologist finally helped me overcome something that I had been suffering from for years.
As my GP explained, despite all the awareness that has been raised over recent years, we still see mental health conditions as somehow less 'valid' than physical conditions, when they should be treated and managed in similar ways. We go and seek treatment for any other physical health condition without shame. Mental health issues deserve the same level of professional treatment (meaning seeking out the assistance of doctors, psychologist and other mental health professionals, not having an 'anxiety reduction plan where you surf every day, don't work and be chilled', whatever that even means). Mental health conditions can also affect the body physically in sooooo many ways - once I had my anxiety under control, I was amazed at just how awful it had made me feel physically. The brain is a powerful thing.
Sarah, if you read this, please don't discount anxiety as an explanation for Kurt's symptoms. It can be an incredibly debilitating condition and can paralyse and suck the life out of you. Before I was properly diagnosed, I had also been hooked up to an ECG, had a chest X-ray, multiple blood tests, and countless different scans. In the end, a great GP, medication and a good psychologist finally helped me overcome something that I had been suffering from for years.
As my GP explained, despite all the awareness that has been raised over recent years, we still see mental health conditions as somehow less 'valid' than physical conditions, when they should be treated and managed in similar ways. We go and seek treatment for any other physical health condition without shame. Mental health issues deserve the same level of professional treatment (meaning seeking out the assistance of doctors, psychologist and other mental health professionals, not having an 'anxiety reduction plan where you surf every day, don't work and be chilled', whatever that even means). Mental health conditions can also affect the body physically in sooooo many ways - once I had my anxiety under control, I was amazed at just how awful it had made me feel physically. The brain is a powerful thing.
And the symptoms can vary wildly from one person to another and from a period of life to another. I've had anxiety since I was 8 years old and I've had everything from constipation, bowel pain (IBS type pain), lower back pain, upper back pain, debilitating neck and shoulder pain, wrist pain, migraines, sore throat (yea that is weird!) and maybe other pains I didn't know were anxiety related at the time. I've been to SO many doctors and specialists who all said they couldn't find anything and that I should see a psy for probable anxiety. So as you all said, yes the doctors probably mentioned anxiety but following his failed "anxiety curing protocol" which involved surfing and meditation they dismissed the doctors and decided to go to a naturopath
If he doesn't find a psychologist/therapist soon he's going to get worse.
Also funny how she said the symptoms started about 2 years ago. Isn't that when she got pregnant? Just sayin'...
I’m a paramedic and the amount of patients I have been to for those exact symptoms would be in the hundreds. If all the other causes have been ruled out, it is most likely mental health. Those ‘holistic’ treatments can be done (like surfing) but by god that won’t cure a chemical imbalance in the brain. He requires medication and regular appointments with a psychologist. God soon enough they will be saying they have diagnosed his condition via DM
Forgive me if I’m wrong......the Dr did suggest Anxiety, not the last time when he went to hospital. The time before.
They dismissed it.
They dismissed it.
I also feel like the peak of her ‘fame’ has also occurred since then, and the rise of her selfish personality feeding off that popularity. I think a lot of his anxiety would be linked to Sarah.
Exactly. Not to mention she explicitly stated “yeah, Kurt’s the rock of the family”. I cannot imagine the pressure he is feeling and he probably doesn’t even know it. My fiancé years ago had weird seizure like symptoms and was finally diagnosed with anxiety. He still gets episodes here and there but he now knows how to deal with them/has a psychologist that he sees every other week. “Yeah I don’t feel anxious” doesn’t mean you don’t have anxiety. I wish they weren’t so opposed to acknowledging anxiety/depression as a possibility because it truly is only going to worsen.
Sarah, I’ll put this here instead of a DM, you’re prob more likely to see it. Two things came to my mind with Kurt’s symptoms and I hope it’s not either of them. Has anyone mentioned multiple sclerosis (the fatigue, headaches and feeling drunk - not sure about the pain). And also when getting heart checked did he get an echocardiogram, different to an ecg/ekg it’s an ultrasound of the heart and picks up structural abnormalities.
Also, please, if it is anxiety he may be at a stage where he needs clinical help. No shame in that.
Finally, words matter. Chronically ill people already feel down enough that they can’t do all they want to do and be the person they want to be. They’re well aware of their shortcomings and feel awful about it already. Saying things like “I’ve had to step up and be both parents” and that he says he feels like a burden and the response is that family is here for each other (which confirms that it is a burden) - words like these do so, so, so much damage. Until you’ve been that person you have no idea how much these comments hurt, and don’t help either person. I truly hope you get some answers and kurt’s health improves.
Also, please, if it is anxiety he may be at a stage where he needs clinical help. No shame in that.
Finally, words matter. Chronically ill people already feel down enough that they can’t do all they want to do and be the person they want to be. They’re well aware of their shortcomings and feel awful about it already. Saying things like “I’ve had to step up and be both parents” and that he says he feels like a burden and the response is that family is here for each other (which confirms that it is a burden) - words like these do so, so, so much damage. Until you’ve been that person you have no idea how much these comments hurt, and don’t help either person. I truly hope you get some answers and kurt’s health improves.
Exactly.
I hope Kurt reads here as well and takes this on board. Even seek out treatment without telling her and if it works, than have the conversation. The thing with her putting it out there and asking for DM's is that she can filter through them with her closed mind.
Likewise Sarah's emphasis on him being 'mentally strong' made me uncomfortable given the context that we're all assuming there's some underlying mental health concern.
I wonder if he minds her sharing that and asking for help from strangers?
I’ve just been diagnosed as hyperthyroid and have literally told 2 people.
I do feel a bit sorry for Kurt in some ways, I can imagine he feels very trapped.
Also there has been so much in the media recently (in the UK anyway) about Men’s mental health. Everything they do is public, I don’t he would have anxiety without Sarah pressuring him to share it to her stans. He could use that voice to make others aware that it’s okay, okay to be a male and suffer with mental health issues.
I’ve just been diagnosed as hyperthyroid and have literally told 2 people.
I do feel a bit sorry for Kurt in some ways, I can imagine he feels very trapped.
Also there has been so much in the media recently (in the UK anyway) about Men’s mental health. Everything they do is public, I don’t he would have anxiety without Sarah pressuring him to share it to her stans. He could use that voice to make others aware that it’s okay, okay to be a male and suffer with mental health issues.
Just to add another thing - I hope she is being a TRUE advocate for Kurt, as in, taking a diagnosis and accepting it vs seeking out more doctors until she gets an answer she “agrees” with. I know that patients can be dismissed and misdiagnosed all the time but I also know (from Sarah’s own posts) that she dismisses doctors’ opinions if she thinks Dr. Google has a better answer (I’m truly not even sure she’s aware that it isn’t advocacy at that point).
I agree but I genuinely feel that she’ll see anxiety and go nah the surfing didn’t work but see something that mentions gluten and it will go to the top of the list.
This could end up being the breaking point of their relationship if it is anxiety/mental health related. If I was left to bottle up my own anxiety because my partner came across dismissive, I would probably blow up at them and walk. Women can be equally as emotionally abusive (very bold claim that I’m not saying Sarah is, just a general comment), it’s not just men.
Like others have mentioned, she puts an immense amount of pressure on him and is so demanding all the time. She overshares with her 1.whatever million followers and he probably feels like he can’t sit her down and ask her not to. The constant guilt tripping as well, as we’ve seen over the last few days when Kurt has been feeling down
She constantly talked over him when they addressed that whole thing of people accusing her of not letting him have a say in anything with the new house - she never lets him speak for himself.
He’s like her puppet.
I still can’t believe She happily broadcast this morning to the internet ‘ooh haven’t spoken to Kurt about this so unsure how much he’s wanting to allow me to share’... maybe don’t share anything at all until you’ve asked him then? It’s no ones business! If he wants to speak about it let HIM do it. This is all a personal topic that some people maybe want to keep private.
Like others have mentioned, she puts an immense amount of pressure on him and is so demanding all the time. She overshares with her 1.whatever million followers and he probably feels like he can’t sit her down and ask her not to. The constant guilt tripping as well, as we’ve seen over the last few days when Kurt has been feeling down
She constantly talked over him when they addressed that whole thing of people accusing her of not letting him have a say in anything with the new house - she never lets him speak for himself.
He’s like her puppet.
I still can’t believe She happily broadcast this morning to the internet ‘ooh haven’t spoken to Kurt about this so unsure how much he’s wanting to allow me to share’... maybe don’t share anything at all until you’ve asked him then? It’s no ones business! If he wants to speak about it let HIM do it. This is all a personal topic that some people maybe want to keep private.
I feel as though she is only mentioning anxiety because we have said it. It’s never been mentioned before because last time she said it was his heart and she prattled on about the symptoms he’s having (which were classic anxiety) and she still didn’t even mention it.
From another person who suffers debilitating anxiety I wish she wouldn’t be so dismissive. I’ve been on my journey 10 years now and I was so against medication but once I took it and got a little bit more levelled out I was able to start therapy and then wean myself off the medication and continuing going to my sessions.
From another person who suffers debilitating anxiety I wish she wouldn’t be so dismissive. I’ve been on my journey 10 years now and I was so against medication but once I took it and got a little bit more levelled out I was able to start therapy and then wean myself off the medication and continuing going to my sessions.
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that in itself sounds like hypochondria... which is a bleeping form of anxiety
Sarah doesn’t even know she houses a few forms of anxiety herself.
Definitely sounds like textbook anxiety to me. They have ruled out organic causes - someone mentioned MS above but she did mention that he had had a brain scan and there are some very specific signs on a scan, plus it generally presents with other signs such as optic neuritis. He’s had a heap of bloods, and whatever voodoo “breath work” the naturopath or chiro decided to do.
As previously mentioned, reducing stress (aka. going surfing every day
) is only a very minor part of treating true clinical anxiety, for the love of god he needs medication and psychotherapy. Medication doesn’t have to be lifelong. It just helps to even you out, lessen the physical symptoms, and build up your reserve to make you more receptive to psychotherapy to start off with. He needs a good GP, a referral to a psychologist that specialises in males with GAD or whatever manifestation of anxiety a GP or psychiatrist who can talk him through it all diagnoses - NOT a bunch of 13yo stans trying to tell you about their anecdotal collection of stories through Instagram. Finding a good psychologist who is able to develop a great therapeutic relationship with you can be super difficult and take time but psychotherapy honestly works wonders. Get the poor man some proper help.
As previously mentioned, reducing stress (aka. going surfing every day
) is only a very minor part of treating true clinical anxiety, for the love of god he needs medication and psychotherapy. Medication doesn’t have to be lifelong. It just helps to even you out, lessen the physical symptoms, and build up your reserve to make you more receptive to psychotherapy to start off with. He needs a good GP, a referral to a psychologist that specialises in males with GAD or whatever manifestation of anxiety a GP or psychiatrist who can talk him through it all diagnoses - NOT a bunch of 13yo stans trying to tell you about their anecdotal collection of stories through Instagram. Finding a good psychologist who is able to develop a great therapeutic relationship with you can be super difficult and take time but psychotherapy honestly works wonders. Get the poor man some proper help.my friend who was constantly stressed and anxious with bad headaches was going through the same testing process as Kurt and even tested for MS but yeah in the end it was chronic stress and anxiety.Definitely sounds like textbook anxiety to me. They have ruled out organic causes - someone mentioned MS above but she did mention that he had had a brain scan and there are some very specific signs on a scan, plus it generally presents with other signs such as optic neuritis. He’s had a heap of bloods, and whatever voodoo “breath work” the naturopath or chiro decided to do.
As previously mentioned, reducing stress (aka. going surfing every day
I'm late to this again, but it is anxiety. And she said so many doctors said that at the beginning but she's sure it's definitely not because surfing didn't work? Come on.
Sarah, Google "dissociation"! He has it. That feeling drunk and not being able to hold a conversation thing- dissociation!
He has anxiety.
Not being able to take a deep breath. Anxiety.
Waking up feeling off. Anxiety.
Says he's feeling like a burden. ANXIETY.
He's been to a GP and cardiologist, had blood work and had a 24 hour heart monitor. He's been to a naturopath and acupuncturist. If nothing is clinically wrong physically, then it is his mental health manifesting in physical symptoms.
Now, you're turning to your DM responses from your 12-16 y.o. followers. We all know that is you asking for advice from us, because you follow every word on here. Look at all the posts on here trying to help you:
The correct next step is a therapist. He has anxiety.
If nothing else, he has anxiety around the fact that he has not been diagnosed with anything specific in the last 2 years, so a therapist would help him cope with that feeling of exasperation until you get the diagnosis you want.
But really, it is just textbook anxiety from what you have shared.
You say you care, then show it. Stop showing up at his work "to be supportive" when you actually want him to act as your photographer.
Stop saying you played "both parental roles" and had to pick up the slack for him because he was poorly.
Stop with the passive aggressive "I couldn't even ask him to do the washing up" comments, like your life was so inconvenienced.
If you genuinely cared, you wouldn't be after him to complete your workout room in the new house NOW NOW NOW. That's not someone who is worried about their partner and trying to remove stressors, that is someone who is worried about their partner's ill health interfering with her selfish plans.
Time for a change Sarah. And unlike the cultural appropriation issue that you can conveniently ignore because it does not affect you, this is something you need to address because he may not be able to marry you if his anxiety worsens.
Sarah, Google "dissociation"! He has it. That feeling drunk and not being able to hold a conversation thing- dissociation!
He has anxiety.
Not being able to take a deep breath. Anxiety.
Waking up feeling off. Anxiety.
Says he's feeling like a burden. ANXIETY.
He's been to a GP and cardiologist, had blood work and had a 24 hour heart monitor. He's been to a naturopath and acupuncturist. If nothing is clinically wrong physically, then it is his mental health manifesting in physical symptoms.
Now, you're turning to your DM responses from your 12-16 y.o. followers. We all know that is you asking for advice from us, because you follow every word on here. Look at all the posts on here trying to help you:
The correct next step is a therapist. He has anxiety.
If nothing else, he has anxiety around the fact that he has not been diagnosed with anything specific in the last 2 years, so a therapist would help him cope with that feeling of exasperation until you get the diagnosis you want.
But really, it is just textbook anxiety from what you have shared.
You say you care, then show it. Stop showing up at his work "to be supportive" when you actually want him to act as your photographer.
Stop saying you played "both parental roles" and had to pick up the slack for him because he was poorly.
Stop with the passive aggressive "I couldn't even ask him to do the washing up" comments, like your life was so inconvenienced.
If you genuinely cared, you wouldn't be after him to complete your workout room in the new house NOW NOW NOW. That's not someone who is worried about their partner and trying to remove stressors, that is someone who is worried about their partner's ill health interfering with her selfish plans.
Time for a change Sarah. And unlike the cultural appropriation issue that you can conveniently ignore because it does not affect you, this is something you need to address because he may not be able to marry you if his anxiety worsens.
So, aside from her being so dismissive of Kurt's debilitating situation, she decides to film the instastories where Kurt is working. Literally talking about him and his health problems to all of her followers without talking to him right in front of him. Then, she gets upset about Fox playing in mud because she was too busy talking to a camera to watch her kid but it's okay because this is what having a boy is like (when it's so obvious that she's upset about it). Then, of course, she has to talk all about herself once again. How does any of this amount to sticking with Kurt through thick and thin? Like others have said, she really should take some time off 'to be a nursy' and help Kurt get seen by the people who can help him. Their relationship is so one sided. She really lacks love, patience, and empathy. She actually managed to find a way to turn the cultural appropriation stuff into her feeling burn out (poor Sezzy!).
Also, she said just the other day that she hadn't been wearing those blue light glasses for a while. Why is she now changing her story? Oh that's right. It's another white fox restock. How exciting.
Also, she said just the other day that she hadn't been wearing those blue light glasses for a while. Why is she now changing her story? Oh that's right. It's another white fox restock. How exciting.
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