Sara Sharif case

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I don't know how officers keep it together when they interview these monsters who harm children.
May that beautiful little soul get to get the justice she deserves.
 
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Removal from school should be an immediate red flag. I'm not talking about home schoolers but the removal of a child that has previously attended school should be.
Especially after a school reports potential abuse and then the child is withdrawn. It's not a coincidence.
 
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I didn’t word that very well when I said regardless of culture. What I meant was my response from the sister, in which she has been told about a child being abused and her response to that is to read the Qu’ran, and not to to do anything about it, that’s actually the culture I was referring to. The culture of staying silent, keeping things “in house”, not causing a fuss.
I understood what you meant. And the culture of fearing authority and not snitching/keeping stuff “in the family” applies to many more cultures than just Pakistanis (although it definitely applies there). My culture, working classes, Travellers, they all have that culture especially because these are patriarchal cultures where the father is the head of the house and is allowed to punish his children as he sees fit. Look at the recent case in Nottingham where Romanian kids were removed due to credible allegations of severe abuse and the community rioted until the kids got put back. I often wonder what’s become of those children now.

Overlay that fear of authority with a culture are devalues women and sees them as possessions (which rural Pakistani cultures definitely do) you have a recipe for an environment where abuse can flourish unseen by the outside world.

But yeah if my sister’s stepkid was being beaten up, the last thing I would be telling her to do is read a book, I don’t give a tit if it’s the Quran or Noddy Goes to Toyland, a book would be very low on my list of suggestions!!!
 
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These bleeps were travelling business class on emirates! Wtf?!
I assumed that was the only way they could get to Pakistan at such short notice rather than them living it up. The flights would have been full, business class was likely all that was available.
 
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When I questioned this I was told they might have been returned by BC funded by the tax payer because of being able to move easily control the space/safety and security in BC with the police accompanying them. Not sure if that is true or people just trying to incite things further.
 
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I think the return was business class from Dubai, and they may have been put there by the airline to separate them. Everyone knew they were being arrested when they returned. The police boarded the flight right away, easier to deal with it in business than packed eceonomy.
 
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I think the return was business class from Dubai, and they may have been put there by the airline to separate them. Everyone knew they were being arrested when they returned. The police boarded the flight right away, easier to deal with it in business than packed eceonomy.
I mean Emirates is such a bouji airline, even economy is posh and spacious tbh. But yes I agree BC would be much better to control them - I assume they were travelling with police? - because the stewards could put up a partition and make it completely private.
 
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I mean Emirates is such a bouji airline, even economy is posh and spacious tbh. But yes I agree BC would be much better to control them - I assume they were travelling with police? - because the stewards could put up a partition and make it completely private.
The bodycam footage shows them in the middle of a middle row with Emily seats around it, but people a bit further over. I think it looked like they were deliberately sat there. The police boarded within minutes of landing so it seemed arranged. Easy to empty the economy people out the back on the other side of the curtain, Business is up front so less chance of them trying to leg it off the plane etc.
 
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I think the return was business class from Dubai, and they may have been put there by the airline to separate them. Everyone knew they were being arrested when they returned. The police boarded the flight right away, easier to deal with it in business than packed eceonomy.
Agreed, they won’t have had the full business class experience people think of, it was just short notice plus logistically far easier to have them there.

I doubt the tax payer paid any extra for it either. The alternative would be “innocent family fined by school after they were late back due to being chucked off full emirates flight to make way for murderers!” There’d always be hysteria however they came back, they weren’t gonna teleport back from Pakistan so they had to fly somehow.
 
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Agreed, they won’t have had the full business class experience people think of, it was just short notice plus logistically far easier to have them there.

I doubt the tax payer paid any extra for it either. The alternative would be “innocent family fined by school after they were late back due to being chucked off full emirates flight to make way for murderers!” There’d always be hysteria however they came back, they weren’t gonna teleport back from Pakistan so they had to fly somehow.
Yeah in any case how much business class would they have got? Comfy seats? Maybe a nicer dinner? I assume they don’t drink alcohol. Nice and refreshed for when they get arrested and taken straight for interviews.
 
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Yeah in any case how much business class would they have got? Comfy seats? Maybe a nicer dinner? I assume they don’t drink alcohol. Nice and refreshed for when they get arrested and taken straight for interviews.
I doubt they even got the nicer dinner, I imagine comfier seats and a slight bit of extra space was all they got to contemplate being arrested when they landed on.
 
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Meh, let them have business class. These three are facing a whole life sentence. Let them sit in luxury for the very last time knowing its the last flight they are likely to have ever and all that they are facing is incarceration for the rest of their lives for what they did.
 
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I doubt they even got the nicer dinner, I imagine comfier seats and a slight bit of extra space was all they got to contemplate being arrested when they landed on.
I like to think the stewards spat in their bouji emirates in flight meal before serving it lol. “Oh that? Yes Madam, it’s…a sauce. Yes a transparent sauce. With foam in it. Enjoy!”
 
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I assumed that was the only way they could get to Pakistan at such short notice rather than them living it up. The flights would have been full, business class was likely all that was available.
This was the return flight though, when they landed in the UK.

IIRC they struggled to pay for the outbound flights and had to use a couple of cards after one was declined.
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They weren’t travelling with police. The police boarded at Gatwick and BB said “I think you’re looking for us”

It’s possible the police only knew they were coming back when they checked in for their flight.
 
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I think they would have had interpol alerts on their passports.
I think the Pakistani authorities wanted them gone back to UK, despite the lack of extradition treaty. They made Pakistan look bad.
Even if there wasn’t a police entertainer they were being watched all the way home, and they knew they were being met off the plane with an arrest, it’s clear in the video.
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they gave themselves up to Pakistani Police, the British High Commission didn’t arrange the flight.
 
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Withdrawing her to home school should have prompted another social care referral from school following their previous one that was NFA'd. In my school if we'd have seen bruises like they did and social care said did not meet threshold we'd have escalated to managers. I can't see how they did not even do a section 47 assessment but then again I have also seen this happen where nothing happens as the children do not speak to services about what's actually happening. I would be v interested to read a case review about this, there must be one coming surely?
 
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Withdrawing her to home school should have prompted another social care referral from school following their previous one that was NFA'd. In my school if we'd have seen bruises like they did and social care said did not meet threshold we'd have escalated to managers. I can't see how they did not even do a section 47 assessment but then again I have also seen this happen where nothing happens as the children do not speak to services about what's actually happening. I would be v interested to read a case review about this, there must be one coming surely?
If they NFA’d they’re not going to do an S47. I’m sure there must be a serious case review as the courts placed Sara and her brother with US, so that and the fact 5 other kids lived in a house where Sara was regularly beaten and abused would be enough for one?
 
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Withdrawing her to home school should have prompted another social care referral from school following their previous one that was NFA'd. In my school if we'd have seen bruises like they did and social care said did not meet threshold we'd have escalated to managers. I can't see how they did not even do a section 47 assessment but then again I have also seen this happen where nothing happens as the children do not speak to services about what's actually happening. I would be v interested to read a case review about this, there must be one coming surely?
The excuse will be that not enough people reported it and they were overworked, I’m sure. And that they had hundreds of kids on their case load being abused worse, which I have to be honest seems like BS in this situation - quite apart from the fact they killed her, I seriously doubt there are hundreds of kids in Sara’s area specifically, all assigned to whatever team was assigned to her, being abused to a higher level.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the eventual review reveals the school did try to escalate it and the info SS had was more than enough to make anyone with a modicum of common sense realise the situation was likely very bad but while the only villain is allowed to be the underfunding and overworking nothing will change from it.

The red flags just weren’t red enough for poor Sara, it seems.
 
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