Could not agree more. My friend was a social worker and is the most kind, caring person I've ever met. She was genuinely desperate to make a difference but ended up leaving the local authority because she was being let down by management who were giving her impossible workloads which meant she felt she was letting down children and families. She'd be awake at night worrying about children and whether she'd missed something and terrified of something happening to both a child and herself. She's been in horrifying situations, been threatened, assaulted and spat at. In the end she left not just the job but the profession as she was so burned out within just 2 years
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Any live links today?
The hearing is listed for today but it doesn’t seem to have anything happening yet - or at least not reportable.
Your friend's experience is one reason why there is a massive shortfall of people entering the social work profession. The elephant in the room is that it's simply not a job that many people want to do.
Paying them a hell of a lot more would be a start. However, like all other female dominated professions (teaching, care, nursing), peopple are expected to do it for peanuts because, as women, they are supposed to be naturally kind, caring and have a calling. /s
It's part of the deeply entrenched institutional misogyny in our society whereby female dominated caring roles are not respected or deemed worthy of appropriate financial compensation.
Whereas you can bet that the male dominated industries (financial services, law) in which testosterone fuelled dudes sit around hitting their keyboards are MORE than adequately compensated.
If it was predominantly men who went into social work, we would magically see it become a highly valued profession with very high safety standards and proper pay for practitioners.
On topic...
Does anyone know whether each of the three defendents has their own barrister? And does this mean that each barrister will be able to cross examine the other two as witnesses? Will it be three separate verdicts?
Could take a v long time and get v confusing if so.
Clearly the people will all try and blame each other.
I’m assuming they all have their own barrister because they are individually charged. I seem to remember Constance Marten and Mark Gordon were the same.
I was a witness in a case and each three defendants had a different solicitor who each got to question me in turn. They do work together to a certain extent I guess, only one questioned me and the others said they had nothing to add. Their main goal is to help their client as much as they can but they might get information from other solicitors. If they decide to give evidence then they will be cross examined by the others solicitors. That's why the case is going on until December.
They should do as they are all individually charged with the offences. Each will have their own defence - Urfan Sharif has blamed the wicked stepmother, and she has blamed him. I think the uncle is going for no involvement.
The verdicts will be per person, but like CM/MG trial the judge may give direction on if x is guilty of y then z also must happen / if x is found NG if y then z must also happen/not happen.
Hopefully the fact that no one injury or occasion can be determined as the cause of her death, it’ll be easier to return guilty verdicts
Three barristers, legal aid..
How much is this costing the taxpayers?
Money that could be spent on social services
It’s important for them to have a fair trial though. The cost of the barristers is worth every penny to make sure these absolute scumbags face justice.
You could say that about anything. We could stop collecting bins and make people pay the bin lorry themselves and spend it on Social Services. We could make companies pay proper taxes and spend that. Whilst we have a legal system for justice, there has to be access to representation.
This is a sore point with me. A close family member was killed by a speeding motorist. Obvious they were guilty, there was more than enough evidence, but pleaded not guilty to causing death by dangerous driving and tried to plea bargain for careless driving.
Cost them nothing, they had legal aid.
But the cost of CPS, barrister, expert witness, police in attendance at court, court time and 18 months to get to trial was hard on us.
At the last minute they pleaded guilty and asked for leniency by admitting their guilt.
Legal systems for justice is one thing, but with overwhelming evidence it seems so wrong.
Cost them nothing, they had legal aid.
But the cost of CPS, barrister, expert witness, police in attendance at court, court time and 18 months to get to trial was hard on us.
At the last minute they pleaded guilty and asked for leniency by admitting their guilt.
Legal systems for justice is one thing, but with overwhelming evidence it seems so wrong.
The alternative is mob justice, like the riots the other month.
I’m assuming the trial proceeded today but it was under reporting restrictions for some reason.
Maybe judges directions, or protecting a witness (eg a minor?)?
Maybe judges directions, or protecting a witness (eg a minor?)?
So basically each defence barrister could potentially corss examine each of the other two? Wow could get lengthy and confusing.They should do as they are all individually charged with the offences. Each will have their own defence - Urfan Sharif has blamed the wicked stepmother, and she has blamed him. I think the uncle is going for no involvement.
The verdicts will be per person, but like CM/MG trial the judge may give direction on if x is guilty of y then z also must happen / if x is found NG if y then z must also happen/not happen.
Hopefully the fact that no one injury or occasion can be determined as the cause of her death, it’ll be easier to return guilty verdicts
Maybe one of the other children.
MP calls for government to discuss Sara Sharif’s siblings' return
Sara’s five siblings have been in Pakistan since the defendants travelled with them in August 2023.
www.bbc.co.uk
Think all the children are still abroad according to this article
There could be discussions of things previously brought to Family Court - DV claims, anything in the divorce relating to the children, the custody decision - which are relevant but can’t be reported.
Looks like the siblings are still not back in the UK (also - two siblings?! I thought it was five?)
Reporting is back on, hearing from old neighbours today
www.independent.co.uk
Sara Sharif’s neighbour spoke to family over ‘constant screaming’, jury told
Neighbours have told a jury at the Old Bailey of the noises they heard at the family home of Sara Sharif in Woking before her death
The neighbours testimony is so distressing and I can't help but fear that the screaming would 'immediately go silent' because that's when they gagged or hooded herReporting is back on, hearing from old neighbours today
Sara Sharif’s neighbour spoke to family over ‘constant screaming’, jury told
Neighbours have told a jury at the Old Bailey of the noises they heard at the family home of Sara Sharif in Woking before her death
Agree. Or because they hit her so hard that she was unconscious.
I’ve said it before that it’s not the neighbour’s fault at all, but I couldn’t live with myself now if I’d been the ones to not do anything
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