Agreed, but I’m not impressed with the commenters who decided to have a go at Jane, rather than at Sali or Bella Freud, or Cult Beauty. By leaving the original comments up and not removing her post, Jane has ensured that more people will learn about it. Deleting it would have had the opposite effect. She doesn’t deserve a shoeing for itI think BBB handled that exchange well, and I take her point that the real culprits are those that stand to profit from the sale of such an item eg Bella Freud, La Hughes & retailers. I despise faux intellectuals who like the cachet of a cool slogan rather actually understanding what they are talking about. Idiots.
Probably to avoid libel charges.Yes, sorry. I found the same thing. Tattle itself seems to autocorrect ponce to ponce and weirdo to weirdo. It’s so odd. If I click edit, then my original typing is still there, eg ponce, but when I click post/save it’s changed to ponce. So I ended up spacing it out@admin??
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Maybe they’re also doing that. If nobody commented on her post then nobody would learn about it as she herself hasn’t proactively mentioned it. I thought the comments were fairly balanced and soft and it’s nice to see her engaging too. She does seem lovely.Agreed, but I’m not impressed with the commenters who decided to have a go at Jane, rather than at Sali or Bella Freud, or Cult Beauty. By leaving the original comments up and not removing her post, Jane has ensured that more people will learn about it. Deleting it would have had the opposite effect. She doesn’t deserve a shoeing for it.
I agree. The difference between the way Jane and Sali engage with their comments is insane! Jane does seem lovely from what I have seen of her.Maybe they’re also doing that. If nobody commented on her post then nobody would learn about it as she herself hasn’t proactively mentioned it. I thought the comments were fairly balanced and soft and it’s nice to see her engaging too. She does seem lovely.
Yes, fair enough. I think it’s good that she left it all up for people to see.Maybe they’re also doing that. If nobody commented on her post then nobody would learn about it as she herself hasn’t proactively mentioned it. I thought the comments were fairly balanced and soft and it’s nice to see her engaging too. She does seem lovely.
Yeah I agree and maybe she’s actually doing the best thing as in she’s not burnt bridges with SH but she has given a voice to people with valid critique. She’s a smart woman and I expect she’s given it a lot of thought. Did you see she offered to have a private convo with one longtime commenter who felt strongly about it? That was a warm gesture.Yes, fair enough. I think it’s good that she left it all up for people to see.
Katy heyes markup (no me neither..)@Yel - whose video did Sali jack-in-the-box into? She must have some kind of alert set up to monitor this!
Same here. Before that video a) I had never heard of Tattle and b) I was only mildy irritated by SH (the #presstreatments, the know all/never wrong attitude, the apparent - but not mentioned - Botox). It was the self-serving misrepresentation of here - and the pile on she encouraged - that made me see her differently.My main issue is nothing to do with how she presents herself in product content, what’s in her column or anything along those lines. It’s always been directly related to her video that Friday, which sent me here... where I read every single thread and could not connect the dots between the video and what was being said here. That video was the one event that alerted me to question her version of the truth, because she has a very different view of what has been said here. There was also the snippy vibes I picked up on in the comments and replies on her IG channel.
We all perceive events through the lens in which we see. I genuinely think she doesn’t see it and never will. With that in mind, I really don’t see the point. I’m annoyed with myself for being so easily influenced by the whole influencer category - whether that’s stealth selling of a cleanser to spending money on a book I will never read...
I don’t want to be misrepresented (as part of this forum) by her. I am aware that she probably feels exactly the same way about what she reads on here. So I find myself
coming full circle and feeling MEH about it.
Not quite sure where this has come from but just wanted to put it out there.
Is it me or is "heavier duty" really clunky and ugly sounding? Phrasing stuff in a novel way for the sake of it isn't goid writing, especially when it jars and you have to reread it as you say. She says in today's video that her position on eye cream is misunderstood - probably because she's often too busy faffing about with stupid turns of phrase that her meaning gets lost."Most requested"
"heartening"
"not quite there yet" ...she's trolling us!
"pleasing"
Also sentences with so many sub clauses and multiple brackets you have to read then twice.
Misunderstood? She has very clearly stated multiple times that she thinks eye creams are just moisturisers in a smaller pot or words to that effect. Why can't she just say "actually I was wrong and I've realised that a separate eye cream is better". No, it's everyone else's fault for misunderstanding. Not that she's done a u-turn. Never her fault. Even in the days I hung on Sali's every word I never agreed with the eye cream stance. Eyes get puffy if I use regular face moisturiser. I use an eye serum or gel mostlyIs it me or is "heavier duty" really clunky and ugly sounding? Phrasing stuff in a novel way for the sake of it isn't goid writing, especially when it jars and you have to reread it as you say. She says in today's video that her position on eye cream is misunderstood - probably because she's often too busy faffing about with stupid turns of phrase that her meaning gets lost.
The tangles she gets herself into on Twitter also illustrate this. For a professional writer, she's not very good at communicating clearly.
Thing is The Guardian published this in 2014 (which I find mind-boggling). Sali must have found out about the link with paedophilia either during her research for this piece or, like you say, someone more knowledgeable responding to it. She doesn’t care. If there’s any chance that it will help her achieve any kind of cool, literary-girl chic, or give her a tenuous link with the worlds of Bella Freud and Kate Moss, then she’s fine with it.From what she has put in the public domain, it seems that SH has close friends who are engaged by national broadsheets to comment on culture/pop culture/celebrity/manners/morals etc. Her Beauty Banks co-founder is an experienced beauty PR. How could they have seen her in that BF sweater - in a post or IRL - and not had a word with her?
Love how she's at pains to point out the one and only time she's rushed out to buy something after seeing something on a celeb and calls it "shameful". The irony in that statement. She doesn't see that that's what she expects women to do in her capacity as an "influencer". She's the one that influences people and don't you forget it, ok.Thing is The Guardian published this in 2014 (which I find mind-boggling). Sali must have found out about the link with paedophilia either during her research for this piece or, like you say, someone more knowledgeable responding to it. She doesn’t care. If there’s any chance that it will help her achieve any kind of cool, literary-girl chic, or give her a tenuous link with the worlds of Bella Freud and Kate Moss, then she’s fine with it.
As she says, having researched the Bella Freud slogan for this piece, “I love it more now than ever”. Plus look at The Guardian’s photo caption, FFS.
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You are so right - surely there has to be a line with child abuse. There can't be an 'acceptable' abuser that we turn a blind eye to because they are 'cool' and shrug our shoulders and say 'oh well it's just a name'.Everyone from Bella Freud to the buyers at CB, Liberty and the rest, to SH, to Jenny Youpi Colgan. They share responsibility. This is how abuse happens: nobody will stick their head above the parapet and say: I draw the line here.
How are these the people we look up to? Ugh this candle thing has really upset me. It’s so Black Mirror. Frustrating beyond belief that the people who have the loudest voice can live with themselves when they promote this sort of rotten behaviour.
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