SacconeJolys #19 The cult of Jonathan the Holy Shepherd and Anna of Grey Manor

[katt219]

Anna in today's vlog 'I'm such a people pleaser, I wish I could be more selfish' WTF??

 

[elenita]

Anna in today's vlog 'I'm such a people pleaser, I wish I could be more selfish' WTF??

I am pretty sure she believes that! This is the problem: her perception vs. real life.

 

[Offtobuttonmoon]

What concerns me about Anna's ED is her passing on her issues and disordered eating to her impressionable children. She makes 'healthy' dinners (organic, gluten free, sugar free, fun free) in tiny portions that we never see them eat it all or enjoy. Then on the other hand she seems to get such glee from encouraging them to eat large portions of sugary treats even when they're not overly fussed (which I understand can be part of the ED). The kids don't have any family nearby who they would spend time with to see how this isn't how regular people eat.

 

[Linnyloo]

I have been reading here for a long time. And commenting. I have been so frustrated by their actions as parents and genuinely alarmed! But I have to say something. Please don't think that I think you are all terrible people. Not at all. I know you love those little ones.
But...I think Anna is going through some really hard things. I cannot imagine having an ED. I do have centralized Anxiety and Depression, and I have had periods of barely keeping my head above water, and any *extra* care- meaning other than the basics of keeping my children alive has suffered.
I think that we should be more compassionate towards her. She is obviously having a hard time, and having thousands of people watching you would make life unbearable. I know she picked this, but maybe she is scared. I don't know if I would know how to stop that circus, or even have the strength too. Seriously guys, I don't think we know the whole story.
I really do love you all. You are a great bunch. Please don't be angry with me.

I don't agree, no.

 

[Icemaiden01]

At least the children get school lunches (when they attend) after the embarrassment of being told they didn’t get enough in their packed lunches

 

[Linnyloo]

Not supporting them, but once a child is walking they're capable of age appropriate chores. Alessia's are simple... brush your teeth, help make your bed, tidy your room. It's good to have them get used to responsibilities. But, I don't understand the clear your plate chore. Does that mean that she is to eat all of her food? Or does it mean that she's supposed to wash her plate? I don't watch the vlogs (if she explains it), I just check in on here every once in a while.
Eating is not a chore. Nor is it a reward or a punishment either. So, hopefully that chore is meant for her to be cleaning her plate.

God only knows with such a nutcase of a mother

I think it means taking the plate to the dishwasher or sink.
So, that means there's a lot less for Anna to do, right? Seeing as she takes one plate at a time....


But other people have their partners named, and children, too. Seems strange that with her immediate family that's not the case?

Oh how hilaaaaarious Jonathan to call today's vlog 'Meet our new housekeeper and nanny'...

Is he trying to take the piss out of us with that title? I don't quite get it.

 

[Fawkeofff]

I agree with a comment I just read saying that Anna isn't happy. I feel like as bad of a person she portrays herself to be, there's definitely something going ln, yes she shows herself to be selfish and stuff however she really seems to have no control over herself , god knows how she could control the children properly too. The scariest thing is she seems to pass the ED things onto the children , as in giving them portions and meals SHE thinks suit what'll help her. Idk whether to feel sorry for her or not? She's clearly struggling but it doesn't seem as though she's helping herself?

 

[wonderwo]

hmm thoughts?

my best friend and I grew apart, she moved to Europe married this German guy and has 2 kids no dogs, I like in America, live with my forever bf and have 2 dogs, we dont know yet if we want kids but we want to rescue more dogs, my friend and i send funny memes and check every once in awhile how are we doing and all that but conversations are just not the same, i think with kids people just grow apart that my experience with my married with kids anyways maybe they just talk to their parents friends, so I can see where he comes from

Anna has many issues and making money off YouTube by exposing her life makes it all ten times worse. She is not happy. Recently it has been clearer than ever.

She was what 19? when she met Jono. She had ED. She lost her dad and got into this bizarre relationship. He was her first serious boyfriend, much older and from different background. As she was from the upper league (her look, her upbringing), he was worshiping her.
So she liked being this blonde princess, gave up educational challenges and went for easy money. It worked but she ended up with four kids she has no time or patience for (i am not saying now, when it is hard for everyone, but always), no friends, no passion.

she hasnt looked happy one bit ever since moving to the new house her main concern seem to be perfect tidy gray house/perfect hair and makeup all of the time, the more she has the more miserable she looks (shouldnt it be the other way around? not caue of material possessions and more money but because financial stability makes things easier)

maybe she thinks shes more now than before and their lives need to be seen "proper", thats one of the reasons why I stoped watching I also dislike lots other things about the vlogs, i dont watch anymore just come her to check whats new with them i dont think the kids should be providing for them thats why i dont give them my views anymore even if it think they are adorable I watched a little bit of todays vlog but I cant anymore, plus Jonathan putting wigs on Alesia and on himself TO PUBLISH on social media not just to pass time ,he could be entertaining Alessia with other less bizarre activities
Anna isnt happy there now because she needs to be in full control of everything being perfect (cooking, cleaning, homeschooling, everything) and it just wont be, BUT because most parents are having a hard time homeschooling at home they thinks Anna complaining will make then relatable when in reality Anna started complaining a long time ago

 

[Thedudeabides]

I agree with a comment I just read saying that Anna isn't happy. I feel like as bad of a person she portrays herself to be, there's definitely something going ln, yes she shows herself to be selfish and stuff however she really seems to have no control over herself , god knows how she could control the children properly too. The scariest thing is she seems to pass the ED things onto the children , as in giving them portions and meals SHE thinks suit what'll help her. Idk whether to feel sorry for her or not? She's clearly struggling but it doesn't seem as though she's helping herself?

I think there is no excuse for her not to get therapy. She has the means to bypass the terrible waiting lists for mental health treatment through the NHS. I am sure she could set up video sessions with a private therapist specialising in ED and personality disorders.

 

[reader87123]

Anna in today's vlog 'I'm such a people pleaser, I wish I could be more selfish' WTF??

 

[Celandine]

Watching 'Joe Lycett has your back' (lockdown living!!) and there was a segment on CCTV cameras being hacked/steamed online for anyone around the world to watch.
SJs immediately came to mind. I hope no-one every hacks in to their system. Poor kids are exposed enough as it is.

 

[Patsy]

Hi, I don’t watch them often so don’t really have any comments for here but I’ve just watched today’s vlog and needed to comment on Anna being exhausted at 8am after Alessia put lipstick in Andrea. It’s the same as when Andrea smashed the lamp that morning recently. Why isn’t anyone watching them all of the time? Alessia and most definitely Andrea are too young to be unsupervised and they’re taking huge risks by allowing them to be.

 

[Hello-123]

Just watched the vlog, is it me or is the portion sizes for the children’s MAIN MEAL look like something a child would snack on in the day. Was actually so shocked at how little it looked on the plate. It seems Anna goes through all that cooking with so many ingredients for the children to end up with what seems so little on the plate at the end? Can’t understand how they wouldn’t be hungry after that??

 

[wonderfulthingabouttigger]

1) Can’t say I disagree with this comment think Jonathan did though

2) Oh boohoo

3) Proving his alcohol dependency

also notice how we were saying how he only replies to the same few people (who happened to be the skinny young ones) and now he’s making a point of replying to lots of them? They definitely read here

 

[Bouncer]

Just watched the vlog, is it me or is the portion sizes for the children’s MAIN MEAL look like something a child would snack on in the day. Was actually so shocked at how little it looked on the plate. It seems Anna goes through all that cooking with so many ingredients for the children to end up with what seems so little on the plate at the end? Can’t understand how they wouldn’t be hungry after that??

It’s actually quite shocking how little they’re given to eat. Although what Anna cooks looks so unappetising the poor things probably don’t want a larger portion anyway. Why, oh why can’t she cook normal food?! Roast chicken, mashed potatoes, green vegs, etc. There‘s nothing wrong and everything right about children being allowed to enjoy e.g. fishfingers and beans. A homemade Spaghetti Bolognese if she insists on her Italian heritage food fgs. . It’s unbelievable what she serves up.

 

[rlovsky]

I think there is no excuse for her not to get therapy. She has the means to bypass the terrible waiting lists for mental health treatment through the NHS. I am sure she could set up video sessions with a private therapist specialising in ED and personality disorders.

I have a feeling that although Anna plays dumb and makes a lot of bad and selfish choices, she’s intelligent enough to know deep down that therapy would mean confronting reality and her demons. And the reality is that she (at the very least) has food and anxiety issues that affect her daily life. And that she is financially dependent on someone that takes advantage of her issues in order to control her AND profits off of the exploitation of their children for his livelihood. Coming to terms with that would mean living with that or leaving him and I think she’s too scared to do the latter.

I do hope she takes the leap and starts seeing a therapist.

 

[Linnyloo]

my best friend and I grew apart, she moved to Europe married this German guy and has 2 kids no dogs, I like in America, live with my forever bf and have 2 dogs, we dont know yet if we want kids but we want to rescue more dogs, my friend and i send funny memes and check every once in awhile how are we doing and all that but conversations are just not the same, i think with kids people just grow apart that my experience with my married with kids anyways maybe they just talk to their parents friends, so I can see where he comes from


she hasnt looked happy one bit ever since moving to the new house her main concern seem to be perfect tidy gray house/perfect hair and makeup all of the time, the more she has the more miserable she looks (shouldnt it be the other way around? not caue of material possessions and more money but because financial stability makes things easier)

maybe she thinks shes more now than before and their lives need to be seen "proper", thats one of the reasons why I stoped watching I also dislike lots other things about the vlogs, i dont watch anymore just come her to check whats new with them i dont think the kids should be providing for them thats why i dont give them my views anymore even if it think they are adorable I watched a little bit of todays vlog but I cant anymore, plus Jonathan putting wigs on Alesia and on himself TO PUBLISH on social media not just to pass time ,he could be entertaining Alessia with other less bizarre activities
Anna isnt happy there now because she needs to be in full control of everything being perfect (cooking, cleaning, homeschooling, everything) and it just wont be, BUT because most parents are having a hard time homeschooling at home they thinks Anna complaining will make then relatable when in reality Anna started complaining a long time ago

She needs to bloody grow up!

 

[Thedudeabides]

I have a feeling that although Anna plays dumb and makes a lot of bad and selfish choices, she’s intelligent enough to know deep down that therapy would mean confronting reality and her demons. And the reality is that she (at the very least) has food and anxiety issues that affect her daily life. And that she is financially dependent on someone that takes advantage of her issues in order to control her AND profits off of the exploitation of their children for his livelihood. Coming to terms with that would mean living with that or leaving him and I think she’s too scared to do the latter.

I do hope she takes the leap and starts seeing a therapist.

I completely agree with this. Having watched the Stacey Dooley documentary at the time he came across as a coiled spring, creepy doofus!

 

[Bon Qui Qui]

So strange to see she gives the kids such tiny portions, because I remember when she used to give Emilia huge portions. I don't remember her giving Eddie giant portions though. How can she still be this clueless about what her kids needs are after 8 yrs and 4 kids?

 

[gloriouscheesecake]

So strange to see she gives the kids such tiny portions, because I remember when she used to give Emilia huge portions. I don't remember her giving Eddie giant portions though. How can she still be this clueless about what her kids needs are after 8 yrs and 4 kids?

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might explain why baby emilia was so tubby. i mean you don't want babies that have no meat on them either. she probably hated how tubby she made emilia and refused to feed her other children the same way and restrict them the way she restricts herself. and thats sad.

Ive just had a thought, mostly because i saw this on lucy jesscia carters stories though. If the kids are going to be on their screens more, why doesn't she set them up in BBC Bitesize, they do lessons at stuff from about age 5! I Used it for my GSCE's very good.