Ruby Granger #28 What a depacle!

[gossip_guy]

Isn't it so boring to write essentially the same book twice over? I struggle sometimes to work properly on the book I'm writing, and it's all new ideas / plot points than what I've written before.

For anyone else, it'd be incredibly boring and creatively unfulfilling to rehash the same book twice. For Ruby it's a dream come true, since she loves taking every shortcut she can and avoiding work. She's not in this for the creative passion and fulfilment, so that's not a problem for her.

Erimentha was a cobbled-together mess of stolen plot points and clichés pulled from the middle-grade bullying books she was reading at the time. Now she gets to recycle that entire book, slap on some stolen plot points from YA mysteries that she's suddenly interested in and she has another book with no real work of her own.

 

[StatusWoe]

What pasta? ...I don't know if I really wanna know

I think they're referring to this

How great is this view though?! (Note CMBYN on the table)

 

[StatusWoe]

lol I went on tiktok for the first time in months and was slapped in the face with this, it was AXTUALLY quite terrifying

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Also, in case you were wondering. Glad to see she’s being productive and finally organising the months in order of preference, instead of spending her time on something silly like doing youtube or getting a job.

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This is hilarious. It's like self-parody.

 

[teflonpanda]

where we flying bestie

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This looks like a meme template if I ever saw one xD

 

[teflonpanda]

Not a silly question at all. Going "on submission" means Ruby’s agent going to start trying to sell the book to a publisher. They pitch the book, send the manuscript off, a publisher might buy it, they might tell Ruby to go away, rewrite and come back another time, or they might just laugh hysterically for several weeks and say, "Hell no."

Oh this is interesting - so if I understood that correctly, Ruby's agent (who must have nerves of steel to work with Ruby "I AM A WRITER" Granger lmao) has been trying to sell Ruby's book since spring - I wonder how long it usually takes to get a publisher to buy a book? Like what is the timeline here? Because it would be really funny if this just drags on for months and months without any results - and also, what did Ruby need to take the gap year for if the book is already finished and now it's just her agent contacting publishing companies? It doesn't exactly sound like this is a full-time job for Ruby at this point, so why again does she need to sit in her childhood bedroom for a year in order to become a WRITER? Couldn't she just take a job (wild idea, I know) or go solo travelling or sth while her agent does her thing? This whole writing gap year thing just doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[StatusWoe]

You will discover everything there is to discover about her by taking a 15 second look at her yt channel

Noo, she's insufferable. Actually think she's even more pretentious than Ruby, just in a very different way. Those emojis were accurate. Especially this They have the same management? That explains a lot.

She even has a Paris video too! I think we should crowdfund an apartment for Dakota, Ruby, Jack and Jade so they all get to be flatmates far away from me.

 

[Elekktra]

I haven't watched Ruby in the longest time but wtf is this video? Being that wound up about a 74 is so unhealthy.

The only time it matters is when you're pursuing academia and your offer says something like 'need a 65 in the dissertation component'. Is she pursuing academia? I don't even know anymore. Anything 70+ is fine though. I'm sure Ruby would be shocked to know I have a PhD with a ..low 2.1 in my bachelor's, and my friend on my PhD cohort (who is now a successful lecturer) only got a merit in her master's dissertation (and it was a low one - something like 62%)

Congrats! And thanks for explaining all this.
Ruby makes it look like you're gonna die if you don't get the best grade lol.

 

[juswanto]

she intends to keep doing what she's always done, she says. and I believe that.

while also trying to "step outside of that sometimes", which surely can't hurt?

but i do agree it's hard to hold much hope. this anti "toxic productivity" spiel she rolls out does often just seem like a facade over a facade over a facade

 

[annagerda83]

To be fair to Ruby, she is a grubby little goblin but that’s not just ‘her’ coffee machine - the whole family is just as bad. It’s obvious that she’s never been taught to clean, and she’s probably never really had to clean up after herself either. Her parents have done her a huge disservice in bringing her up that way.

Not being clean is one of those things that’s just seen as eccentric when you’re rich, and the Grangers can get away with it because it’s a million-pound house and a three hundred-pound coffee machine that’s filthy. A family in a lower socio-economic bracket wouldn’t have that privilege.

Agree, seeing Ruby’s distaste in coffee I believe she rarely even use the machine

 

[FolderDuvet]

I suppose you have to bear in mind that she was in her final year of university so no doubt had plenty of coursework to complete. So there will have been a lot less "free" time to read.

I know during term-time, I did a lot less reading for pleasure than I would have liked, as there was always a deadline around the corner, so for me, 60 books would have been an incredible number.

I really enjoy reading, but I like to take my time with books to really engage with the material, and also take 2-3 days break before starting a new one to give myself time to really "digest" it and think about it, maybe read some reviews to see what others have thought of it and maybe throw in some non-fiction to cleanse the palate so to speak, before diving into a new world with new characters.

It's why I'd probably never do a readathon, unless maybe all the books were part of the same series, like A Song of Ice and Fire for example.

I don't have any yearly reading goals and I think it's something that would just make me tempted to choose shorter or easier books to hit the number (which is something we see Ruby do frequently), instead of spending a solid week on a really challenging read with 600+ pages.

The only reason I brought up what I did was that I was also in my final year of a degree (masters year of an undergraduate masters), writing a dissertation, and preparing for exams. I do read the odd thing that is challenging, and that I like to take time to digest, but I fill in the gaps around those books with chaff, mostly. I find, if you pick certain books at the right level (could be YA, but doesn't necessarily have to be) reading becomes far more like watching TV than serious study. Hence, I ended up replacing all my individual consumption activities (watching TV, browsing social media) with reading.

Again, I don't consider this impressive. The books aren't hard. They're not earth shattering. I could have gotten through a lot of the TV shows people have been suggesting to me. I simply wanted to draw in the fact that Ruby claims she reads absolutely loads, like every chance she gets. She seems to read a lot of things that are not all that hard (this doesn't mean they don't have things to say, mind.) Now, if she was taking her time of the children's and YA fiction she reads to analyse and consider them, then I would not have a point. However, you would think she has more to say about them than she does.

idk about 'impressive' (I dont think reading any number of books is impressive. people should read for enjoyment and not to impress themselves or other people), but 60 books in 6 months is a lot. thats a book every 3 days. it's not realistic for most people with responsibilities, work, school imo. I dont think a 'low output' of reading is Ruby's problem - it's that she skims books and rarely delves into the text. If Ruby read 5 books a year and actually engaged with the content she would get much more out of her reading. LMFAO lets not act like Ruby needs to do any more of those ridiculous 'I read 5 books in a day videos'. Quantity means nothing.

Absolutely. This is the thing I was trying to get across. As a student in more or less Ruby's position this year who also very much enjoys reading, I manage to churn through and actually read far more books of a similar quality than she has. I was trying to contextualise her quantity in the context of her quality.

I agree here. I don't think reading is about "output" (idk what that's even supposed to mean, you're not putting anything out, surely it's more about putting something in). If your primary way of quantifying what you've read is the number of books, that seems pretty shallow and performative. It really means nothing. Reading a book does not equal fully absorbing the information. Purposefully reading something slower can mean you're being more thoughtful about the writing. There are plenty of people who will read one book to every 5 that Ruby does, and still get way more out of it than she ever will.

I think people are willfully misunderstanding my reading strategy (and the reading strategies of people who read a lot.) For me there are two classes of books. Books strictly for pleasure, and books that also challenge and stimulate. I use the former kind to pad around the latter kind. This means I can still be reading when I'm not in the mood for something challenging. Not every book one reads has to be earthshatteringly poignant and difficult (well, unless you follow Nietzsche's content diet.)

ANYWAY: To restate my point, I was just considering eternal refrain of these threads: Ruby doesn't actually read that much. And what she does read she doesn't consume critically. As someone in a similar position to her who reads books of a similar level, I managed to read far more, and I'm not even doing it to maintain an online persona and make money. I'm currently coming to terms with the deceptive way she presents herself, and this was just one of those things where I realised her facade.

 

[bookworm39]

I would 100% watch those vlogs though.

Could you imagine her usual hyperspeed narration plus cocaine though? I find it hard to follow her on her normal speeded up talking!

 

[timemoveson]

Translation: "OIY...fully ACKSPACKTED this tyoo bee yat another proj-ACKT that OIY...gave up on immediately after stealing ideas from a few small YouTubers, boht since OIY'VE...been called out for ghyosting all the gryoups that OIY...sat up, oiy guess OIY'LL...message in hyahrr once or twice now there's more eyes on me."

I hope people continue to call her out

 

[morganmichelle]

can't believe I really made an account here. lol it's fun to read the stuff about Ruby, but I also feel a bit bad?! I mean, I'm in my late 30s. I really don't have a life.
I always wanted to be a writer. My first attempts at the tender age of 7-ish were ... well, I'm still waiting for my Pulitzer Prize! Reading the blurb of her book reminds me a bit of the stories I wrote as a kid.
If Ruby can do it, I can do it too, right? (funnily enough, I have the time, because I'm graduating from university at the end of the year and still have no plans for the future. If I pretend to be an author, it should work with my book, I guess. And I even got inspired by said wannabe-writer/youtuber/our favourite person).

btw I still don't understand what exactly getting a first means other than getting a first is very good. The British system is so different from the German. But "first" sounds better than 1 oder very good or 1.0 oder whatever.

Your English is great so don't take this as me making fun because I'm absolutely not (I'm also fluent in German), but I love how you wrote 'oder' instead of googling what 'oder' is in English

 

[xoxoxo13]

Very off-topic but have seen that Eve Bennett has a boyfriend now and seems to be thriving and do not see it (partly because she seems so much more "normal" and grown up than Ruby) but do you see Ruby putting herself out there or getting a relationship anytime soon?

For all we know, she may be asexual and occasionally I get those vibes, yet I do feel that a relationship or something to get her out of the family bubble would be hugely beneficial for her and her personal growth. She seems too childlike for it to manifest, though.

12 year olds don't have boyfriends!!!!!!!
Also the ED is probably killing all her hormones so I doubt it even more now.

 

[Griftwood]

When do we think Ruby will get the degree results?

Her graduation is on July 12, so sometime before that.

 

[pineapplesandcheese]

This may just be my imagination but I've noticed that if you compare Ruby's most recent videos to ones from 3+ years ago, her fake posh accent is so much stronger now, she didn't over enunciate as much back then. I wonder why she's ramped it up when she's mostly dropped the Hermione imitation thing?

 

[emmer_moans]

When do we think Ruby will get the degree results?

 

[MissGGG]

But surely the better the uni is, the harder it is to get a first? Oxbridge (and Durham, UCL, Imperial, etc.) are likely to have good students, true, but they also hold their students to a higher standard. It seems to me that the percentage of firsts should be roughly the same at universities across the board as the difficulty of the degree and the ability of the students balance each other out. Getting into a ‘better’ university doesn’t necessarily mean that you’ll automatically be awarded a higher class of degree; it’s not about the prestige of the university or even the quality of teaching, but the work you do as a student. Everybody within the same subject receives the same teaching but not everyone gets the same result; by your logic everyone at Oxbridge, once they’d been accepted, would breeze through and receive a first just because it’s a top university. I’m not an expert but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t work like that.

The issue comes when an increasing number of job applications are "university blind" (where they don't view the university when making decisions) or when pre-filtering simply removes everyone who didn't get a first, and this seems to be the main reason why people argue the better universities should have more firsts. Because at Oxbridge (and other top unis, but I'll just use Oxbridge for the ease of typing it out) the standard is higher - students have been taught more and in more depth than at other universities, and will have done a lot more work. If the class of degree is being used to compare students at different universities, shouldn't it reflect the ability of the students compared to the rest of the country, and not just those at their own university?

Of course, it's not a direct one-to-one comparison, but a 2.i from Oxbridge can involve as much, if not more work and knowledge than first at a mid-ranked university. By no means am I saying that people at Oxbridge are entitled to a first simply by virtue of being at Oxbridge, not at all. The standards are, and should be, very high. I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it myself, as the minute you start trying to inflate grades at one university, you seem to devalue them at the same time, and arguments like this can very easily shaft the brilliant students who happened to not go to Oxbridge for any number of reasons. I definitely don't mean to imply at all that other students' work is not valuable and shouldn't be rewarded.

I think the main question is whether class should reflect your ranking within a particular university, allowing employers to make their own judgements about the value of a particular university compared to another; your ranking within the country, however that would be determined; or even perhaps just a comparison against predetermined boundaries, where you can get a first for passing a particular threshold, regardless of how many other people manage.

 

[Elekktra]

I'm watching the results video and I can't really work out the names of the modules she did because of how she speaks

The module results she listed are:
YEAR 1
72 on academic English (that is what she said right?)
73 on poems
75 on the novel
74 on beginnings
72 on approaches to criticism
69 on introduction to creative writing
OVERALL YEAR 1: 72.63

YEAR 2
76 on religion and Holocaust memory and public life (please tell me I heard the name of this wrong)
73 on American literature
79 on theatrical and modern cultures of England
76 on 19th century writings
OVERALL YEAR 2: 76

YEAR 3
76 on Charles Dickens
80 on writing for children and young adults
74 on life and death in early modern literature
74 in the dissertation
OVERALL YEAR 3: 76

OVERALL MARK - 76

thankssss, i hoped someone would make a summary

 

[Griftwood]

This has to be one of my all time favourite comments on here, I’m dead

Same, I have an image in my head now of a random Tattler time-traveling to reach their hand into poor Mrs Tchaikovsky’s womb to yank out the unborn composer