Roe v. Wade

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I had no idea about the situation in Northern Ireland until recently. It’s abhorrent. I’m right in saying there’s a lot of homophobia there as well isn’t there?
We didn't have gay marriage here either until 2020 and might never have had it only Westminster pushed it through when our assembly werent sitting before.

If you'd like to be horrified feel free to google "DUP" (the second largest party in NI) and "homophobic comments"
 
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it’s only a matter of time before loving v virginia (interracial marriage) gets added into the mix too.
Really?
So what would be the test case?
And btw, the only people suggesting anything like this are all on the left.
 
I’m seeing a lot of anti choice people on Twitter sharing the Roe deathbed confession as they call it , I am finding it hard to follow what their actual point is , the angle they are going with is “ it’s all built on a lie!!” etc Out of curiosity, am I right in saying abortion was available in the UK prior to America or that at least , Roe vs Wade didn’t make any difference to the availability of safe abortions in Europe ? I haven’t watched the clips so I don’t know what the story is with this “confession” or whatever it is , I fail to see how it makes any difference, it has nothing to do with the fact that people should have a choice
 
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I’m seeing a lot of anti choice people on Twitter sharing the Roe deathbed confession as they call it , I am finding it hard to follow what their actual point is , the angle they are going with is “ it’s all built on a lie!!” etc Out of curiosity, am I right in saying abortion was available in the UK prior to America or that at least , Roe vs Wade didn’t make any difference to the availability of safe abortions in Europe ? I haven’t watched the clips so I don’t know what the story is with this “confession” or whatever it is , I fail to see how it makes any difference, it has nothing to do with the fact that people should have a choice
Abortion became legal in the UK in 1967. Roe v Wade was 1973.
 
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America, the new Afghanistan 😶

My young adult Christian Orthodox son was shocked yesterday when I told him that I had an unwanted pregnancy at age 40. I detailed all the different ways our lives would have been ruined if I'd had a third child. Thankfully, I lost it early on, but it could have been very different, and I'd have been one of those women he'd be condemning right now. He's directly benefitted from a pregnancy not continuing and he took that on board. I also explained to him that this ruling will cause countless deaths and ruined lives. Reproduction is womens business and we need full control. Nothing to do with anyone else. Nothing to do with men whatsoever. Women have been 'dealing with' their reproductive issues since humans began. It's a messy business, but it's our business.

I hope they can get abortion pills out to women. This seems like an easier and safer option.
 
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America, the new Afghanistan 😶

My young adult Christian Orthodox son was shocked yesterday when I told him that I had an unwanted pregnancy at age 40. I detailed all the different ways our lives would have been ruined if I'd had a third child. Thankfully, I lost it early on, but it could have been very different, and I'd have been one of those women he'd be condemning right now. He's directly benefitted from a pregnancy not continuing and he took that on board. I also explained to him that this ruling will cause countless deaths and ruined lives. Reproduction is womens business and we need full control. Nothing to do with anyone else. Nothing to do with men whatsoever. Women have been 'dealing with' their reproductive issues since humans began. It's a messy business, but it's our business.

I hope they can get abortion pills out to women. This seems like an easier and safer option.
I don’t know about that last part. Taking abortion pills is safe for the vast majority of women but sometimes things go wrong. Sometimes things are going right but it feels like something is going wrong because it’s painful. And it can be hard to hide - try explaining that to a partner or parent

Before legal abortion in Ireland the pill was used a lot but some women ended up going to their GP or hospital for reassurance. They could do that because they weren’t going to be shopped to police - the laws here were always targeted at suppliers who might exploit women rather than women themselves. Post abortive women were actually treated quite well with access to free health checks and counselling if needed.

Women in the US don’t have that safety net. They themselves will be treated like criminals. They will be face potential conviction and that will prevent many women seeking medical assistance if something goes wrong. And that’s not to mention all the other women who have miscarriages of wanted babies who may now find themselves under suspicion if the authorities have reason to believe she might have tried to abort.

This isn’t just about abortion. It’s set womens rights in the US back decades. It’s impact will be felt in employment, health care, housing etc. It will once again put the onus on women to be a “good girl “ and save herself for a serious relationship or marriage while men get to do what they want with who they want with no repercussions or damage to their reputation.
 
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I’m seeing a lot of anti choice people on Twitter sharing the Roe deathbed confession as they call it , I am finding it hard to follow what their actual point is , the angle they are going with is “ it’s all built on a lie!!” etc Out of curiosity, am I right in saying abortion was available in the UK prior to America or that at least , Roe vs Wade didn’t make any difference to the availability of safe abortions in Europe ? I haven’t watched the clips so I don’t know what the story is with this “confession” or whatever it is , I fail to see how it makes any difference, it has nothing to do with the fact that people should have a choice
Abortion was even available in the US prior to Roe v Wade. The only point of Roe v Wade is that it took the decision out of the states hands, thats all. Hence why there is still legal abortion in lots of parts of the US but not all of them.
 
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It will be scary if the red states in the US introduce something akin to what Poland have. They have introduced a 'pregnancy register' which will be essentially used to track pregnant woman.
 
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I have to admit it here but I am burying my head in sand about this. I have PTSD from having a miscarriage and then fighting tooth and nail to repeal the 8th amendment in Ireland whilst pregnant on both child.

I am only realising now how traumatising it was and I have done my fighting, now dealing with the trauma. People in America have an almightly fight on their hands, my heart goes out to them. But having to have a not my circus, not my monkeys approach for my own mental health.

Being pregnant in a country with v little abortion rights is truly horrifying!
 
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I have to admit it here but I am burying my head in sand about this. I have PTSD from having a miscarriage and then fighting tooth and nail to repeal the 8th amendment in Ireland whilst pregnant on both child.

I am only realising now how traumatising it was and I have done my fighting, now dealing with the trauma. People in America have an almightly fight on their hands, my heart goes out to them. But having to have a not my circus, not my monkeys approach for my own mental health.

Being pregnant in a country with v little abortion rights is truly horrifying!
I know the feeling. I’m still affected by it. It was weird but nowhere near as weird as the American fight will be. Reading about this I’m definitely feeling a lot of the old stuff coming back up, I’m really having to censor where I post now because engagement with a lot of anti abortion people is almost like self harm. Focus on yourself and your own mental well being.
 
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It will be scary if the red states in the US introduce something akin to what Poland have. They have introduced a 'pregnancy register' which will be essentially used to track pregnant woman.
i’ve already seen a lot of people being told to delete their period tracker apps etc. the truly sad thing is that we live in an age of almost unprecedented digital surveillance, especially in the us - i think it’s only a step away from an official register, but there will certainly be some kind of monitoring in.

don’t forget that texas (for one) had a number where you could report someone for having an abortion and get a monetary reward for it. they’re basically encouraging people to monitor :(
 
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I know the feeling. I’m still affected by it. It was weird but nowhere near as weird as the American fight will be. Reading about this I’m definitely feeling a lot of the old stuff coming back up, I’m really having to censor where I post now because engagement with a lot of anti abortion people is almost like self harm. Focus on yourself and your own mental well being.
It blows my mind that there will be abortion in some states and not in others pretty much how it is now but worse. We had to get a boat or plane before we had more rights, I kept shuddering when I thought about Covid and the fact woman would have been forced to keep a pregancy during Covid and travel bans.

I am not sharing anything on my social media about and not engaging with people about it either. Look after your own MH too, I am concentrating on the issues closer to home.
 
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No more self either lads. Those are future cancer curing babies your getting all over the towels.
 
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I’m so angry about this. Men telling women what to do with their own bodies. It’s barbaric and woman hating.

It’s also not about the sanctity of life AT ALL. In a country where people in those same states are put to death and mentally unwell people are able to acquire military grade assault rifles.
 
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