Refusing the Covid 19 Vaccine #3 & general vaccine conversation

[kiyu]

Eliza, what a lovely kind message to see this morning. Thank you for taking your time to write to me, I appreciate it so much.

Thank you for your reassurance. I don’t know what day we would class today as but my daughter started with a cold on Friday evening and she tested positive on Friday evening, she then had a positive PCR on Saturday so I don’t know whether today is day 4 or 5. Do we count Friday? Ha ha. I’m trying my best to stay strong and there are times I get upset and I have a little cry on my own in my room because I don’t want anyone else to see that. My husband is run off his feet, he works full time at home at the moment and he’s the one doing all the cleaning after she uses the bathroom, all the cooking etc because he wants me to stay out the way so I don’t catch anything. I feel so sorry for him but I appreciate everything he’s doing. We are all exhausted with it already and just want to over.

My daughter is coping really well, she started with a bunged up nose, then went onto develop a fever, aching body, headache, painful eyes, then yesterday she had a sore throat and she developed a nasty cough. Last night she lost her sense of smell but taste is fine which she’s glad of as she’s a foodie She is in good spirits though and she is so mature and doesn’t want any of us to get this. Her 3 friends are ok, one lost her smell but no other symptoms, another asymptomatic and her closest friend has a cold. My daughter seems to have it the worst which is odd as she’s a healthy girl, eats so healthy and takes her vitamins. She has shingles this spring, the drs said she had it severe for a child she was so unwell, my daughter said covid is nothing compared to shingles haha.

She is so funny every time she goes to the bathroom she puts on the family group chat for everyone to stay in the rooms and she goes across the landing with her mask on gloves and armed with her Dettol spray She then tells none of us to use the bathroom until her dad is wiped it down. She is so funny.

It helps that I can come here and be honest to people because I don’t have anyone in my life I can be completely honest with, like I said I don’t have a mum or sisters in my life, I opened up a bit to my friend yesterday after she asked how my daughter was and in her words ‘oh bless her, it is really bad it’s like the worst flu ever’. Which scared me to death because I didn’t really need to hear that So having this place helps me.

My daughter is FaceTiming me all the time, we’re playing games against eachother on our iPads which is fun. The film idea is fab, thank you. I miss her so much, I want to hug her and take care of her but I can’t. It’s horrible. I stupidly told my Mum via text after she did her occasional ‘hope you’re ok’ text., she isn’t in my life physically as I walked away from my family as I was assaulted by a family member 9 years ago and my Mother didn’t support me, she was extremely abusive towards me infront of my children, and during my childhood. I had therapy for ptsd so I’m all good but this week has opened some old wounds with her. She just did her usual ‘no point worrying, just get on with it’ response when I told her about my daughter. Her usual hard unloving attitude and she hasn’t even rung or messaged my daughter to wish her well. Or asked if we need anything. This has made old wounds open because I’m missing my daughter like crazy and I’m-so worried about her, Yet when I developed a chronic illness my Mum never ever rung or came to see me. She would go 12 weeks without her ‘hope you’re ok’ copy and paste text. Hence why in the end I walked away. It’s just made me think how can a Mum not worry when their child is ill, or show they care. Sorry, didn’t mean to offload that but it’s opened some old wounds this week.

Thank you for your kind offer, I don’t think we can share our Instagram names here as I tried with another member at one point. Admin I understand why, I just didn’t want Eliza to think I ignored her kind offer to chat to me off here.

Thank you for being so kind,I really appreciate your message x

Sounds like your daughter is doing really well and she's doing amazing with the masking and Dettol

When we were isolating, we counted from the days when the symptoms started but I don't know if anything a has changed guidance wise or if I just made it up like that I guess if you wanted to or felt safer you could do it from the positive test

You sound like a wonderful mum and the bond you have with your daughter is lovely I'm sorry to hear about what you went through (and are still going through) with your own mum. I know some wounds can't be healed but sometimes they open back up again and allow our bodies, minds and psyche process a little bit more and release it ... I know that sounds a bit cuckoo but any kind of trauma I believe stays in the body and can manifest in so many ways so in some ways as much as it is not nice it can be a positive to go over the old ground in some cases. I hope it isn't too draining on you xx

 

[Jc456]

When we were isolating, we counted from the days when the symptoms started but I don't know if anything a has changed guidance wise or if I just made it up like that I guess if you wanted to or felt safer you could do it from the positive test

Yes my eldest was from pcr date as she was asymptomatic and youngest from symptoms (day before pcr)

 

[monga]

Scottish data by vaccine status

 

[cill2019]

The media is going full force tonight. The opening line of BBC Newsline tonight “a senior Dr has stated bodies will pile up if more people don’t get vaccinated”
Bodies didn’t pile up last year when NO ONE was vaccinated
Honestly it’s just becoming too much. I’m becoming terrified

 

[Purrrrrrr]

The media is going full force tonight. The opening line of BBC Newsline tonight “a senior Dr has stated bodies will pile up if more people don’t get vaccinated”
Bodies didn’t pile up last year when NO ONE was vaccinated
Honestly it’s just becoming too much. I’m becoming terrified

Turn the news off! Turn live TV off. Honestly, life feels so much better without it. The media is the pandemic and cancer. it's not news, it's just fear porn.

 

[cill2019]

Turn the news off! Turn live TV off. Honestly, life feels so much better without it. The media is the pandemic and cancer. it's not news, it's just fear porn.

Putting Downton Abbey back on. I don’t even know why I put the news on

 

[Purrrrrrr]

Putting Downton Abbey back on. I don’t even know why I put the news on

Sometimes the news comes on while I am driving. my mood goes right down, or a phone in with the BBC presenters doing their propaganda BS, it makes me so sick and angry.

 

[Cupcakemum]

Scottish data by vaccine status View attachment 750469

It's not funny at all, but I laugh because people were warned

The media is going full force tonight. The opening line of BBC Newsline tonight “a senior Dr has stated bodies will pile up if more people don’t get vaccinated”
Bodies didn’t pile up last year when NO ONE was vaccinated
Honestly it’s just becoming too much. I’m becoming terrified

They're getting desperate again. Like Purrrr says, turn it off. Without it life is normal.

Imagine if everyday you were told of all the terrorist threats intelligence agencies knew about, or how many sex offenders were in your area - you never leave the house!

The saying ignorance is bliss has never been more true!

 

[monga]

Wow!

 

[stun_zeed]

Wow!

But, why? Vaccinating children is purely an academic exercise.

 

[monga]

More in-depth study to take place I thought they’d ruled out any link to the vaccines

 

[ChineseAlan]

Sounds like your daughter is doing really well and she's doing amazing with the masking and Dettol

When we were isolating, we counted from the days when the symptoms started but I don't know if anything a has changed guidance wise or if I just made it up like that I guess if you wanted to or felt safer you could do it from the positive test

You sound like a wonderful mum and the bond you have with your daughter is lovely I'm sorry to hear about what you went through (and are still going through) with your own mum. I know some wounds can't be healed but sometimes they open back up again and allow our bodies, minds and psyche process a little bit more and release it ... I know that sounds a bit cuckoo but any kind of trauma I believe stays in the body and can manifest in so many ways so in some ways as much as it is not nice it can be a positive to go over the old ground in some cases. I hope it isn't too draining on you xx

Thank you so much.

Yes I think trauma is most definitely stored in the body, I developed CFS and an underactive thyroid and I just know it was due to all the stress and trauma that I went through 9 years ago. My GP even agreed with me and there’s lots of studies that show that trauma can lead to chronic fatigue syndrome amongst other chronic illnesses.

My daughter is doing really well, she started with slight symptoms on the Friday evening and that was why she tested. She tested on the Thursday night at midnight and was negative, she tested with LFT on Friday evening and she was positive, she had a positive PCR on Saturday. So I don’t know whether we count Friday as day 1. If we go from the PCR day which is Saturday does she come out of isolation on the 15th or the 14th because the 14th is day 10 but I don’t know whether that means you have to complete day 10. I find it all very confusing I just want to know when I can relax I’m safe.

It’s been a long week and it’s only Wednesday, I’m exhausted and I just really want this to be over. We are all staying at home but our eldest child obviously is kicking up a fuss because he wants to go and see his friends so he’s causing stress that we don’t need on top. He’s an absolute nightmare at times and it takes its toll. My husband doesn’t stop from the minute he finishes work he’s cleaning the house to be safe, he cleans the bathroom after every time she uses it. It’s just a really stressful, tiring time. I just hope we don’t have to go through another 10 days and the rest will stay negative. xx

Yes my eldest was from pcr date as she was asymptomatic and youngest from symptoms (day before pcr)

My daughter had a bad stomach on the Friday in school and a slight cold starting in the evening so she tested and was positive at home. She then did a PCR on the Saturday and was positive. So we don’t know if we count Friday as day 1 or Saturday. I also don’t know whether we come out of isolation on the 14th which is the 10th day or the day after the 15th once we’ve completed the 10th day. So confusing.

 

[Jc456]

Thank you so much.

Yes I think trauma is most definitely stored in the body, I developed CFS and an underactive thyroid and I just know it was due to all the stress and trauma that I went through 9 years ago. My GP even agreed with me and there’s lots of studies that show that trauma can lead to chronic fatigue syndrome amongst other chronic illnesses.

My daughter is doing really well, she started with slight symptoms on the Friday evening and that was why she tested. She tested on the Thursday night at midnight and was negative, she tested with LFT on Friday evening and she was positive, she had a positive PCR on Saturday. So I don’t know whether we count Friday as day 1. If we go from the PCR day which is Saturday does she come out of isolation on the 15th or the 14th because the 14th is day 10 but I don’t know whether that means you have to complete day 10. I find it all very confusing I just want to know when I can relax I’m safe.

It’s been a long week and it’s only Wednesday, I’m exhausted and I just really want this to be over. We are all staying at home but our eldest child obviously is kicking up a fuss because he wants to go and see his friends so he’s causing stress that we don’t need on top. He’s an absolute nightmare at times and it takes its toll. My husband doesn’t stop from the minute he finishes work he’s cleaning the house to be safe, he cleans the bathroom after every time she uses it. It’s just a really stressful, tiring time. I just hope we don’t have to go through another 10 days and the rest will stay negative. xx


My daughter had a bad stomach on the Friday in school and a slight cold starting in the evening so she tested and was positive at home. She then did a PCR on the Saturday and was positive. So we don’t know if we count Friday as day 1 or Saturday. I also don’t know whether we come out of isolation on the 14th which is the 10th day or the day after the 15th once we’ve completed the 10th day. So confusing.

Have track and trace spoken to you? They told me which date and also emailed it to me. When I was positive they called a few times and called on the final day to see how I was

 

[ChineseAlan]

Have track and trace spoken to you? They told me which date and also emailed it to me. When I was positive they called a few times and called on the final day to see how I was

They didn’t tell us a date, just 10 days from pcr day, or day she had symptoms if tested after symptoms started. So I’m baffled.

 

[footylass2021]

“If you live in the same household as someone with COVID-19, you should stay at home and self-isolate. From 16 August, if you are fully vaccinated or aged under 18 years and 6 months you will not be required to self-isolate if you are a contact of someone who has tested positive for COVID-19.”

That’s from the government website.

hope you’re ok I know how worried you’ve been about this. I hope your daughter makes a speedy recovery and all of you remain negative. Thinking of you xx

Employers can still go by the old guidelines and enforce the self isolation so you would have to check with them too

 

[Jc456]

They didn’t tell us a date, just 10 days from pcr day, or day she had symptoms if tested after symptoms started. So I’m baffled.

July/August they went by temperature, cough and loss of smell and taste for symptoms. Did you give your email address?

 

[ChineseAlan]

July/August they went by temperature, cough and loss of smell and taste for symptoms. Did you give your email address?

Yes, they just emailed us her result, nothing more. She tested positive LFT Friday and Pcr Saturday with just cold type symptoms. She didn’t get cough, fever, loss of smell until late Saturday, Sunday and Monday.

 

[Jc456]

Yes, they just emailed us her result, nothing more. She tested positive LFT Friday and Pcr Saturday with just cold type symptoms. She didn’t get cough, fever, loss of smell until late Saturday, Sunday and Monday.

We all had our results from "Nhs covid notification" and then isolation dates from "nhs track and trace service". We had loads from track and trace as for each of us they identified us as a close contact.
My eldest had to do 10 days from pcr, her lft was positive. My youngest had a temp 1 day before her pcr so hers was from when she had the temperature xx

 

[ChineseAlan]

We all had our results from "Nhs covid notification" and then isolation dates from "nhs track and trace service". We had loads from track and trace as for each of us they identified us as a close contact.
My eldest had to do 10 days from pcr, her lft was positive. My youngest had a temp 1 day before her pcr so hers was from when she had the temperature xx

They just told us do to 10 days. So the 10th day is Tuesday if we count Saturday (pcr day) as day 1.

 

[stun_zeed]

They just told us do to 10 days. So the 10th day is Tuesday if we count Saturday (pcr day) as day 1.

I haven’t had time to read back on the past 20 pages or so, but I hope that you and your family have been well and your daughter is recovering!