Refusing the Covid 19 Vaccine #3 & general vaccine conversation

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I often wonder about the heart concerns for kids and then women being offered it in pregnancy how does the vaccine differentiate between heart tissue of a fetus and a child that's already born ? there could be a lot of congenital heart disease in future .
Hopefully not, if what we know at the moment remains true. If myocarditis and pericarditis is caused by an excessive autoantibody response and mRNA particles do not cross the placenta. Time will tell, but hopefully not.
 
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Having a little cry tonight. My family told me I’m coping so well, my husband is shocked how composed and calm I am, but tonight I needed a little cry.

My daughter has a headache, aching all over, snotty nose, pain in her eyes to move them, and tonight a fever. Poor sod has also started her period today, I mean come on!!! Give the poor girl a break. If she’s this poorly at nearly 16, I dread to think what it will do to me unvaccinated, nearly 42 with CFS. So tonight I’ve had a cry.

My daughters isolating. We’re all masked up if we use bathroom, handgel, gloves on to make food etc. All doing all we can. I bought my daughter a diffuser today so she’s diffusing some essential oils to help her in her room. Track and Trace said I’m going above and beyond what others do so fingers crossed the rest of us stay symptom free. I’m just concerned as I was around her yesterday before she tested and isolated so I’m expecting to get it if she was contagious around us yesterday and the day before, surely her isolating now makes no difference as she’s been around us before testing positive.

My husband is vaccinated, he tested negative last night and did a pcr today, he’s sleeping next to me as I struggle to sleep alone but I worry if he shouldn’t be in the same room as he’s the one cleaning and cooking. They’re ordering me to stay in my room as much as possible.

I really hope by some miracle the rest of us avoid this but I’m not hopeful 😥. I’m so frightened and although I’m seeming calm on the outside to everyone else, inside my ibs proves how worried and anxious I am lol.

When can I relax a little? Do I have to wait 10 days before I can? It’s my birthday in 10 days, lol. I can’t be on pins that long. I’ve barely eaten today as it set my ibs off so I’ve had a sore delicate tummy all day. I’m fit for nothing and need sleep. Thank you for all your kindness last night and today, you’re all so nice to me and I appreciate it 💜💜💜 xxxx
It's horrible to watch your child being ill, but she's been ill before and you won't have panicked.
Don't let the covid scary stories get in your head. Rather think that there's only around a 17/19% chance of it being spread in a household - which you can argue is even less as you have vaccinated people in your house. Then remember that CEV people still have a 97/98% chance of survival.
Try switching your thinking to the positives, hopefully that will help your anxieties a bit
 
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It's horrible to watch your child being ill, but she's been ill before and you won't have panicked.
Don't let the covid scary stories get in your head. Rather think that there's only around a 17/19% chance of it being spread in a household - which you can argue is even less as you have vaccinated people in your house. Then remember that CEV people still have a 97/98% chance of survival.
Try switching your thinking to the positives, hopefully that will help your anxieties a bit
Thank you.

Hearing positives like that helps, thank you so much. I’m just so low today. Last week I finally got back on my feet, even left the house a couple of times for a walk with my dog which I haven’t done in a couple of years due to having CFS/ME. I was on cloud 9 then a few hours later on the Friday my daughter tests positive and it all crashed down around me again. I feel ill from the worry and stress. Overdoing it cleaning etc my CFS isn’t happy. I’m on pins terrified I’ll catch it because she was contagious before she tested positive for 2 days before, so I’ve read. So that doesn’t bode well as she was around us all.

She’s isolated and we are being extremely careful, wearing masks around the house and I’m staying in my room as much as possible with windows open. She is in her room constantly with the window open. I’m exhausted and my husband has said I need to rest and he doesn’t want me walking around the house much in case I catch it.

My daughters friend that went to Leeds festival tested negative on LFT daily and she tested positive on PCR yesterday too: so now I’m so frustrated my daughter we to her house on Tuesday when I told her to stay away. So frustrated this could have been avoided 😞

My daughter is doing ok, just a cold really with a fever but it does scare me how much worse I’d get it. I know she will be ok but as selfish as it sounds I’m worried sick for myself 😞

Thank you, hearing anything positive helps me. I’m going to be on pins for the next 9 days waiting to start with symptoms x
 
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My daughter is doing ok, just a cold really with a fever but it does scare me how much worse I’d get it. I know she will be ok but as selfish as it sounds I’m worried sick for myself 😞

Thank you, heading anything positive helps me. I’m going to be on pins for the next 9 days waiting to start with symptoms x
I imagine we’d all have the same concerns, so it’s not selfish at all. There is honestly every chance that you won’t get it and if you do, that it will be just like getting the flu. Of course, the flu is no good for CFS either, I know. Our mind goes crazy when we’re scared, just take each day as it comes - that’s all you can do.

Glad to hear that your daughter is doing well and I hope she recovers quickly!
 
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I imagine we’d all have the same concerns, so it’s not selfish at all. There is honestly every chance that you won’t get it and if you do, that it will be just like getting the flu. Of course, the flu is no good for CFS either, I know. Our mind goes crazy when we’re scared, just take each day as it comes - that’s all you can do.

Glad to hear that your daughter is doing well and I hope she recovers quickly!
Thank you.

I’m terrified I really am. Today I’ve a slight headache and right nostril feels bit congested so convincing myself I’m next.it could all be stress. I don’t cope well with any illness since having cfs so this frightens me so much 🥲 Sorry to be a negative Nancy. That made me laugh, my Dad wanted to call me Nancy before I was born and my Mum refused 😂 xxx
 
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Thank you.

Hearing positives like that helps, thank you so much. I’m just so low today. Last week I finally got back on my feet, even led the house a couple of times for a walk which I haven’t done in a couple of years due to having a CFS/ME. I was on cloud 9 then a few hours later on the Friday my daughter tests positive and it all crashed down around me again: I feel ill from the worry and stress. Overdoing it cleaning etc my CFS isn’t happy. I’m on pins terrified I’ll catch it because she was contagious before she tested positive for 2 days I’ve read. So that doesn’t bode well as she was around us:

She’s isolated and we are being extremely careful, wearing masks around the house and I’m staying in my room as much as possible with windows open. She is in her room constantly with the window open. I’m exhausted and my husband has said I need to rest and he doesn’t want me walking around the house much in case I catch it.

My daughters friend that went to Leeds festival tested negative on LFT daily and she tested positive on PCR yesterday too: so now I’m so frustrated my daughter we fro her house on Tuesday when I told her to stay away. So frustrated this could have been avoided 😞

My daughter is doing ok, just a cold really with a fever but it does scare me how much worse I’d get it. I know she will be ok but as selfish as it sounds I’m worried sick for myself 😞

Thank you, heading anything positive helps me. I’m going to be on pins for the next 9 days waiting to start with symptoms x
Plenty of CEV people have had it and been fine. Stress is a bigger killer than covid will ever be. Please try to stop stressing over things you cannot change. keep going out and relaxing in the sunshine, if you have any there, if not fresh air without the sun will still be doing you a ton more good than sitting indoors worrying.

Every single person will get covid. So make sure you are doing everything you can to lessen the symptoms when you do, rather than stressfully trying to avoid it at all costs.

I don't know if I have had it or not. to be honest I don't care. I won't stress over it as my life was very stressful before and it lowered my immune system and I was forever getting everything going. If I get it I get it, if I get it and am very ill I will deal with it the same as I do everything. Just a heavy cold can and often does give me many chest problems. ( I should say did, because I don't really get them anymore)
When I was agoraphobic and living on my own I had pleurisy twice (due to my lung conditions) and dealt with it without any medical intervention If you have ever had pleurisy you will know how scary and painful it is.. but I'm still here still fighting. I have learnt how to prevent plurisy and my lungs are in better shape now than they were 9 years ago.

We are all here for you. you are not on your own in this.
 
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Thank you.

Hearing positives like that helps, thank you so much. I’m just so low today. Last week I finally got back on my feet, even left the house a couple of times for a walk with my dog which I haven’t done in a couple of years due to having CFS/ME. I was on cloud 9 then a few hours later on the Friday my daughter tests positive and it all crashed down around me again. I feel ill from the worry and stress. Overdoing it cleaning etc my CFS isn’t happy. I’m on pins terrified I’ll catch it because she was contagious before she tested positive for 2 days before, so I’ve read. So that doesn’t bode well as she was around us all.

She’s isolated and we are being extremely careful, wearing masks around the house and I’m staying in my room as much as possible with windows open. She is in her room constantly with the window open. I’m exhausted and my husband has said I need to rest and he doesn’t want me walking around the house much in case I catch it.

My daughters friend that went to Leeds festival tested negative on LFT daily and she tested positive on PCR yesterday too: so now I’m so frustrated my daughter we to her house on Tuesday when I told her to stay away. So frustrated this could have been avoided 😞

My daughter is doing ok, just a cold really with a fever but it does scare me how much worse I’d get it. I know she will be ok but as selfish as it sounds I’m worried sick for myself 😞

Thank you, hearing anything positive helps me. I’m going to be on pins for the next 9 days waiting to start with symptoms x
To be honest, and to put it bluntly I'd tit myself too, but we've been brainwashed now for 18mths.
We don't think about the millions of people that have survived or just had xold/flu symptoms. Our brains go to icu and death, which statistically is rare. Even when it does get bad and maybe hospital is needed the large amount of people don't even make it to icu, they manage with a bit of oxygen to bring their sats up and go home. All that can happen with the flu, but we don't panic about that every year.

It's keeping your head in the game, which is what this is. 66 million people are in this cramped little island and barely 10% have caught covid in almost 2yrs - which is meant to be super contagious.
Of that 10% around 1% have died - and we know they're not all from covid. We know that many were put down as that when it wasn't that.

I've known incredibly old people with multiple comorbitities survive it, and I've known some of them have barely had a cold with it. The news doesn't want you to know that though, their job is to keep you scared - that's why I say it's a game and that why we need to keep thinking rationally. It's not covid that is dangerous all the time, it's the mental strain it brings that's getting people and taking its toll
 
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Hopefully not, if what we know at the moment remains true. If myocarditis and pericarditis is caused by an excessive autoantibody response and mRNA particles do not cross the placenta. Time will tell, but hopefully not.
Well hopefully not but as they're saying the vaccines affect the tissue of the womb it's hard to be certain as that's what the placenta grows and feeds from I'm sure we won't have too long to wait to find out .
 
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@ChineseAlan im so sorry you’re going through this and hope that your daughter recovers quickly. With all your health problems it must be a huge worry for you.
I have to say I’ve been wavering on my vaccine decision. The government have now announced vax passports will be needed for all large events from October after assuring us this would never happen. How long until bars, restaurants and cafes insist on passports? Without the vax it looks like there will be no socialising or travel. But on the other hand I know of a few formally fit and healthy adults now having issues post vaccine, it’s not an easy choice and I hate the coercion.
 
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To be honest, and to put it bluntly I'd tit myself too, but we've been brainwashed now for 18mths.
We don't think about the millions of people that have survived or just had xold/flu symptoms. Our brains go to icu and death, which statistically is rare. Even when it does get bad and maybe hospital is needed the large amount of people don't even make it to icu, they manage with a bit of oxygen to bring their sats up and go home. All that can happen with the flu, but we don't panic about that every year.

It's keeping your head in the game, which is what this is. 66 million people are in this cramped little island and barely 10% have caught covid in almost 2yrs - which is meant to be super contagious.
Of that 10% around 1% have died - and we know they're not all from covid. We know that many were put down as that when it wasn't that.

I've known incredibly old people with multiple comorbitities survive it, and I've known some of them have barely had a cold with it. The news doesn't want you to know that though, their job is to keep you scared - that's why I say it's a game and that why we need to keep thinking rationally. It's not covid that is dangerous all the time, it's the mental strain it brings that's getting people and taking its toll
Thank you.

Yes, that’s very true, the media have damaged peoples mental health so much so that when my daughter tested positive I was terrified. I just had images of me in hospital on a ventilator and I was panicking. Yesterday I couldn’t eat anything I felt sick all day, I was just so scared. I have to pretend I’m fine to everyone at home because I don’t want to worry my daughter so I’m trying to remain upbeat but inside I’m really worried.

I hope we all avoid it. It’s so scary. 2 of us are vaccinated and me and my 17 year old aren’t. His bedroom is downstairs so he’s out of the way which he’s happy about. My bedroom is next to my daughters. I’ve got windows open and trying my best to stay calm and hopeful.

Were the people that you knew that avoided it vaccinated? My worry is because I’m not vaccinated what it could do to me if I catch it. I also don’t know when I can relax a little bit. Do I have to wait 10 days before I can be sure that I haven’t caught it ? I’m just fed up already and it’s only the second day. She tested positive Friday night. I just want this 10 days to hurry up which makes me very sad because my husband starts his new job on the 29th and I didn’t want this month to go fast because he won’t be working from home anymore and now I’m wishing the time away. He has 2 weeks off before he starts his new job as well so I’m hoping we can put all this behind us after the 14th and he can enjoy his two weeks off and not have to be looking after anybody else.

Thank you for your reassuring reply 💜💜 xxx

Plenty of CEV people have had it and been fine. Stress is a bigger killer than covid will ever be. Please try to stop stressing over things you cannot change. keep going out and relaxing in the sunshine, if you have any there, if not fresh air without the sun will still be doing you a ton more good than sitting indoors worrying.

Every single person will get covid. So make sure you are doing everything you can to lessen the symptoms when you do, rather than stressfully trying to avoid it at all costs.

I don't know if I have had it or not. to be honest I don't care. I won't stress over it as my life was very stressful before and it lowered my immune system and I was forever getting everything going. If I get it I get it, if I get it and am very ill I will deal with it the same as I do everything. Just a heavy cold can and often does give me many chest problems. ( I should say did, because I don't really get them anymore)
When I was agoraphobic and living on my own I had pleurisy twice (due to my lung conditions) and dealt with it without any medical intervention If you have ever had pleurisy you will know how scary and painful it is.. but I'm still here still fighting. I have learnt how to prevent plurisy and my lungs are in better shape now than they were 9 years ago.

We are all here for you. you are not on your own in this.
Thank you so much for your reply. It really helps that I can come on here and talk to kind people because I know I have my family and a couple of close friends but I don’t feel like I can be completely honest with my friends because they’ve got their own things going on. Also my friend has anxiety and she really worries about Covid and so I don’t want to message her about my concerns really. I also don’t have a mum in my life so I can’t pick up the phone and tell my mum and feel reassured by her. So coming on here just to chat to other women really helps me.

I just want these 10 days over, I don’t feel like I can relax until the 10 days is up. Such a horrible time and we’re only on day 2. Well she tested Friday evening.

Typical we are having a heat wave this week and we will trapped in the house and our house gets very hot. I hate the heat so it’s all very bad combination and somebody up there is laughing at me. I think they saw me getting out and about again, feeling stronger and thought let’s throw a big curveballl her way lol! Typical timing 😀 xx
 
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Thank you.

Yes, that’s very true, the media have damaged peoples mental health so much so that when my daughter tested positive I was terrified. I just had images of me in hospital on a ventilator and I was panicking. Yesterday I couldn’t eat anything I felt sick all day, I was just so scared. I have to pretend I’m fine to everyone at home because I don’t want to worry my daughter so I’m trying to remain upbeat but inside I’m really worried.

I hope we all avoid it. It’s so scary. 2 of us are vaccinated and me and my 17 year old aren’t. His bedroom is downstairs so he’s out of the way which he’s happy about. My bedroom is next to my daughters. I’ve got windows open and trying my best to stay calm and hopeful.

Were the people that you knew that avoided it vaccinated? My worry is because I’m not vaccinated what it could do to me if I catch it. I also don’t know when I can relax a little bit. Do I have to wait 10 days before I can be sure that I haven’t caught it ? I’m just fed up already and it’s only the second day. She tested positive Friday night. I just want this 10 days to hurry up which makes me very sad because my husband starts his new job on the 29th and I didn’t want this month to go fast because he won’t be working from home anymore and now I’m wishing the time away. He has 2 weeks off before he starts his new job as well so I’m hoping we can put all this behind us after the 14th and he can enjoy his two weeks off and not have to be looking after anybody else.

Thank you for your reassuring reply 💜💜 xxx


Thank you so much for your reply. It really helps that I can come on here and talk to kind people because I know I have my family and a couple of close friends but I don’t feel like I can be completely honest with my friends because they’ve got their own things going on. Also my friend has anxiety and she really worries about Covid and so I don’t want to message her about my concerns really. I also don’t have a mum in my life so I can’t pick up the phone and tell my mum and feel reassured by her. So coming on here just to chat to other women really helps me.

I just want these 10 days over, I don’t feel like I can relax until the 10 days is up. Such a horrible time and we’re only on day 2. Well she tested Friday evening.

Typical we are having a heat wave this week and we will trapped in the house and our house gets very hot. I hate the heat so it’s all very bad combination and somebody up there is laughing at me. I think they saw me getting out and about again, feeling stronger and thought let’s throw a big curveballl her way lol! Typical timing 😀 xx
When my partner was positive, we isolated together from the first day he had symptoms (he doesn't test usually so we wouldn't have known .. I only picked up on it as he was coughing randomly and I told him he had it) I didn't test at all and I isolated for 10 days and an extra 2 as I didn't have any plans anyway!

I can completely understand why you are feeling how you are ... You are doing the best you can and that's all you can do ... When WHEN you all get through this you will look back and think actually I was really really strong getting through that and it wasn't as bad as I thought.

I'm keeping you all in my positive thoughts - keep breathing that fresh air!!! And yes it's absolutely boiling here too 😰 but at least you won't be freezing and have to put the heating on and have the leccy bill be about £400 (speaking from experience 🥴) xxx
 
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When my partner was positive, we isolated together from the first day he had symptoms (he doesn't test usually so we wouldn't have known .. I only picked up on it as he was coughing randomly and I told him he had it) I didn't test at all and I isolated for 10 days and an extra 2 as I didn't have any plans anyway!

I can completely understand why you are feeling how you are ... You are doing the best you can and that's all you can do ... When WHEN you all get through this you will look back and think actually I was really really strong getting through that and it wasn't as bad as I thought.

I'm keeping you all in my positive thoughts - keep breathing that fresh air!!! And yes it's absolutely boiling here too 😰 but at least you won't be freezing and have to put the heating on and have the leccy bill be about £400 (speaking from experience 🥴) xxx
Aww thank you for your lovely reply to me 💜

Did you isolate away from your husband during those 10 days? Are you vaccinated? I’m so glad you avoided it. I’m not vaccinated so it scares me. I’m praying these 10 days go fast because it’s only been 2 days and we’re all feeling it. I’m so bored which is odd because I’ve been resting so much the last 2 years with CFS but because I’ve been able to do a bit more recently and my husband now wants me to stay extra safe and isolate in my room, I’m so bored and the days are dragging.

My house holds the heat so it’s super warm in our house when it’s hot outside. I am an autumn girl and wasn’t expecting this blast of heat now lol. Typical timing 😜

I hope I get through this. Thank you xxxx
 
Aww thank you for your lovely reply to me 💜

Did you isolate away from your husband during those 10 days? Are you vaccinated? I’m so glad you avoided it. I’m not vaccinated so it scares me. I’m praying these 10 days go fast because it’s only been 2 days and we’re all feeling it. I’m so bored which is odd because I’ve been resting so much the last 2 years with CFS but because I’ve been able to do a bit more recently and my husband now wants me to stay extra safe and isolate in my room, I’m so bored and the days are dragging.

My house holds the heat so it’s super warm in our house when it’s hot outside. I am an autumn girl and wasn’t expecting this blast of heat now lol. Typical timing 😜

I hope I get through this. Thank you xxxx
I isolated myself and our little one (3 years old) away from him about 2 days after he started having symptoms (he had been coughing on and off but it got slightly worse which is when I knew it wasn't just a general tickle) and we had been around him prior to that so I think we had a good 4 or 5 days of him having it before we realised.

He stayed upstairs and we stayed downstairs EXCEPT when I went up to deliver food or clean the bathroom / open windows wider / collect washing and rubbish. Our home is all open plan - we have no doors at all so I had everything open 😅 (I double masked everytime I went upstairs and wore gloves - I did that till my "12" days were up)

I have spent a lot of time on my own in my life and at some points being very isolated (in an abusive relationship) and I coped extremely well in lockdown but having to actually isolate in the home and have things dropped off KNOWING you can't go anywhere feels completely different so I get that completely!!!! I think our little boy coped amazingly but I tried to make it like a sleepover and to be honest we watched way to much TV 😆

None of us are vaccinated and for us it hasn't changed anything - we still won't be having it ❤ we've gone back to "normal" though I do social distance and wear a mask but I think it's more for others as I know some people have found it really tough

I imagine it is going very slowly ... I'm just glad that right now you are all as safe as you can be .... And you can still order food in 😍 (if you can get just eat etc in your area) xx
 
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I isolated myself and our little one (3 years old) away from him about 2 days after he started having symptoms (he had been coughing on and off but it got slightly worse which is when I knew it wasn't just a general tickle) and we had been around him prior to that so I think we had a good 4 or 5 days of him having it before we realised.

He stayed upstairs and we stayed downstairs EXCEPT when I went up to deliver food or clean the bathroom / open windows wider / collect washing and rubbish. Our home is all open plan - we have no doors at all so I had everything open 😅

I have spent a lot of time on my own in my life and at some points being very isolated (in an abusive relationship) and I coped extremely well in lockdown but having to actually isolate on the home and have things dropped off KNOWING you can't go anywhere feels completely different so I get that completely!!!! I think our little boy coped amazingly but I tried to make it like a sleepover and to be honest we watched way to much TV 😆

None of us are vaccinated and for us it hasn't changed anything - we still won't be having it ❤ we've gone back to "normal" though I do social distance and wear a mask but I think it's more for others as I know some people have found it really tough

I imagine it is going very slowly ... I'm just glad that right now you are all as safe as you can be .... And you can still order food in 😍 (if you can get just eat etc in your area) xx
Thank you that’s very reassuring. We’ve got windows open, I wish we could all stay downstairs away from her room, but she’s keeping it shut and her window is open, she also has a towel across the bottom of her door inside and out. Then we have our bedroom windows open, landing window open during the day but close it at night, bathroom one left open. We also keep our doors closed when in our rooms. It’s bloody exhausting though all the extra cleaning. Hubby takes her food and leaves it outside her door. She won’t let anyone be out of their rooms when she walks to the bathroom, she’s being so careful bless her.

I’m glad you’re all ok, I hope your husband wasn’t too bad with it.

I got them a takeaway last night which they all enjoyed. Our son is a bit of a Jamie Oliver so he’s cooking for everyone tonight, something to do lol Xx
 
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Thank you.

Yes, that’s very true, the media have damaged peoples mental health so much so that when my daughter tested positive I was terrified. I just had images of me in hospital on a ventilator and I was panicking. Yesterday I couldn’t eat anything I felt sick all day, I was just so scared. I have to pretend I’m fine to everyone at home because I don’t want to worry my daughter so I’m trying to remain upbeat but inside I’m really worried.

I hope we all avoid it. It’s so scary. 2 of us are vaccinated and me and my 17 year old aren’t. His bedroom is downstairs so he’s out of the way which he’s happy about. My bedroom is next to my daughters. I’ve got windows open and trying my best to stay calm and hopeful.

Were the people that you knew that avoided it vaccinated? My worry is because I’m not vaccinated what it could do to me if I catch it. I also don’t know when I can relax a little bit. Do I have to wait 10 days before I can be sure that I haven’t caught it ? I’m just fed up already and it’s only the second day. She tested positive Friday night. I just want this 10 days to hurry up which makes me very sad because my husband starts his new job on the 29th and I didn’t want this month to go fast because he won’t be working from home anymore and now I’m wishing the time away. He has 2 weeks off before he starts his new job as well so I’m hoping we can put all this behind us after the 14th and he can enjoy his two weeks off and not have to be looking after anybody else.

Thank you for your reassuring reply 💜💜 xxx
Some people who I know who got it was before vaccines and caught it over Xmas. I know of one family who spend Xmas day and boxing day altogether, one family member tested positive a few days after Xmas and not one other person caught it - not even one who is CEV. The person who did have it just had bad cold symptoms.

The older people I was talking about caught it in hospital before vaccines after being in for other reasons, all were absolutely fine, with one being asymptomatic.

I've recently seen a distant family members Facebook, both adults vaccinated and each parent went down with it. Again, no one was seriously ill.... but then as I said earlier, it's statistically in your favour to be ok regardless of vaccines.
 
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Some people who I know who got it was before vaccines and caught it over Xmas. I know of one family who spend Xmas day and boxing day altogether, one family member tested positive a few days after Xmas and not one other person caught it - not even one who is CEV. The person who did have it just had bad cold symptoms.

The older people I was talking about caught it in hospital before vaccines after being in for other reasons, all were absolutely fine, with one being asymptomatic.

I've recently seen a distant family members Facebook, both adults vaccinated and each parent went down with it. Again, no one was seriously ill.... but then as I said earlier, it's statistically in your favour to be ok regardless of vaccines.
Thank you, Very reassuring.

I keep thinking if I’m still ok by day 5 can I relax a bit? Lol my daughter started with it about 3-4 days after exposure, we think it came from her friend who went to Leeds festival last Saturday and she saw her Tuesday. Weirdly her friend didn’t test positive on an LFT once last week but did on a PCR yesterday. I’m a nervous wreck inside waiting. It’s going to be a long 10 days I know that much 😂 xx
 
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Thank you that’s very reassuring. We’ve got windows open, I wish we could all stay downstairs away from her room, but she’s keeping it shut and her window is open, she also has a towel across the bottom of her door inside and out. Then we have our bedroom windows open, landing window open during the day but close it at night, bathroom one left open. We also keep our doors closed when in our rooms. It’s bloody exhausting though all the extra cleaning. Hubby takes her food and leaves it outside her door. She won’t let anyone be out of their rooms when she walks to the bathroom, she’s being so careful bless her.

I’m glad you’re all ok, I hope your husband wasn’t too bad with it.

I got them a takeaway last night which they all enjoyed. Our son is a bit of a Jamie Oliver so he’s cooking for everyone tonight, something to do lol Xx
That sounds like you are all doing brilliant at keeping each other safe 🙏🏻

I haven't seen him that poorly before BUT it's worth noting that his diet and lifestyle have not been the best and lockdown hasn't been good for him. He is not like me in that respect and he has definitely used food as a coping mechanism (I think what we consume plays a major part in how we fall ill though I know it's not the be all and end all) he also drinks alcohol and sometimes smokes when out (I do neither) so it was the cough that was the worst for him. He also never stops working ... Im talking 14 hour days regularly ... And when he has stopped before for whatever reason then it's like his body takes it as a sign to be poorly 😅 basically he's just overworked, over stressed and very run down and doesn't treat his body very nice so I think these all played against him in defending it.

I know you have mentioned you have CFS and I imagine you do all you can to keep well in anycase so you are doing the best you can 🙏🏻 and your family seem to really care about each other which is wonderful ❤

That sounds amazing about home cooked food aswell! Making me hungry 😆❤x
 
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Hi @ChineseAlan
I've just caught up here and wanted to send you well wishes and the biggest virtual hug possible.

I know this has been your biggest fear all along and I'm so sorry it is being realised. It may only be day 2 but I believe there was a time when you didn't know how you'd get through any of this. You have gotten through the days of uncertainty before the LFT, the days with the positive LFT and now these 2 days. I know it might not feel like you're coping at all, but I think you're doing amazingly! Doing all you can to keep composed for your family, but sharing how you feel here, so you're not dealing with it alone. Please do keep posting, I know we are all strangers here but the genuine support and compassion here reminds me that there is still hope ❤

I do think the universe challenges us in ways that seem so bloody cruel and unfair at the time, but that we one day look back on and see how much we have learned/grown from the experience. It's almost impossible to see that when you're in the thick of it, but maybe reflect on some of the other challenges life has thrown your way and how far you have come? You might be surprised to see just how strong you are. And if you can't see it just now, that's okay, because I'm almost certain your family can see it. We can see it here too!

I did notice a few posts where you and your daughter blaming yourselves for this situation. You have both been put in a really difficult position over the last 18 months, trying to balance safety, happiness and parenting! Please don't beat yourselves up too much. I think it's more bad luck than anything else, there are people that aren't careful at all that have been fine and others who have a tiny lapse and are caught out. It's not fair at all I know, but it's happened and you're dealing with it the best you can as a family.

My 18yo sister insisted on being in Brighton for when the nightclubs opened at midnight a few weeks back - she's worked at Asda throughout the pandemic and hasn't had the best attitude to restrictions... Anyway, her and her friends had their first vaccinations (literally queued up for hours at a football stadium the day 18+ were allowed!) and 4 of the 5 tested caught Covid. They all had heavy flu symptoms and felt very sorry for themselves, but none of the families caught it. The girls isolated apart from their families, stayed in bedrooms at all times other than using the bathroom, wore masks for the bathroom etc. My StepDad is militant when it comes to cleaning anyway, but he stepped it up and ensured ventilation and it seemed to work for them. The rest of the family tested using LFTs daily so any positives would be caught as quickly as possible, and it sounds like your daughter found out early too. I think that makes a huge difference.

Sorry for the huge rambling post, I hope there is something useful in here!! Also - to combat some boredom, are you able to do things like watch a movie together (virtually!) My partner lives a couple of hours away and we don't see each other often, so we try and have evenings where we Skype or similar and watch a film on laptops, through sharing a screen. I think Disney+ has an option for viewing when apart too. Or if you are readers, do a kindle unlimited trial and read a book together you can talk about? Just ideas but might help your daughter feel closer to you as well as keep you entertained ☺

Final point - If you'd want to speak away from here at all, I have an anon Instagram account that was supposed to be a private blog that hasn't happened yet 🙈 I'd be very happy to share that with you here (and Mods can delete the post if it's not allowed - I don't have a report function to delete it myself!)

Sending lots of love xx
 
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Hi @ChineseAlan
I've just caught up here and wanted to send you well wishes and the biggest virtual hug possible.

I know this has been your biggest fear all along and I'm so sorry it is being realised. It may only be day 2 but I believe there was a time when you didn't know how you'd get through any of this. You have gotten through the days of uncertainty before the LFT, the days with the positive LFT and now these 2 days. I know it might not feel like you're coping at all, but I think you're doing amazingly! Doing all you can to keep composed for your family, but sharing how you feel here, so you're not dealing with it alone. Please do keep posting, I know we are all strangers here but the genuine support and compassion here reminds me that there is still hope ❤

I do think the universe challenges us in ways that seem so bloody cruel and unfair at the time, but that we one day look back on and see how much we have learned/grown from the experience. It's almost impossible to see that when you're in the thick of it, but maybe reflect on some of the other challenges life has thrown your way and how far you have come? You might be surprised to see just how strong you are. And if you can't see it just now, that's okay, because I'm almost certain your family can see it. We can see it here too!

I did notice a few posts where you and your daughter blaming yourselves for this situation. You have both been put in a really difficult position over the last 18 months, trying to balance safety, happiness and parenting! Please don't beat yourselves up too much. I think it's more bad luck than anything else, there are people that aren't careful at all that have been fine and others who have a tiny lapse and are caught out. It's not fair at all I know, but it's happened and you're dealing with it the best you can as a family.

My 18yo sister insisted on being in Brighton for when the nightclubs opened at midnight a few weeks back - she's worked at Asda throughout the pandemic and hasn't had the best attitude to restrictions... Anyway, her and her friends had their first vaccinations (literally queued up for hours at a football stadium the day 18+ were allowed!) and 4 of the 5 tested caught Covid. They all had heavy flu symptoms and felt very sorry for themselves, but none of the families caught it. The girls isolated apart from their families, stayed in bedrooms at all times other than using the bathroom, wore masks for the bathroom etc. My StepDad is militant when it comes to cleaning anyway, but he stepped it up and ensured ventilation and it seemed to work for them. The rest of the family tested using LFTs daily so any positives would be caught as quickly as possible, and it sounds like your daughter found out early too. I think that makes a huge difference.

Sorry for the huge rambling post, I hope there is something useful in here!! Also - to combat some boredom, are you able to do things like watch a movie together (virtually!) My partner lives a couple of hours away and we don't see each other often, so we try and have evenings where we Skype or similar and watch a film on laptops, through sharing a screen. I think Disney+ has an option for viewing when apart too. Or if you are readers, do a kindle unlimited trial and read a book together you can talk about? Just ideas but might help your daughter feel closer to you as well as keep you entertained ☺

Final point - If you'd want to speak away from here at all, I have an anon Instagram account that was supposed to be a private blog that hasn't happened yet 🙈 I'd be very happy to share that with you here (and Mods can delete the post if it's not allowed - I don't have a report function to delete it myself!)

Sending lots of love xx
Eliza, what a lovely kind message to see this morning. Thank you for taking your time to write to me, I appreciate it so much.

Thank you for your reassurance. I don’t know what day we would class today as but my daughter started with a cold on Friday evening and she tested positive on Friday evening, she then had a positive PCR on Saturday so I don’t know whether today is day 4 or 5. Do we count Friday? Ha ha. I’m trying my best to stay strong and there are times I get upset and I have a little cry on my own in my room because I don’t want anyone else to see that. My husband is run off his feet, he works full time at home at the moment and he’s the one doing all the cleaning after she uses the bathroom, all the cooking etc because he wants me to stay out the way so I don’t catch anything. I feel so sorry for him but I appreciate everything he’s doing. We are all exhausted with it already and just want to over.

My daughter is coping really well, she started with a bunged up nose, then went onto develop a fever, aching body, headache, painful eyes, then yesterday she had a sore throat and she developed a nasty cough. Last night she lost her sense of smell but taste is fine which she’s glad of as she’s a foodie 😂 She is in good spirits though and she is so mature and doesn’t want any of us to get this. Her 3 friends are ok, one lost her smell but no other symptoms, another asymptomatic and her closest friend has a cold. My daughter seems to have it the worst which is odd as she’s a healthy girl, eats so healthy and takes her vitamins. She has shingles this spring, the drs said she had it severe for a child she was so unwell, my daughter said covid is nothing compared to shingles haha.

She is so funny every time she goes to the bathroom she puts on the family group chat for everyone to stay in the rooms and she goes across the landing with her mask on gloves and armed with her Dettol spray 😂😂 She then tells none of us to use the bathroom until her dad is wiped it down. She is so funny.

It helps that I can come here and be honest to people because I don’t have anyone in my life I can be completely honest with, like I said I don’t have a mum or sisters in my life, I opened up a bit to my friend yesterday after she asked how my daughter was and in her words ‘oh bless her, it is really bad it’s like the worst flu ever’. Which scared me to death because I didn’t really need to hear that 😂 So having this place helps me.

My daughter is FaceTiming me all the time, we’re playing games against eachother on our iPads which is fun. The film idea is fab, thank you. I miss her so much, I want to hug her and take care of her but I can’t. It’s horrible. I stupidly told my Mum via text after she did her occasional ‘hope you’re ok’ text., she isn’t in my life physically as I walked away from my family as I was assaulted by a family member 9 years ago and my Mother didn’t support me, she was extremely abusive towards me infront of my children, and during my childhood. I had therapy for ptsd so I’m all good but this week has opened some old wounds with her. She just did her usual ‘no point worrying, just get on with it’ response when I told her about my daughter. Her usual hard unloving attitude and she hasn’t even rung or messaged my daughter to wish her well. Or asked if we need anything. This has made old wounds open because I’m missing my daughter like crazy and I’m-so worried about her, Yet when I developed a chronic illness my Mum never ever rung or came to see me. She would go 12 weeks without her ‘hope you’re ok’ copy and paste text. Hence why in the end I walked away. It’s just made me think how can a Mum not worry when their child is ill, or show they care. Sorry, didn’t mean to offload that but it’s opened some old wounds this week.

Thank you for your kind offer, I don’t think we can share our Instagram names here as I tried with another member at one point. Admin I understand why, I just didn’t want Eliza to think I ignored her kind offer to chat to me off here.

Thank you for being so kind,I really appreciate your message x
 
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