It's a tricky one. I do think it's wrong to tar someone who is attracted to a 16 year old with the same brush as someone like Ian Watkins. However, even if a teenager dresses and acts older, and 'consensually' has sex with an adult it's still a form of abuse. An abuse of power at the very least.
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Oooo they sound an awful lot like the ped0phile
Information exchange.
Laws need to be changed and fast. The stuff I’ve seen in the last few weeks has made me realise this is only getting worse. They don’t care because they get a slap on the wrist.
It’s highly unlikely that that the second person police have arrested for Olivia’s murder is the culprit. The first had been recalled to prison (Joseph Nee the intended target) as he was on licence. So although he was bailed he is in jail. The second is probably someone associated with the gang/real culprit. I honestly believe the real culprit is likely out of the country now and probably was less than a few hours after she was killed.
on the topic of vigilantism, I think it’s abhorrent. Mostly because it’s just another form of (usually) excessive violent, committed under the guise of being justified. And also it usually makes criminals out of every day usually good people. This iswhy I don’t think it’s right to print names and addresses of those convicted of sex offences (as the media usually will print a name and a road for example) it just encourages normal dad’s,brothers etc (as it usually males) to go out and commit crimes they never usually would under the guise of feeling that it’s ok. They will still be arrested, charged and sentenced for that offence, whether the victim was an abuser or child killer etc etc or not.
on the topic of vigilantism, I think it’s abhorrent. Mostly because it’s just another form of (usually) excessive violent, committed under the guise of being justified. And also it usually makes criminals out of every day usually good people. This iswhy I don’t think it’s right to print names and addresses of those convicted of sex offences (as the media usually will print a name and a road for example) it just encourages normal dad’s,brothers etc (as it usually males) to go out and commit crimes they never usually would under the guise of feeling that it’s ok. They will still be arrested, charged and sentenced for that offence, whether the victim was an abuser or child killer etc etc or not.
Fruit picker, 22, accused of stabbing nine-year-old Lilia Valutyte to death in front of her sister is 'rushed to hospital after being slashed and battered by shank-wielding cellmate in brutal jail attack'
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Lithuanian national Deividas Skebas, 22, is understood to have been held at Category A Wakefield Prison, but was the victim of a vicious attack.
A bit of justice, apologies if I haven't linked it properly
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Lithuanian national Deividas Skebas, 22, is understood to have been held at Category A Wakefield Prison, but was the victim of a vicious attack.
A bit of justice, apologies if I haven't linked it properly
Has anyone listened to the podcast Manhunt: Finding Kevin Parle? Listening to it now and it’s very good. I’m on Peter’s episode, crazy what happened to him but he’s so upfront about his own foibles.
I've not listened to it; but Peter (the chap whose episode you're on) has written a book about Kevin Parle.
Yes,it’s happened to a few inmates hasnt it?Ian Huntly,the vile guy that murdered Sarah Payne,probably few others as well.
I have listened to the Keven parle podcast, it’s interesting. He has taken a break from it atm but working on it behind the scenes. He’s got balls I will give him that.
It’s a really easy listen, only stumbled upon it due to recent events. He is definitely more fearless than a lot involved in that world, very high-stakes.
Another recommendation for the KP podcast, Peter is great. I really hope he finds KP!
Yes, wouldn't be surprised if this is the case. Not so much a 'hardman' but an utter coward. Shame, also, on anyone who has assisted or enabled them.
We've got gangs going at each other in my part of Leeds atm. Lads riding round on souped up lawnmovers, wearing balaclavas and carrying knives/ machetes, thinking they're some kind of badass tough guys. Much of it, of course, is about drugs and there's been a few knifings over the last couple of weeks. One incident yesterday had much of an estate cordoned off and the police copter buzzing overhead for hours. Air ambulance joined in at one point, too. Mayhem.
Yes, the worst attack I’ve ever read about is the one inflicted on Richard Huckle, the man dubbed “UK’s worst peadophile”
If they do catch Olivia’s killer and he gets sent down, I think he will suffer a similar fate as child killers/abusers are the lowest of the low in prison hierarchy…
They're not the most intelligent of folks either. I'm pretty sure there was a case where one group went after a paediatrician because they didn't know the difference between paediatrician and paedophile
The Richard Huckle one was horrific. Hard to feel sorry for him, mind.
Hope to God I am wrong but I have a terrible feeling that no one will ever be brought to justice for the Olivia's murder.
Organised criminals in Liverpool run rings round the police and most people will be too terrified for fear of reprisals. I don't buy at all that the top guys will be horrified and grass them up, as suggested by the police, they live by a code of silence.
Organised criminals in Liverpool run rings round the police and most people will be too terrified for fear of reprisals. I don't buy at all that the top guys will be horrified and grass them up, as suggested by the police, they live by a code of silence.
I hate to be the one to say it but criminals like that do not give a duck who they hurt or kill. Poor Olivia will just be collateral damage
Agree with all said. However the gun will be able to be traced by the bullet. I am not explaining this properly as I’m an illiterate bastard but all guns in the UK have ‘recorded’ history. I watched a good documentary about it. I will find it and link it as it can explain it better than me.
You’re right. To ordinary decent folk it’s a horrific, despicable crime. To them, it’s just another crime. That’s the scariest part of the whole thing.I hate to be the one to say it but criminals like that do not give a duck who they hurt or kill. Poor Olivia will just be collateral damage
The type of gun yes and other crimes associated with it but that’s about as much as they will establish I think. I’ve been told that most Glock pistols in circulation (a very common gun used by criminals, military and police) all leave similar markings on the ammunition, barely distinguishable from one gun to the next. Infuriating as it is.Agree with all said. However the gun will be able to be traced by the bullet. I am not explaining this properly as I’m an illiterate bastard but all guns in the UK have ‘recorded’ history. I watched a good documentary about it. I will find it and link it as it can explain it better than me.
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