This is awfully sad - I didn't read the part about the officer going to do a welfare check, but I wonder if it was a male officer, that may well have amplified their fears? Sounds like they were basically scared of their own shadows...now that could be mental illness of some form, but I would be concerned it's a result of past experiences/ things they were trying to escape/ fearing being taken back 'home' etc. Poor women.i was reading about this yesterday, and found myself pondering and thinking, and I thought to myself…if I was a police officer who went there to do a welfare check on the day they were cowering and quiet in a corner, one in front of and speaking for the other, quite obviously terrified but said ‘we’re okay’ , there is no way I wouldn’t insist that I knew full well they werent okay and we were going to help. But they’re adults, and if they say they’re okay even if they’re patently not, there’s nothing you can do
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JAILED: Woman injected young child with needles contaminated with human faeces
A Barrow woman who injected a child in her care with human faeces has been jailed for nearly six years.
Same town that Laura Castle lives in..
This is the link to the full safeguarding review for Leiland-James
I generally agree with you but in my area there are a lot of kids who go into care via the voluntary (s20?) route. So it’s couched as voluntary but with a health visitor/SW/other professional telling them if they don’t SS will go to court anyway & it’s best for the kids this way. Parents would then agree. Didn’t know this wasn’t supposed to happen as often as it does until I saw a Guardian article about it. On reflection this is horrendous practice.
If-and I understand it’s a big if-DV was the only issue I can see again how poor practice could occur. DV seems to be a MASSIVE weak spot in my area. Often not believing women are victims (astonishingly in the current day) even when there are reports from children, to police etc.
And still SS work on a 1 way street where info sharing is concerned. And it seems the police, probation, prison service can provide expert risk info but SS don’t give it much weight.
Massive shrug & sigh for me on it all. Am off to read the SCR.
Boston, Lincs. FFS who stabs a nine year old girl?
I think it varies hugely by authority, have seen children return home after s20s - in the best cases, they can give breathing space for parents to make positive changes without the pressure of 24/7 parenting.
The reporting on this is making me very uncomfortable. I admire the passion of the DV workers, and respect their expertise, and certainly don’t want victims of DV to be further victimised. but I also don’t want children harmed and I think the harm DV does to children is being somewhat obscured here.
We don’t know the details of Laura’s case and it’s obvious she wanted to do everything she could to be a mum to her baby and what’s happened is unthinkably tragic for her.
I also hope the media attention won’t make her life more difficult.
Social work practice should absolutely be scrutinised, but whether Laura should have had her children removed or not has absolutely nothing to do with the cause of Leiland-James’s murder.
Laura is 100% correct to say that he would not have been killed by Castle if he’d gone home with his mum, but having read the SCR, Castle would have murdered a different baby instead, and I’m not sure the system is really robust enough wrt keeping children safe in placements.
Underinvestment in public health, education and social services is the driver of a huge amount of suffering, combined with a society that doesn’t value women and sees children as possessions. My blood ran cold when I read that Castle wanted to adopt to “grow her family” because she didn’t want to do IVF again, and that she and her husband didn’t understand the needs of a child placed for adoption - they should never have been approved, even without the lies and obfuscation.
Adoption is NOT a cure for infertility, it exists as a last resort for children who can’t stay in their family of origin, and they deserve so much better than the Castles of this world.
The reporting on this is making me very uncomfortable. I admire the passion of the DV workers, and respect their expertise, and certainly don’t want victims of DV to be further victimised. but I also don’t want children harmed and I think the harm DV does to children is being somewhat obscured here.
We don’t know the details of Laura’s case and it’s obvious she wanted to do everything she could to be a mum to her baby and what’s happened is unthinkably tragic for her.
I also hope the media attention won’t make her life more difficult.
Social work practice should absolutely be scrutinised, but whether Laura should have had her children removed or not has absolutely nothing to do with the cause of Leiland-James’s murder.
Laura is 100% correct to say that he would not have been killed by Castle if he’d gone home with his mum, but having read the SCR, Castle would have murdered a different baby instead, and I’m not sure the system is really robust enough wrt keeping children safe in placements.
Underinvestment in public health, education and social services is the driver of a huge amount of suffering, combined with a society that doesn’t value women and sees children as possessions. My blood ran cold when I read that Castle wanted to adopt to “grow her family” because she didn’t want to do IVF again, and that she and her husband didn’t understand the needs of a child placed for adoption - they should never have been approved, even without the lies and obfuscation.
Adoption is NOT a cure for infertility, it exists as a last resort for children who can’t stay in their family of origin, and they deserve so much better than the Castles of this world.
I’ve found this whole process so interesting. It shows the complexity of sentencing in a really straight forward light in the sense that the judge directly explains the reasoning and there’s no media bias or interfering. Does anyone know if more cases are going to be televised or was it just this one because of its complexity?It was televised for the first time ever today! I don’t know if it’s been published yet but you can watch it here (20 min video further down).
I’m not excusing what he’s done but I felt very sad hearing the life he had as a child and the various factors that resulted in harming others. He’s obviously a danger to the public so it’s right he’s in prison.
Cameras allowed in courts for the first time to see judge sentence Ben Oliver for killing grandfather
Making legal history, Judge Sarah Munro QC's sentencing of Ben Oliver on Thursday was broadcast from the Old Bailey in central London, as she told him he presented "a significant risk to the public".news.sky.com
Amen to that.
I was just coming here to post the same story. How appalling. Not something you hear of often (thankfully) but god how awful. Makes you feel like wrapping them in cotton wool & never letting them out
I’m so shocked this morning reading this, have they arrested anybody?I was just coming here to post the same story. How appalling. Not something you hear of often (thankfully) but god how awful. Makes you feel like wrapping them in cotton wool & never letting them out
I just can’t get my head around it x
I have a 9 year old. This is unfathomable. Dear God.
Not that I know of, but I only did a quick scroll through the news today, might be an update somewhere. I can't fathom who would decide to brutally murder a child in broad daylight. I wonder if it was someone known to her, or a complete stranger. Either way, horrific.
Wow it’s so sad, poor little thing. I say it all the time but I feel this Country is broken I really do. RIP little one x
Just saw the same story on the Mirror online, it says 'Nearby residents believe it was a random attack' but who knows.
The police just had a conference and said that they arrested two people in connection with the incident. They believe it was an isolated incident
Horrible, there have been stabbings and murders before but nothing this bad. There were helicopters and armed police all over the place
Boston: Two arrested after death of girl, 9, in suspected stabbing
Flowers are laid and candles lit as a murder investigation is under way in Boston, Lincolnshire.
www.bbc.co.uk
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That is so tragic. The poor child.
Arthur Labinjo-Hughes’ ‘father’ has had his sentence increased after he appealed against his original sentence for it being excessive. It is on the below link even though it references Couzens.
Sorry, won’t let me link.
Sarah Everard killer: Wayne Couzens loses bid to reduce whole-life term
The sentence of Sarah Everard’s murderer was one of five being reviewed at the Court of Appeal.
www.bbc.co.uk
The murderer of Helen Bailey had his sentence reviewed too
Ian Stewart should never be released from prison. He is a vile, inhumane monster that deserves no liberty ever again.
The stabbing is making me think of the little girl killed in a park by a woman who was mentally unwell. Can't remember the details as I think I might be conflating two cases - one where a girl was stabbed by her sister who was a teenager too.
Two separate cases.
Emily Jones in Bolton and Katie Rough in York (although not sure it was ever revealed it was her sister to protect her anonymity even though we all know it was)
The plan is for more to be televised but only from certain courts and the judge has to give their approval first. That's my understanding. I'm assuming it will mainly be for high profile/complex/high sentence cases, just like the cases the sentencing remarks are currently published for.
It's to help the public understand how sentences are arrived at. Unsurprisingly, it didn't really seem to cut much ice with the Daily Mail mentalist commenters though
It was televised for the first time ever today! I don’t know if it’s been published yet but you can watch it here (20 min video further down).
I’m not excusing what he’s done but I felt very sad hearing the life he had as a child and the various factors that resulted in harming others. He’s obviously a danger to the public so it’s right he’s in prison.
Cameras allowed in courts for the first time to see judge sentence Ben Oliver for killing grandfather
Making legal history, Judge Sarah Munro QC's sentencing of Ben Oliver on Thursday was broadcast from the Old Bailey in central London, as she told him he presented "a significant risk to the public".
I get that, I really do, but I think he is 100% a product of his environment. Didn't the judge say he was introduced to child pornography when he was five years old? And sexually assaulted himself as a child? That couple with his autism, deafness and general chaos of his upbringing, he never stood a chance. So yes, I do have sympathy for him. Seems like everyone around him wanted the grandfather dead and knew he was suggestible enough to do their bidding for him.
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