I think it is fairly simple to blame Only Fans and the internet. Only Fans paints itself as an 'empowering, entrepreneurial' business model, but really it's gash for cash - women (mainly) flashing their tits, minge and arse, allowing all and sundry to access fairly high level stuff at the click of a finger. Because all the internet 'huns' are on there, it's all seen as aspirational, but it's not, it's sex work, simple as. I do agree there are more complex factors at work but the rise of 'easy' sex work is certainly a factor in all this.
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I think it is fairly simple to blame Only Fans and the internet. Only Fans paints itself as an 'empowering, entrepreneurial' business model, but really it's gash for cash - women (mainly) flashing their tits, minge and arse, allowing all and sundry to access fairly high level stuff at the click of a finger. Because all the internet 'huns' are on there, it's all seen as aspirational, but it's not, it's sex work, simple as. I do agree there are more complex factors at work but the rise of 'easy' sex work is certainly a factor in all this.
Jail wouldn’t be the right place though, he’d be at massive risk of all the things @LouBug19 has said. And he’s not free - it’s a hospital order and in all likelihood he’ll never leave hospital.
Barnaby’s mum’s racist comments aside, he’s in the right place for both himself and others in the prison estate and I stand by that if the roles were reversed she’d have wanted that for her son.
I completely agree. And it's not as if a secure mental hospital is like a theme park - he will be medicated and monitored, probably less freedom in general than he would have in prison. And in all cases, relatives should NEVER have a bearing on sentencing, they are obviously too invested.
I agree. In my work I have had to visit people in prisons and in secure psychiatric hospitals. Neither of them are pleasant places to visit let alone live.
Women were being told that stripping and being hypersexual was a thing before the internet, it was happening already in my late teens when home internet useage was very, very low still. I think it started with those vile Lads magazines in the 1990s, Nuts and Zoo and all that and also with the hypersexualition of the music industry in the early 00s when Britney, Christina, etc came along. Probably before then actually with Madonna?
And in film too, more and more sex and nudity and now we have a twelve minute sex scene in a movie about the creation of the atomic bomb.
It all baffles me honestly. I am probably a prude but it's just not a thing I really understand. I would think today now that everyone (so it feels) is doing it, saying no and keeping clothes on is more empowering?
sorry but the way they're riding is just like out of a porno, like it's choreographed and follows a script. Porn literally rots people's brains and this is a prime example. You watch so much of something it becomes second nature and even being filmed didn't bother her one bit. Even thinking of doing anything like that would be horrific for a regular woman who's not porn obsessed and hyper-sexualized
1. My teenage daughter is currently an inpatient in an adolescent mental health unit. It is a hospital but I tell you now, it is like a prison. So wouldn’t go so far as to say people sent to places like Ashworth are getting an easy ride. It’s brutal and she’s not even there for a crime. (my opinion of course)
2. Isn’t there as issue of consent with regards to the prisoner sex video? I thought there was an element of the ‘position of power’ very much like a teacher (teaching consensual ages e.g uni) Therefore the prisoner technically can’t give consent to sex?! I don’t think I’ve explained that well. Also agree with people saying how the hell did she get a job in the first place. I know someone who recently changed careers to become a prison officer and the background checks took months and they scrutinise every detail of your life! Surely a quick google of that persons name would have been done?
She’s going to come out of prison/court a millionaire from OF with all this publicity. Gross.
Madness.
2. Isn’t there as issue of consent with regards to the prisoner sex video? I thought there was an element of the ‘position of power’ very much like a teacher (teaching consensual ages e.g uni) Therefore the prisoner technically can’t give consent to sex?! I don’t think I’ve explained that well. Also agree with people saying how the hell did she get a job in the first place. I know someone who recently changed careers to become a prison officer and the background checks took months and they scrutinise every detail of your life! Surely a quick google of that persons name would have been done?
She’s going to come out of prison/court a millionaire from OF with all this publicity. Gross.
Madness.
I have seen people saying that he couldn't consent as its a breach of power/trust. I would imagine that he will get some privileges removed but the phone and drugs will be gone.
I'm sorry to hear about your daughter, mental health is so tough and I hope she feels better
You are Mary Whitehouse and I claim my five pounds
Totally agree with this. It’s such a sad story to peddle to young women - that if you’re looking for a low effort way to earn big bucks, all you need to do is degrade yourself (flashing tits, minge and arse) or worse, take part in really risky/dangerous sexual behaviours. Who needs education and aspirations?!
I don’t watch porn but even I could tell this was completely pornified sex, crude and animalistic.
I worry for my children, I really do.
I can't imagine how dirty some of these prisons/cells are. These women are so desperate for money and attention, they'll do something so absurd. She could have just set up an OF account and produced photos/videos another way.
I know of women making money from simply producing content of their feet for e.g. i can understand if someone is desperate for money and decides to go into escorting or seeking a guy to provide money to her, but to do what this woman did is just purely narcissistic.
This proves that, by her and her partner appearing on a swingers show on channel 4. She also has a kid. Imagine your kid seeing that footage when they get to a certain age. I actually feel sorry for her, and how she feels she needs to do what she did. It's a mental illness.
I looked at doing OnlyfeetFans 
but it's not as easy as it's made out to be.
Certainly there's a step backwards on the feminist front. My younger friend the other day told me how she and her boyfriend had been 'dogged' by some skanky tit and how she was weirded out but wasn't going to "shame him for his sexual proclivities". I said it was about time we did a bit more shaming. We're now being taught to accept, not to "judge" and not to "shame" regardless of what we think. After centuries of trying to get male behaviour recognised as damaging, and ourselves as worthy of consideration, we're now being encouraged to shrug it all off at the risk of being bigoted or prudish (or indeed Mary Whitehouse, as exemplified above) without any conscious thought.
but it's not as easy as it's made out to be.Certainly there's a step backwards on the feminist front. My younger friend the other day told me how she and her boyfriend had been 'dogged' by some skanky tit and how she was weirded out but wasn't going to "shame him for his sexual proclivities". I said it was about time we did a bit more shaming. We're now being taught to accept, not to "judge" and not to "shame" regardless of what we think. After centuries of trying to get male behaviour recognised as damaging, and ourselves as worthy of consideration, we're now being encouraged to shrug it all off at the risk of being bigoted or prudish (or indeed Mary Whitehouse, as exemplified above) without any conscious thought.
Yeah I mean it was just a knee-jerk reaction but I suppose I agree.
I think I just mean I don’t think they should be given softer treatment just because the voices told them to do it.
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You considered dipping your toe in, so to speak…I looked at doing OnlyfeetFans
Certainly there's a step backwards on the feminist front. My younger friend the other day told me how she and her boyfriend had been 'dogged' by some skanky tit and how she was weirded out but wasn't going to "shame him for his sexual proclivities". I said it was about time we did a bit more shaming. We're now being taught to accept, not to "judge" and not to "shame" regardless of what we think. After centuries of trying to get male behaviour recognised as damaging, and ourselves as worthy of consideration, we're now being encouraged to shrug it all off at the risk of being bigoted or prudish (or indeed Mary Whitehouse, as exemplified above) without any conscious thought.
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I think with OnlyFans, is that it's only the top % making great money. The rest below that are making decent money to barely anything. I believe there were statistics released a year or so ago showing that the majority of people on OnlyFans are making barely anything to around £150 per month.
There is a reason that these people are doing absurd stuff to get attention, because they hope it will bump them up to a good enough level to profit from their short lived fame. Because short lived fame will likely be what it is for the majority.
There is a reason that these people are doing absurd stuff to get attention, because they hope it will bump them up to a good enough level to profit from their short lived fame. Because short lived fame will likely be what it is for the majority.
Wishing your daughter well, it sounds like a very difficult time for you both. Hope things will get better.
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Well, I do think she was right. Not in everything, she was a biogted witch towards the LGBTQ community and she went too far with the censorship demands but I do very much belief in her core message now that I'm older and we have OnlyFans and the like.
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One of the mums at my son’s school was on OnlyFans - she was having sex on film so the more extreme end. It all got out and kids were coming up to her son and daughter at school to show them the videos and take the piss. She doesn’t care.
She wasn’t the ‘type’ you’d expect either - nice middle class mum with a high-earning husband. Although they have split now…he didn’t know about her double life.
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Looool just googled the prison officer video because of the comments about it being porn-inspired. It’s the least sexy video going - I hope the rest of her content is better than that if she’s trying to make a career out of it. Social media is making incredibly average people famous, purely because they have no morals and are willing to push boundaries for cash.
She wasn’t the ‘type’ you’d expect either - nice middle class mum with a high-earning husband. Although they have split now…he didn’t know about her double life.
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Looool just googled the prison officer video because of the comments about it being porn-inspired. It’s the least sexy video going - I hope the rest of her content is better than that if she’s trying to make a career out of it. Social media is making incredibly average people famous, purely because they have no morals and are willing to push boundaries for cash.
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Jury is back in the Karen read trial.
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Karen Read jury still hung.
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Karen Read jury have been told to reach a decision by the judge and sent out again.
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Apparently one the jurors - who according to some is the hold out - was crying
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Karen Read jury still hung.
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Karen Read jury have been told to reach a decision by the judge and sent out again.
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Apparently one the jurors - who according to some is the hold out - was crying
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Good grief, how did we ever manage in the past? I struggle with this thing where people are just emotionally incontient all over the place now. Not saying we should be robots, and we've seen what going too far the other way and not being socially able to express emotion can do to people but it's a joke now.
As far as Karen Read goes, I totally believe she's innocent and will be disgusted if it's a guilty verdict. I'm expecting one though
It's starts with a dipped toe....
and before you know it you are doing the ironing with a cucumber up your backside.