Oh no I didn’t read it as sarcasm at all.
---
Jesus. What is the world coming to..
- Status
New to Tattle Life? Click "Order Thread by Most Liked Posts" button below to get an idea of what the site is about:
---
Jesus. What is the world coming to..
That is chilling.
But do you wonder if he is taking the fall for someone else?
But do you wonder if he is taking the fall for someone else?
Hmm. I don't buy it was the 8 year old who killed them. Possible I guess but sounds dodgy.
A genuine question because I've seen a lot about atonement in the last few pages. What do people think is an appropriate level of atonement for two lives? Because that's the thing with murder. It's absolutely final for the victim. Basically what price do you set on human life? The atonement you need to carry out is set by the court. You can appeal that if you think it's unfair, but it IS the atonement that you are set.
Let's also not create a martyr out of Ronald Sanford. Read the caselaw decision, which is based on the facts, for balance to an agenda driven change.org petition. These elderly ladies were his neighbours, they were known to Sanford, selected because of their vulnerability, and each were stabbed multiple times. Can you think of a reason other than to kill, which would require multiple stabbings? Self defence? Both ladies were in their 80s and would have been no threat to him even at 13.
Just because a guy is articulate doesn't make him innocent. Wasn't Ted Bundy notoriously personable?
Let's also not create a martyr out of Ronald Sanford. Read the caselaw decision, which is based on the facts, for balance to an agenda driven change.org petition. These elderly ladies were his neighbours, they were known to Sanford, selected because of their vulnerability, and each were stabbed multiple times. Can you think of a reason other than to kill, which would require multiple stabbings? Self defence? Both ladies were in their 80s and would have been no threat to him even at 13.
Just because a guy is articulate doesn't make him innocent. Wasn't Ted Bundy notoriously personable?
Completely agree. When all’s said and done, he did kill 2 vulnerable elderly ladies. I don’t think he’s innocent (I can’t remember the interview I watched word for word but I’m fairly sure he admitted what he’d done) but I do think he’s atoned and I do think he’s shown remorse. But then the ladies still died a horrible death at his hands. Like I say, I’m torn.
A life sentence, that is actually whole life. I can’t get onboard with the death penalty, but if you murder someone then you should spend your entire life in prison.
It’s hard. A whole life sentence for a young teenager just seems awful.
I know however if it was my loved one who’d been murdered I’d absolutely agree with it.
This is my view (I think!) Life should mean life despite the very valid discussion around whether you should be punished as an adult for something (albeit something terrible) you did as a child.
Totally agree, every country should have that. We should have that! If you are willing to murder someone then you should die in prison. It's hard when it comes to children though, they aren't developed and easily lead by others. In james bulgers case, one of them has repeatedly offended and he should never be released, he had his chance. The other one though hasn't committed a crime since I don't think? Please correct me if I'm wrong. When it comes to children who kill others I don't know if life behind bars is the answer, some people can be rehabilitated especially younger people. In others cases though there's just no hope in that person being rehabilitated so they belong in prison.
Oh yes sorry I meant adults. Children is so hard.
One of JB’s killers lives a normal life now apparently. Has a partner who knows who he was, too.
And he was the one the prosecutors said was the ringleader which always seems so odd now considering how the two ended up as adults
Muriel McKay's family meet killer to ask for details on where her body is buried
Dianne McKay met Nizamodeen Hosein in his native Trinidad, where he showed her the spot on a Hertfordshire farm where her mother was buried.
I don’t think I’d have been able to kiss him
An example being the case of Mary Bell, which I only (due to this thread actually) read the full details of very recently.
I've heard of her but read about her more. She suffered a lot as a child but I do like how she admits that it wasn't an excuse for her crimes. She seems to have not reoffended and has a grandchild. Rehabilitation can be done but only at a younger age it seems like.
I don’t think he’s a martyr at all. I was just sharing what he did. If anything his friend should be banged up with him.
To me a life for a life that’s what the punishment should be, not a prison sentence where you live to old age I don’t see that as a punishment the victims don’t live to an old age they were brutally murdered from what I’ve seen online people on death row are murder/rape. Murder alone, kidnap and murder etc etc.
Surely though you would rather them live to a old age in prison knowing that they are restricted forever rather than the easy way out which is death? They are on death row for 20+ years anyway. I've mentioned before it's torture for the victims families as they have constant letters about clemency hearings or going to life without parole. I would rather them go to prison and I never have to hear about them again until they die.
When has death, the literal end to existence, ever been an easy way out of anything?
I’ve just watched Sky crime about Lee Ford from Cornwall,Murdered wife and her children,Bloody horrendous.This piece of tit never ever be released.
www.cornwalllive.com
Lee Ford | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers
Murderpedia, the free online encyclopedic dictionary of murderers. The largest database about serial killers, mass murderers and spree killers around the world
murderpedia.org
Murderer who killed family could be released in coming years
Lee Ford murdered his wife and four stepchildren before embarking on a calculated cover-up to hide his crimes
From what I’ve seen their death isn’t exactly painless is it. So technically they’re not dying peacefully.
I spent the weekend doing my regular read-through of the list of unsolved murders 1990s to present on Wikipedia.
Now I'm feeling a bit spooked because one of them just came up on local news as it's the 25th anniversary and the family are still campaigning for justice and want a public enquiry. It seems the police handled the case badly.
en.m.wikipedia.org
Now I'm feeling a bit spooked because one of them just came up on local news as it's the 25th anniversary and the family are still campaigning for justice and want a public enquiry. It seems the police handled the case badly.
Killing of Jay Abatan - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
- Status