Prison life

[StillLucilleBluth]

Following this thread! My dream alternative career is prison psychiatrist. Is that mad?! It’s prob not quite like they show it on things like The Fall…

 

[LuluBanks]

I used to watch this girl after what happened with her ex husband you think she would have gave men a rest for a few years

It’s the exact opposite. She has been sexting with her current husband for ten years while he was in prison. This is when she was happy family with her ex(baby father). Then that ended with claims of severe domestic abuse (both have claims of violence instigated by the other. Most recently she beat him up in front of their kids in November when he refused to get back with her.) She married her husband in June and then turned him into the feds for a parole violation so that he was out of the way for her current BF to move in with her. During that period she had a number of sexual interludes with at least two other guys. I say enjoy yourself but don’t have all these guys in your home around your young children!

She is a horrible person who continues to represent herself as a hardcore prison reform activist and push a lie about how hardcore anti-snitch she was and is. Which is funny because just now she is tagging the Arkansas State police in her posts about how the recovery and prison community is mean to her.

 

[moreanimalsplease1]

Absolutely loads are in prison due to mental health issues. I’ve got a lad who went to a police station & started smashing it up and threatening the officers with a broken bottle purely for the fact he was struggling with his mental health & wanted to go back to prison.
It is really sad & during keyworker sessions (which rarely get facilitated but I love when I get detailed keyworker) you can actually sit and have a somewhat deep conversation about their past and what some of them have been through is absolutely horrible.
I don’t condone crime in the slightest but hearing everyone’s individual stories you can’t help but feel for them in some way and have empathy towards them and then others are just downright vile human beings who have had everything given to them on a plate, a normal ish upbringing and are just awful awful people

And that is the key aim for people like @eggfriedrice

He is a success story and he should be proud of that

A classic example of Correlation ≠ Causation. I recently read an interesting study by Halle et al. (2020) who examined the link between Mental Health, Crime and Violence.

I’m a scientist so not exactly linked to the justice system, but I find it both fascinating and upsetting. I’m a huge advocate for prevention through education and reform, so I thank you both for all you do
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I work in adult MH services, we assess lots of different types of people from people who are working in professional jobs to ex prisoners and everyone in between.

You’re amazing! Thank you for helping these people

 

[Elle Woods]

CPS do

CPS are not the police. They're a separate body. And I'm not sure they choose the judge?

 

[Account3774]

What would happen if you had a mortgage by yourself but then had to go to prison?

 

[Kas01980]

Wow Thank you for sharing that as I can imagine it was hard

Depends on a number of things:

The management structure for a start. There is ultimately whats called a Governing Governor (you’ll have maybe seen me say No1). They are in in overall charge of the jail. Then there are a number of governors below who manage different departments - so security, operations, equailty…all sorts of shite.ad made up job titles Below them there are what are (I think still) called Custodial Managers who are the most senior uniform grade who run the day to day stuff. SO’s (Senior Officers) then report to them and they are responsible for the teams of officers.

If the person at the top of the tree is crap then it filters down to everyone else. AND the Uk prison estate was built in the 19th century. So its falling to bits. Then the government forget to spend money, morale of the staff goes, outcomes for prisoners get worse. Vicious circle

Thankyou, unfortunately it HAS defined me and I have no one in my life now apart from my family as so called friends have been shitty as well. It sounds ridiculous but some of the people I have "met" on Tattle are some of the loveliest people who I'd love to have as real friends.

Thank you for the insight into your job as well, I have been DYING to ask you about your job, but there's a time and a place and the SB thread isn't it. I actually thought you were a solicitor/barrister at one point but then other bits you mentioned swayed me away from that. Your role sounds so interesting.

That's exactly what Winchester looked like...old and falling apart...this was back in 2003 though so no idea what it's like now. I also remember there being litter absolutely everywhere, and the waiting room floor was plastered in mud...weird the things we remember!...the visit itself doesn't really stand out in my mind, just the actual state of the place

 

[mrs.darcy]

This is such an interesting thread. @Ambrosie thank you for sharing your experience.

My work used to take me into my local prison back in the 90s, I worked with staff rather than directly with prisoners but obviously interacted with them at times.

I once attended a session where 2 lifers talked about their experience and how they had ended up in prison, this was in connection with a qualification I was doing at the time.

 

[Terflife]

None of us could really answer that without compromising security. But there are well practiced multi-agency plans if the worst were ever to happen.

No amok would be run

@stunrw
Ohhhh, ok. Is that the reason why we were put behind our doors when the girl set fire to her cell?
it was really bad, & fire brigade came, which we LOVED!! . 50+ horny, sex starved prisoners seeing a few men in uniforms almost caused a (happy) riot! The noise coming from the girls was deafening! A few girls got nicked because they refused to go behind their door. Our flaps were left open , but bc of our shouting at the firemen they were shut, but if you bang your door you can make the flaps open . .
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@stunrw
So I take it you're a p.o/OSG? (I normally say screw, but out of respect for you I won't. )
can I ask a question (without compromising your safety) ? ....
who would / do you prefer to work with?.... Men, or women? & why? Also do you prefer local, resettlement, open? Etc.
x.

 

[Peakyblinders]

Nothing to add other than I was obsessed with this thread and sad it has gone quiet

I know everyone is always really curious about what it’s like in a prison but it’s really dangerous and unprofessional for prison staff to talk on a public forum about what goes on behind bars. Governors would not take kindly to it and security definitely would not.I can’t explain how stupid it is. Prisoners families or even worse…. Prisoners could read this and I don’t think people realise how catastrophic and dangerous that could be

 

[Terflife]

If you need a new bra and knickers how do you get them?
I assume the bras aren't standard prison issue because of the variety of sizes needed, but are knickers?
And what do standard prison issue knickers look like, if there's such a thing?

Big granny knickers... plain or flowers,
They give you bras. All brand new.
I was given new bra & 3pack of knickers, but had my own sent in. In reception you're given (if needed) clothes (tshirts, jumper, joggers etc) night dress, socks, undies, dressing gown.
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To get back on topic: any good prison documentaries people can recommend?

I’ve enjoyed First and Last 24hrs on YouTube, Parole and Tagged on BBC, and one just called “Prison” on Channel 4.

Any others?

C4's "prison" was filmed in 2019 over a few months (then on tv in 2020) & paddy (man who made it) was really nice, when he wasn't filming hed stop & chat. He saw & heard A LOT but kept his word (he didn't tell the screws )
you had to have your pic taken & sign a paper if you agreed to be shown /filmed.
Tbh it's a shame he only got to show 3 episodes. He was filming for ages & loads he could have shown instead of Janine! She's all mouth.

 

[Tifastrife]

Edinburgh prisoner with gangland links found dead behind bars at Saughton

Prison chiefs confirmed that Police Scotland has been advised and the matter reported to the Procurator Fiscal. A Fatal Accident Inquiry will be held in due course.

www.edinburghlive.co.uk

I’m in shock, I knew this guy. He was a really nice guy growing up but it was a Case of getting caught up with the wrong people, I wonder what’s happened. Are they likely to release a cause of death?

 

[Libbylulu]

Porridge

 

[Ravenstown]

Really interesting, thank you! Enjoy your day off!

Cooking in kettle - they make anything and everything! Usually mackerel curry or some kind of rice/pasta dish, but they’re so clever and cook all sorts of things!

OMG triggered! Ugh, I went out with this horrible coercive weasel for a couple of months. He cooked tinned mackerel curry every Thursday. I bet this was what he cooked in his four month stint I learned about once I'd finished with him.

He'd been sent down for putting his ex in hospital, then breaking the harrassment thing by contacting her sister.

 

[SunshineRae]

Ahhh thanks @eggfriedrice you're a star! Good to know not all prisons have sky sports (from your reply on the Stephen Bear thread). That would be a proper piss take!

 

[Zulkraa]

One of the prisoners on there used to be ok TikTok and came across that he was completely reformed, helping people with their mental health. Seeing him on here, he was the one that confronted Sid at the beginning and squared up to the Google box guy. Such a shame seeing him like that compared to what he was like on tiktok

They were asked to behave how they would when they were in prison.

 

[stunrw]

Hey @eggfriedrice Hope you are ok and all your wing counts are accurate

 

[Lucyxxxx]

Ooooof IPP. Biggest bunch of arse ever. Good to hear he's doing well and his contact is good.

You get freaks who hurt kids and all sorts who haven't served a quarter of what he has and he's never hurt a child/woman or done anything sexual/deviant. Obviously he's no saint but I do get sad for him sometimes. He said its not even being in jail that ever bothered him but it was the not knowing when he would get out.

 

[stunrw]

I was going to ask about kettles in cells. But thought it was a dick question.. Seems it wasn't. I didn't think kettles in cells would be allowed, do people not end up getting boiling water thrown over them in fights? Is "prison napalm" an actual thing??

Oh yes, it's a thing. Boiling water mixed with sugar. It's not a nice thing to witness
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It's the same with a good old fashioned potting........trust me you do not want to be around when that cocktail that's been living under the heating pipes for a week or so, ends up on someone

 

[al255]

depends what kind of prison, regime , your IEP etc.
if you're on basic & you don't have education or work then you'll be behind your door.
you do get called to go outside , but that will be on your wings exercise 'yard' . Which in the nice weather happened everyday. The healthy gym heads would run around, most would sun bathe. Summer was a killer inside, it got way too hot. I had a fan but it just blew hot air.
I n the winter it was too cold..... Sanitary towels were used to cover the vents on the windows. .
Some prisons have animals, & gardens where veg, flowers, plants etc were grown, which got you outside a lot more .
there's all different kinds of jobs for prisoners,

Wow thanks for the insight. I find it bizarre they can’t just go outside whenever they want. I’m aware it’s probably for safety reasons and fights etc and it has to be done controlled.

Terflife - what was your first night ever in prison like?! Where you scared? I hope you don’t mind me asking questions and I’m glad prison helped you.

 

[ggukxo]

In my experience, the CPS work very closely with the police and they do in fact have a lot of control over which judge presided over a case. You lot can talk about how they’re not meant to and that the UK is not like the US and blah blah blah, but in MY EXPERIENCE they were able to delay a case being brought to court because they were waiting for a particular judge that they had chosen to sit over it.