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Im not ok

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Few questions please!

So obviously you can't work whilst you're in prison, do you get benefits?

Can you take your own make up/face wash/shampoo?

You can use the Internet I take it..?
You can’t take anything into prison you have to buy all toiletries in there, you have to buy shoes and clothes there aswell, family can order them things which is really easy to do I know you can order from WHSmith for them to deliver but you can’t order from Amazon.

you don’t receive benefits as you don’t need them while in there, family send in money for them to buy things But I’m not sure how people without any family buy things?
 
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princessmaire80

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Another question 🙈 What do they do on xmas day?
They have a Christmas lunch, and watch rubbish Christmas TV like everyone else! I know my friend was saying she’s glad she’s going to be in for Xmas as she gets to see others (she lives alone and has no family, and I’m spending Christmas with my husband and widowed mum so I can’t see her either)
 
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eggfriedrice

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I always think of prison on a sunny day. I wonder if they are locked in a cell whilst it's sunny outside or whether they have a garden 🤔
Where I work yard is first thing in the morning before movement to work/domestic periods and that’s the only time they’re able to use the exercise yard daily… if you don’t get up/decline to go outside then it’s tough basically until the next day 🤷🏽‍♀️
 
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Terflife

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What happens with the washing? Do you get your own clothes /underwear back?
My boyfriend's granddad is in a care home & all the washing goes together, then it just seems to be a free for all - size dependent. 😕
Is it like that?

Or are there name tags in everything?
Yu get a netted wash bag& put your dirty washing in it, & it your name, prison no. & cell number. You have allocated days , it also depends what wing your on, if your on an enhanced or long term wing you can do it yourself (depending what jail it is)
you can't put underwear in. You have to wash them yourself.
it's always best to become pals with the woman who works in laundry.... That way you get stuff washed whenever, and you can get washing stuff for your own use & your stuff doesn't "accidentally"go missing. 😂..
 
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stunrw

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Haha, right gotcha.

I did wonder with your bier - not trying to watermelon you - sounds very interesting!




Thank you. I'm interested to hear.

I'm not in any kind of law, professionally, but in another life I'd love to be some kind of detective. Not necessarily police but I'm a nosy bugger and quite good at finding out stuff. 😂
If anything federal in Europe rocks up you are having a really bad day 😂

Bier is an 🥕 but could be a number of countries 😂

You should apply. Be better than some of my colleagues who struggle to work the coffee machine 😂
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Everything I know about prisons comes from books I’ve read, which are most likely embellished, but one sticks in my mind - The Governor by Vanessa Frake. She’s a hell of a woman! What struck me though was that she truly thought that prisons need more money to rehabilitate, provide more education etc. So the conundrum I find is that prison is supposed to be a deterrent and a punishment - if we are treating it as a sort of grown-up-school-come-rehab, is there any deterrent or punishment? I’m not saying I agree with one way more than the other, I don’t actually think I know enough about prisons and what goes on to have an opinion but it’s definitely something I’ve thought about a lot. It seems that along with all these different prisoners comes a massive host of problems - drugs, mental health, alcohol dependency, emotional and behavioural problems, the list goes on. How do you have a blanket rule for all those different people? You can’t, it will never work. Might work for some and scare them off ever setting foot outside the line again but others it will intensify into monsters.how on earth can it be done though? It seems an absolutely insurmountable task.

Prisons were punishment initially and that was that but as the years have gone on and we have evolved, it’s just no longer that simple.

Apologies if none of that makes sense, it’s been a really long day!
A lady, who I have endless respect for is now the boss at a particularly nasty jail in the UK. She lists that book as one of the reasons she still goes to work in the morning because she wants to make a difference to those peoples lives
 
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Ravenstown

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Do women's prisons onnly have female officers? and vice verse? And in your respective work places, eggfriedrice (you're making me hungry) and stunrw, do you have any trans prisoners and how is that managed?

(I'm not trans btw I'm just interested because it's quite current).
 
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Longtimelurker xoxox

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Love this thread and the prison wives one! I’d be scared shitless to be in a prison but I have been in plenty of pyschatric wards so it’s a little the same I suppose? Not sure if people will agree! I read a autobiography recently called the governor it was brilliant!
 
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SunshineRae

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I can’t comment on every prison just mine however it doesn’t happen very often, that gets reported anyway.
I’ve caught two guys giving each other head in the showers but it was consensual. Also caught two guys in a double pad having sex but again consensual. There has been allegations of sexual assault but it’s usually by the LGBTQ+ prisoners and when investigated they turn out to be untrue/over exaggerated as to what has actually happened.
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen though because it does.. I’ve just not came across that in my career..

I wouldn’t say pull out of the assessment - but I would say declare absolutely everything when they ask.
I have a half brother (met him a handful of times) who is constantly in and out of prison which I declared when I started as it would be a conflict of interest if I ever went to a prison he was in. I don’t have anythjng
Thank you so much ❤
Honestly I’m not going to lie, when I first started I was shit scared! I still going into situations now & my belly goes all funny with the anticipation of what’s going to happen because things can kick off in an instant, but you’ve just gotta fake it until you make it! They pick up on EVERYTHING.. they know if you’re scared & will play on that. My first shift as an officer I was in kit doing a planned removal (so moving a prisoner from his cell to the seg) and I was so nervous 😂 I was with officers that had loads of experience and here’s little old me (well I was 22 at the time) kitted up in riot gear, facing a prisoner who had 2 weapons who was ready to fight anyone, and just had to get on with it!
In terms of confrontation - yes. I get it absolutely every day. It wouldn’t be a day in the prison without an argument with one of them. But as weird as it sounds, I work with these prisoners day in, day out.. I can have a major argument with one of them and then 9 times out of 10 go in the next day and it all be fine or a lot of the times they do apologise to me.
We had a lad the other day who missed his video call for his parole, never been an issue on the wing, good as gold enhanced prisoner - he came down to get his lunch meal & just started swearing in my face telling me to fuck off and we’re all useless blah blah, got him back to his cell and then when he came down to his evening meal he apologised and just said he shouldn’t have taken his frustrations out on me but tbh it is what it is.. I get moody sometimes if I’m in a bad mood and the smallest things piss me off and they’re all like “ah you’re in a mood today” 😂🤷🏽‍♀️
But yeah, you’ll always get confrontation. (Unless you’re a yes man who lets them get away with anything, unfortunately that isn’t me & whilst I have banter with them, they know not to cross the line with me)
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Hahahah, imagine!! 😂
Thank you for all your replies (not just to me). You sound like you are brilliant at your job and I would say the prisoners are lucky to have you (whether they realise that at the time or not lol).
 
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eggfriedrice

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Bolts, bars and how much shite have you got in here
I swear some of them could open a bloody shop!!! It’s ridiculous… always the ones that don’t order things from canteen either, they just run the wing & everyone pays them in canteen
 
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stunrw

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Definitely. He’s not been back inside since he spent all that time there. It was a relief when he went there even if he did ring me (on my then-partners number he thought was mine for some reason, good job my ex is a fab understanding bloke) at 4/5 in the morning every morning for a chat bless him.
And that is the key aim for people like @eggfriedrice

He is a success story and he should be proud of that
 
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stunrw

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We’ve recently had a new governor, well he started when I transferred there last year but from what people were saying the previous governor was AWFUL!!!! Did not care about staff at all!!
I agree it’s a dump though. But what prison isn’t?! 😂🤦🏽‍♀️
I cant say ive visited a UK one that ive ever thought “its better than a Travelodge”.

But ive met some seriously talented officers and staff who work in fairly squalid conditions managed by some serious dickheads.

Few of whom have become really good mates. One of which is coming to stay with us next week 😂😂😂😂
 
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Terflife

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If i was put in prison , I would keep doing stuff to be put in segregation. I can't imagine having to share space with loads of women. It would drive me mad. I would rather be segregated for the whole sentence with books and sleeping 😴 hahaha.
😂😂. It's really not that bad, it's not like you see on the U.S. docs where there's 100's of men, or women to a wing.
it's (depending on what type of wing) normally (about/average) 60 women over 2 landings. But each prison, wing, & type of wing is different.
If you landed at a prison that was mostly double cells just tell them you're racist, violent or something bad.... You'll get your own cell then. 😂.
only problem with purposely getting yourself put in seg is it goes on your files, IEP, etc.
inside they keep records of EVERYTHING you do, even down to telling a screw to f**k off after a row. 😮😂.
If you're doing a long sentence it could affect your future regarding rotls, parole etc.
but you may decide you like living on a rowdy wing with 30+ crazy azz women!? 😂😂. Xx.
 
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I feel so sorry for bedwatchers when they come into the hospital. I mean, it must be so boring!
My husband loves bed watches because it’s easy overtime (unless the prisoner dies which is then a lot of paperwork. He’s also an FLO -family liaison officer - so has to break the news to the next of kin, deal with coroners and arrange and attend funerals)

He said it just depends who you’re on a bed watch with. Not the prisoner but the other member of staff.
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Mr YR is an officer in a Cat 3 prison in the North. His love/hate thing is watching prison based dramas and then critiquing everything 🙄😂
Cat C, not 3. Jeez.
 
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Showmethemoonie

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One of the prisoners on there used to be ok TikTok and came across that he was completely reformed, helping people with their mental health. Seeing him on here, he was the one that confronted Sid at the beginning and squared up to the Google box guy. Such a shame seeing him like that compared to what he was like on tiktok
I’m sure even if you’re reformed those experiences don’t leave you. I can imagine just being back in a prison, even if you’re not actually locked up and it’s all for show, would take you back there pretty quickly. I know it’s not real but it’s still pretty uncomfortable to watch!
 
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