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JV describing Preston as “very needy” makes my blood boil! No compassion whatever. It boggles my mind given his profession. He should have a really good understanding of trauma and adverse childhood experiences. Infant mental health is to be taken seriously. The first 1000 days from conception to 2 years can have a life-long effect on a child’s health and wellbeing. Even a baby who’s not had the challenges Preston experienced can be “needy”. I have no idea how JV passed an assessment to adopt. He must have modified his responses.

Baby’s can experience poor mental health. In my authority there is a specialist team. Sleeping and feeding issues can be an indicator
 
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JV describing Preston as “very needy” makes my blood boil! No compassion whatever. It boggles my mind given his profession. He should have a really good understanding of trauma and adverse childhood experiences. Infant mental health is to be taken seriously. The first 1000 days from conception to 2 years can have a life-long effect on a child’s health and wellbeing. Even a baby who’s not had the challenges Preston experienced can be “needy”. I have no idea how JV passed an assessment to adopt. He must have modified his responses.

Baby’s can experience poor mental health. In my authority there is a specialist team. Sleeping and feeding issues can be an indicator
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Hard agree.

Of course Preston was "needy". He's a BABY!

He's totally helpless and entirely dependent upon his carer. He's in a strange place. He's with strange people. His usual routines have been disrupted . . . and on top of all of this, he's being tortured and abused, and when he isn't being tortured and abused he's being left alone to cry in pain and fear. He was terribly distressed. And he had every right to be.
 
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The only believable part is that the poor baby is sick as soon as he sees this disgusting creature. The fear and terror he must have had to live with, I think it will stay with me forever.

Did I read somewhere on this thread he asked a friend to go and remove sex toys as he did not want his Mum to find them. Is this more proof of his panic and trying to destroy evidence. I cannot even believe I just typed that.
 
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They had so many red flags raised on these disgusting creatures. Are social services that under pressure to place the most vulnerable with these disgusting POS..
 
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Does make you wonder if they've been mentioned in her statement for a reason 😔
Yeah I think a lot of nuggets are being dropped that will be significant later. Fair play to her for refusing to do that, I bet she has preserved vital evidence
 
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JV describing Preston as “very needy” makes my blood boil! No compassion whatever. It boggles my mind given his profession. He should have a really good understanding of trauma and adverse childhood experiences. Infant mental health is to be taken seriously. The first 1000 days from conception to 2 years can have a life-long effect on a child’s health and wellbeing. Even a baby who’s not had the challenges Preston experienced can be “needy”. I have no idea how JV passed an assessment to adopt. He must have modified his responses.

Baby’s can experience poor mental health. In my authority there is a specialist team. Sleeping and feeding issues can be an indicator
Absolutely. How can a baby not be needy? What was he expecting? 🤷🏽‍♀️

Varley must have told so many lies to get approved. Makes me think no amount of checks can stop predatory monsters accessing vulnerable children, because they will always find a way. 🤢 But monitoring during the adoption process needs to be and could be much more robust. And multiple hospital visits in such a short space of time absolutely needs to be seen as the red flag it obviously is. 🤬
 
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Absolutely. How can a baby not be needy? What was he expecting? 🤷🏽‍♀️

Varley must have told so many lies to get approved. Makes me think no amount of checks can stop predatory monsters accessing vulnerable children, because they will always find a way. 🤢 But monitoring during the adoption process needs to be and could be much more robust. And multiple hospital visits in such a short space of time absolutely needs to be seen as the red flag it obviously is. 🤬
I completely agree with all of this. If Preston were on a CP plan with his birth family, do we think the hospital admissions would have been enough to remove him? I personally do think he would have been. Because Jv was a teacher, an adaptor, a safeguarding professional, he was automatically believed and seen as trustworthy. His story wasn't scrutinised the way "charmaine, from the council estate" would be, it was assumed he was telling the truth whereas it would be often assumed birth parents are lying. I believe that directly contributed to Prestons death.
 
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In that video he says they were in the process of moving house, I really feel for whoever bought their house after them. House of horrors.
 
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Varley must have told so many lies to get approved. Makes me think no amount of checks can stop predatory monsters accessing vulnerable children, because they will always find a way. 🤢 But monitoring during the adoption process needs to be and could be much more robust. And multiple hospital visits in such a short space of time absolutely needs to be seen as the red flag it obviously is. 🤬
Imo, Varley must have had a sexual interest in babies/children, I don't understand how you can go from a point of no pweirdo tendencies to sexually abusing a baby in just 4months. If this is correct then presumably he had previously accessed csa images, if this is the case I guess it would come out in the trial.

The obvious conclusion is that anyone adopting/fostering/working with children should have their phones and laptops checked, but this is unrealistic and would never happen, also parents don't face this scrutiny.

I'm just thinking out loud really - I don't know how pdfs can be prevented from accessing children, as they obviously lie and conceal that they are a pweirdo, especially the likes of Safeguarding Lead and head of year JV 😕
 
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How DO you go from normal gay guy to prolific abuser of a baby in so little time unless you had those proclivities already there.
I believe that proof will come out that they had these fantasies for a long time.

But, my question is, if he was such a tit actor at the hospital where it was transparent he was faking, how was it he fooled those during the adoption process?
 
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How DO you go from normal gay guy to prolific abuser of a baby in so little time unless you had those proclivities already there.
I believe that proof will come out that they had these fantasies for a long time.

But, my question is, if he was such a tit actor at the hospital where it was transparent he was faking, how was it he fooled those during the adoption process?
I think JV's overdramatic performance at the hospital is interesting and a big giveaway - genuine shock and grief doesn't look like this, but he doesn't have those real emotions, he's under extreme pressure and he is acting how he thinks those emotions would feel. Compare JV's reactions to JMF - JMF is more believable and it looks genuine.

During the adoption process, there is no panic, it is meetings and questions. JV is familiar with meetings with professionals and he knows all about safeguarding - so this is a comfortable environment for him, he knows how to behave and there's no pressure.
 
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How DO you go from normal gay guy to prolific abuser of a baby in so little time unless you had those proclivities already there.
I believe that proof will come out that they had these fantasies for a long time.

But, my question is, if he was such a tit actor at the hospital where it was transparent he was faking, how was it he fooled those during the adoption process?
Because he was cool, calm, collected JV during the adoption process, a man in control. A man who knew he had others seemingly eating from the palm of his hand.

By the time of the hospital he was a desperate man in a state of extreme panic for himself. I dont think it was acting as such, I think he was in a complete meltdown. His brain was so disregilulated he was randomly shouting out things. I dont think it was acting, more leakage he couldn't control.
 
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I think JV's overdramatic performance at the hospital is interesting and a big giveaway - genuine shock and grief doesn't look like this, but he doesn't have those real emotions, he's under extreme pressure and he is acting how he thinks those emotions would feel. Compare JV's reactions to JMF - JMF is more believable and it looks genuine.

During the adoption process, there is no panic, it is meetings and questions. JV is familiar with meetings with professionals and he knows all about safeguarding - so this is a comfortable environment for him, he knows how to behave and there's no pressure.
Yes, the hospital performance wasnt one he practised beforehand. John seems more aware that this is something they cant smoothly explain away. That hes facing into an investigation where every facet of his private life will be minutely pored over, and he's facing significant prison time. Its grief all right, but not for Preston.

JV seems to think his fake wailing will fool the hospital into not alerting the authorities. He is used to getting attention and sympathy when he goes all dramatic and it worked up to this point, classic DARVO moves.

He strikes me as someone who would be a nightmare to work with. One of those office queens who bully and gossip and when pulled in by HR go all wide eyed and position themselves as the victim of the drama they caused.

But this...this isnt a prom gone gong that he can wail his way out of.
 
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Because he was cool, calm, collected JV during the adoption process, a man in control. A man who knew he had others seemingly eating from the palm of his hand.

By the time of the hospital he was a desperate man in a state of extreme panic for himself. I dont think it was acting as such, I think he was in a complete meltdown. His brain was so disregilulated he was randomly shouting out things. I dont think it was acting, more leakage he couldn't control.
Yes, this is what I think, he was genuinely panicking in the hospital because he knew what he'd done and he knew he was caught.
It's so interesting what you say about leakage because he says I'm done, I'm going to hell, I effing killed him, he even says that he's going to be done for child neglect and that is exactly what his initial arrest was for.
He's literally telling us what he's done and what is going to happen!
I remember there was an FBI statement analyst called Peter Hyatt, he used to analyse the interviews and statements of Madeleine McCann's parents, and he used to say if a person tells you what they've done, believe them!
Another thing I remember him saying is that there are red flags in statements, for example, the number three is the liar's number and if it appears a lot in statements it's a red flag.
Another flag is a lot of talk about bathing and showers, it's a red flag for sexual abuse, and when I saw the amount of times Preston is mentioned as being in the bath, it did remind me of what Peter Hyatt had said.
 
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Yes, this is what I think, he was genuinely panicking in the hospital because he knew what he'd done and he knew he was caught.
It's so interesting what you say about leakage because he says I'm done, I'm going to hell, I effing killed him, he even says that he's going to be done for child neglect and that is exactly what his initial arrest was for.
He's literally telling us what he's done and what is going to happen!
It can be read several ways can’t it - firstly a kind of dramatic, self-piteous kind of thing. Oh poor me, I was a model adoptive dad but now I’m going to get done for neglect, it was an accident but it was my fault because I left him in the bath, I killed him, boo hoo.

But there’s also a subtext of admitting the lesser crime of neglect, to deflect from the SA and the act of suffocation that likely killed Preston.
 
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Seeing the hospital admissions written out like that is mind blowing, how did his arm not raise an immediate red flag?! The prosecutor said "a part of the bone was caused to sheer off", how many here with children have had them have an arm fracture at that age? So infuriating it wasn't investigated further.
 

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