Preston Davey Trial

[VeniVidiVicki]

I don’t know anyone older than their early 20s who uses snapchat. It’s an odd thing for a couple in their late 30s to use to communicate

 

[Here2BNosey]

I didn't realise JMF and JV were still together 2 years after.......
I've changed my mind, he can **** off as well.
I was really hoping we would hear he had run for the hills, when the penny dropped.

What i noticed from the police interviews,
How did he get this bruise? No idea, dont know, haven't a clue etc.
Then, oh THAT bruise, I know ALL about that bruise, it was nothing to do with me, it was someone else. Well isnt that convenient you noncey fat fuck!!!

 

[Upintheair83]

This case is beyond horrific, probably the worst case iv ever read about. I don't even know if I can read anymore.
I have no words to even describe the depths of depravity that this delves into.
And I'm finding myself looking at every man I pass on the street, every man I see in a shop, every delivery driver, every man in a business suit, having a drink at a bar.....just every man... I'm starting to look at and wonder. I'm wondering what's on their mobile phones, what do they seek out? Does their smile hide a dark secret? And I hold onto my sons hand a little tighter and think of beautiful, innocent and pure little Preston, and quite honestly its breaking my heart.

 

[Fauxphiehinchcliffe]

Is anyone else finding this harrowing to read and feels like they should stop reading yet somehow feels compelled to carry on?

that poor poor boy

I have been feeling the same. I also felt that way reading the trial updates regarding Star Hobson, Arthur Labinjo- Hughes…Sebastian Kalinowski.
All those precious children who should have felt love and safety.

It really hurts and really affects me; but I feel like if this children had to LIVE it and experience it then I should
Be able to
Stomach reading it.

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

i honestly think they adopted him specifically to abuse him. You don’t go from quasi normal (albeit angry and intolerant) parenting to sexual abuse within 4 months. They fooled everyone - the agency, the social worker, their friend and family, the panel. Every single person and authority who were supposed to safeguard failed Preston. As other people said, my heart is breaking for his family and his foster family.
My neighbour is now retired but fostered babies and very young children for years. Most of them keep in touch and they have a houseful every Christmas. They have 3 kids of their own but their foster kids also think of them as home. When it works, it’s beautiful

 

[VeniVidiVicki]

I dont need to follow any more. I don’t need to read details of how they raped and abused this poor baby. This is enough.

They are monsters.

The social workers and the friend who he sent that video to belong in jail just as much as Varley does.

I cannot even comprehend this level of sick fuckery.

 

[nothinonyou]

The difference in the two interviews is staggering, the first one all soft spoken and contributing, I'd say he thought he'd give his false account and then police would disappear. He's extremely pissed off two years later when the whole thing hasn't gone away he's so passive aggressive rolling his eyes and yawning. Don't think I've ever seen such a narcissist, sick, demented pig in all my life

 

[moldwarp]

The thing I never understand with so many of these SA cases is why they have to hurt them too? I can get SA (well I can't but you know what I mean) because that's the attraction but I don't understand the need to hurt and scare him too? Even IF there is some possible explanation other than SA he deserves to have the book thrown at him just for being so awful to him.

Fetish. For a lot of male sexual abusers, the fear and humiliation of the victim is a big part of the turn on. This isn’t me spitballing, it’s well researched and well documented.

This is why many sexual sadists and serial killers take time with the victim before killing them, because they love to see their fear. For example Robert Ben Rhodes who had his victims dress up in ill fitting clothes from previous victims and then took photos of them in extreme fear when they worked out what he was going to do with them. There’s a photo of his last victim online that’s honestly one of the most chilling images in existence.

This is why a lot of sex abusers often start out with indecent exposure. They get a thrill from the fear and confusion of the victim and it can escalate from there.

This known behaviour pattern is of course one of the MANY reasons why allowing men into women’s toilets and changing rooms if they claim they’re “trans women” is a really, really terrible idea.

 

[Tanley]

Regardless of who was looking after him, the amount of visits that Preston made to A&E in a short time should have been a red flag that needed to be investigated.
Did he suffer with breathing problems, regular accidents, and bruise easily while with his loving foster family? I suspect not, and that should have been another red flag.
A healthy, happy, yet vulnerable baby suddenly becomes accident prone. Why didn’t anyone join the dots?

Children/babies need love, protection, comfort, stability. They need to feel safe. Clearly poor Preston had none of these things in his adoptive home

On paper, JV would seem to be capable of being a good parent. An experienced teacher, a safe guarding lead, middle class, nice house, family support. He was able to talk the talk and impress those who needed to be.
Yet he clearly didn’t cope with Preston from day one, complaining about him crying and saying his foster mum had spoilt him
The physical, sexual and emotional abuse started happening so quickly that I can only conclude that it was JV’s main purpose in wanting to adopt a baby. He is a vile, disgusting excuse for a human being and I hope he suffers every day for the rest of his life.

 

[Emsie]

I can't fathom it. When I met my baby, I didn't love him from the first instant, that came much later and he didn't love me, completely normal. But omg the overwhelming urge to protect him was much stronger than with my birth children - probably linked to compassion cus he had had such a hard start. And I still feel like that now, very over protective of him (and of course I love him). I can't believe that they didn't want to nurture and protect that precious boy. Honestly I cannot cope with this anymore.

 

[TheMiceInTheShed]

JV describing Preston as “very needy” makes my blood boil! No compassion whatever. It boggles my mind given his profession. He should have a really good understanding of trauma and adverse childhood experiences. Infant mental health is to be taken seriously. The first 1000 days from conception to 2 years can have a life-long effect on a child’s health and wellbeing. Even a baby who’s not had the challenges Preston experienced can be “needy”. I have no idea how JV passed an assessment to adopt. He must have modified his responses.

Baby’s can experience poor mental health. In my authority there is a specialist team. Sleeping and feeding issues can be an indicator

BIB

Hard agree.

Of course Preston was "needy". He's a BABY!

He's totally helpless and entirely dependent upon his carer. He's in a strange place. He's with strange people. His usual routines have been disrupted . . . and on top of all of this, he's being tortured and abused, and when he isn't being tortured and abused he's being left alone to cry in pain and fear. He was terribly distressed. And he had every right to be.

 

[Ray_of_Sunshine]

I’m just having a read of the live reporting for today. I’m quite taken aback by how rushed the adoption process seemed to be. Considering those two had no experience, with one of them not even able to hold him properly. Children in these situations are extremely vulnerable and should never just be handed out to any Tom, Dick or Harry. What a fuck up.

 

[Tofino]

I’ve only read here and the first episode of the trial podcast and I think JMF will find it hard to defend he had no idea JV was causing harm. There is evidence of him receiving videos/images and associated messages from JV plus the level of injuries, the delays seeking medical attention etc show he wasn’t acting to protect Preston. Even if JMF was controlled and coerced by JV (just as a hypothetical example) that won’t be a good enough defence for causing or allowing the death of a child.

This is probably the worst case I’ve ever heard of. That poor baby was tortured time and time again and died in one of the worst ways possible. I have total faith in the jury.

 

[Itchy of Itchington]

How the fuck did they think that they could pass it off as an accidental bath drowning when that is so far from the cause of death? I can only think they were hoping there’d be no post-mortam. The description of Varley then going over to try and give him mouth to mouth when he’d already been pronounced dead in the hospital was, I fear, a last ditch attempt to transfer explainable DNA onto his mouth.

Because they are arrogant as fuck. They've fooled other people, especially Jamie who seems to have had people asking how high when he said jump. All the staff fussing over him, the headteacher making a welfare visit, asking colleagues for their medication, dramatic collapsing in the hospital. Sociopaths or narcissistic personalities think they are superior to everyone and that people won't ever be able to see through them. Having got away with breaking his arm and the bruising he then considered himself untouchable. Everyone danced to his tune. The prosecution barrister will make mincemeat of him if he decides to speak in his own defence. I wouldn't be surprised if he loses his temper

 

[maytoseptember]

The jury will never get over this. It'll haunt them all of their lives.

I know trial by jury is one of the cornerstones of our legal system, but the fact ordinary folk can be plucked off the street and forced to take part in the most harrowing trials really troubles me. Like you say, it will haunt them and yet they had no choice.

 

[rosieflowers]

This case makes me feel so ill how can the foster carer who looked after and loved that smiley little boy for 10 months go on, knowing what these monsters did to him? I cant even bear to think about what they did to him but I cant get this case off my mind I have an 18 month old son and it's making me feel sick I know children cant always stay with their parents and his mother must hve been in a bad way to have taken him from her at 6 days. But this is just beyond the pale. Some family friends of ours went through the process to be approved as adopters. The woman was adopted herself so is hugely empathetic. They have tneir own natural son who is a lovely boy and so well looked after. They have loads of proven family support. But they were declined because she'd experienced depression as a teen I understand they can't take any risks like that but to think people like this manage to fool everyone, and then when red flags were raised, they arent followed up on? The most horrid horrid case I think I've ever read

 

[flippa24]

I have a 9 month old baby boy and I keep looking at his little face and bursting into tears I wish I could’ve loved Preston and gave him the life he deserved. This truly is horrific, how can anybody hurt a child

 

[maytoseptember]

I got really upset this morning driving to work just thinking about how scared he must have been and not being able to get away they’re just utter monsters the pair of them

The only way I can follow this trial at all is to be quite clinical and detached. Whenever I stop and think about what they really did to him, and the pain and terror he would have felt… I can’t actually bear it.

 

[MmmB777]

Oh look, can recall throwing the nappy out the window, how long he was out the room etc but can’t recall recording and rewatching a video he made on his phone of a baby dying. That selective memory is very familiar.

 

[watermelonvapes]

Sorry I'm posting so much in here but this case is taking over my mind, it honestly has me tormented. But I've a possible theory, perhaps its tinfoil hat but I've read all the details and spent an unhealthy amount of time thinking about it all.

JV made a lot, and I mean a lot of comments to people about how he was struggling. I want to put him in the field of cows, he's dead, he's spoilt, the foster parents spoiled him, I'm struggling with dark thoughts blabla. It doesn't really couple well with someone trying to hide the abuse that theyre committing. So it made me think there must be a reason why he was saying all that so openly, he is a tactical psychopath by all accounts so I think everything he said was for a reason..

I think maybe they planned to get a baby to abuse when it was small and non verbal, but not keep. I think he was setting up the backstory for the adoption to fail, so he could discard that poor child before he became too dangerous to abuse. A year off work to fulfill his sick desires and then return to sympathy and back pats. Loads of photos as a memory until he took it so far he killed him. Thoughts?