That’s an odd thing for one of their mothers to say.
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That’s an odd thing for one of their mothers to say.
It’s hard to know whether their stories are changing or is it the witnesses just getting bits/bobs from second hand which is making it appear like their accounts are changing?
I found one of the statements interesting about Jamie throwing himself on the floor and shouting but there were no tears…he really put on a performance didn’t he.
Im sickened by some of the suggestions - the milky fluid
, him bathing him for a second time that day, the video… that poor little baby.
I can see where some of the threads of their defence are coming through but imo, I don’t think it will be enough but I appreciate the defence haven’t had their turn yet. Just from this incident, not a lot makes logical sense - you would expect him to be wet, you’d expect him to have produced water during resuscitation, the blood gases are also key evidence for me personally - that would be swaying me as a juror hearing that
I found one of the statements interesting about Jamie throwing himself on the floor and shouting but there were no tears…he really put on a performance didn’t he.
Im sickened by some of the suggestions - the milky fluid
, him bathing him for a second time that day, the video… that poor little baby.I can see where some of the threads of their defence are coming through but imo, I don’t think it will be enough but I appreciate the defence haven’t had their turn yet. Just from this incident, not a lot makes logical sense - you would expect him to be wet, you’d expect him to have produced water during resuscitation, the blood gases are also key evidence for me personally - that would be swaying me as a juror hearing that
I came to say the same thing, she is the hysterical Varley‘s mother. She is speaking the truth, he wouldn’t have died on her watch, only a few hours earlier he was bouncing happily on her knee. I hope she takes the stand.
The time stamp on the video of Preston struggling to breath in a baby grow on a bed is enough for me if I was a jury member, he lied and said he took him straight to hospital from the bath, phone data says otherwise. He dried, dressed and video’d him, then later stripped him to a nappy before taking him the hospital, 5 minutes in a car from their house. He left him struggling all that timeIt’s hard to know whether their stories are changing or is it the witnesses just getting bits/bobs from second hand which is making it appear like their accounts are changing?
I found one of the statements interesting about Jamie throwing himself on the floor and shouting but there were no tears…he really put on a performance didn’t he.
Im sickened by some of the suggestions - the milky fluid
I can see where some of the threads of their defence are coming through but imo, I don’t think it will be enough but I appreciate the defence haven’t had their turn yet. Just from this incident, not a lot makes logical sense - you would expect him to be wet, you’d expect him to have produced water during resuscitation, the blood gases are also key evidence for me personally - that would be swaying me as a juror hearing that
It was confusing me they used many descriptors thank you
How the duck did they think that they could pass it off as an accidental bath drowning when that is so far from the cause of death? I can only think they were hoping there’d be no post-mortam. The description of Varley then going over to try and give him mouth to mouth when he’d already been pronounced dead in the hospital was, I fear, a last ditch attempt to transfer explainable DNA onto his mouth.
Because they are arrogant as duck. They've fooled other people, especially Jamie who seems to have had people asking how high when he said jump. All the staff fussing over him, the headteacher making a welfare visit, asking colleagues for their medication, dramatic collapsing in the hospital. Sociopaths or narcissistic personalities think they are superior to everyone and that people won't ever be able to see through them. Having got away with breaking his arm and the bruising he then considered himself untouchable. Everyone danced to his tune. The prosecution barrister will make mincemeat of him if he decides to speak in his own defence. I wouldn't be surprised if he loses his temper
Moment teacher who 'sexually assaulted baby' says, 'I killed him'
Jamie Varley, 37, was said have blurted out the comment after racing into the hospital with 13-month-old Preston Davey limp in his arms.
do not click if you don't want to see images of Preston as he is taken to hospital
This was noticed by one of the hospital staff treating him, something like he was wearing a diaper fitted correctly. Like you’d stop to put a diaper on, Varley is full of
, not as clever as he thinks. These little clues coming through how much lying he’s doneI keep reading the court reports and want there to be an explanation that means they didn't harm the poor baby. I miss inferences in the reporting or wonder what things mean. Some explanations offered in here help and also the podcast as they explain the evidence and there's a lot of things that I find difficult to find explanations for.
I think Varley is guilty, no doubt but I'm not as sure about M-F, that may become clearer as the trial progresses. The comments from Varleys mother are very odd in context. I just don't want it to be true and little Preston didn't suffer at their hand and have all these people let him down and fail him who were meant to protect him, it's too horrible.
I think Varley is guilty, no doubt but I'm not as sure about M-F, that may become clearer as the trial progresses. The comments from Varleys mother are very odd in context. I just don't want it to be true and little Preston didn't suffer at their hand and have all these people let him down and fail him who were meant to protect him, it's too horrible.
There’s 2 stories come out during the trial of why Varley “supposedly “ left the bathroom. One was to fetch towels and the other to change his pyjamas. Not that I believe a word but why would anyone choose to leave a baby in the bath to change your own pyjamas 
I’m astonished that after everything they put poor Preston through they didn’t have a clear or believable story on arriving at the hospital. Arrogance yes, but also trying to scrape every last bit of damage control they could. However I think there’s genuine panic there too- whatever they did to that poor little soul as the fateful final act I don’t think they expected that it was enough to kill him.
Oh Varley is the more fattish one. Feel sick watching them pair of freaksMoment teacher who 'sexually assaulted baby' says, 'I killed him'
Jamie Varley, 37, was said have blurted out the comment after racing into the hospital with 13-month-old Preston Davey limp in his arms.www.dailymail.com
do not click if you don't want to see images of Preston as he is taken to hospital
The size of the large beastMoment teacher who 'sexually assaulted baby' says, 'I killed him'
Jamie Varley, 37, was said have blurted out the comment after racing into the hospital with 13-month-old Preston Davey limp in his arms.
do not click if you don't want to see images of Preston as he is taken to hospital
that poor little baby stood no chance. I think the bare feet thing was a calculated act to appear innocent to the hospital staff to portray that he didn’t even have time to put his shoes on in order to get Preston to A&E like the selfless hero that he is. I suspect that accounts for stripping him down out of the sleep suit as well to keep up the pretence of the bath story he’d concocted. Reality is he deliberately suffocated that baby in the most depraved way not once but twice and filmed him struggling to breathe after the deed was done. He probably did leave him unattended to shower himself. Wash away the evidence of what he’d been up to before doing anything about the dying baby he’d just abused. There was no urgency to seek help until he realised this time Preston’s little body couldn’t take it any longer. One sexual assault too many. They have evidence Preston was sexually assaulted twice the day he died. I just can’t even put into words the pure anger and hatred I feel towards these two.
So awful 
Unfortunately these monsters aren’t far from me. Drove past their house a fair number of times and always surprised to see it still standing.
I've just caught up with this thread. Been following the case since it went to trial as I'm a parent by adoption and this has rocked the adoption community. I just wanted to clear up a few misinterpretations on Preston's adoption.
He was removed from his birth mothers care because he was at risk of harm. That's usually drugs / alcohol whilst pregnant. Foster care is temporary and on the basis that she was having contact with Preston there was clearly some hope of returning him. Obviously that didn't happen and the plan for adoption continued. His birth mother had opportunities and support to change and chose not to for whatever reasons.
These two monsters were not "rushed" through because they are gay. Family finding is tough and the needs of the child are paramount. They match parents to children, not children to parents. It's split into two stages and I believe the monsters took a break between stage 1 and 2 so absolutely not rushed at all.
You are allowed to change children's names. Social services don't like it but they can't stop you. Sometimes it's advised in high risk situations. Mine changed my son's name and I'm not a red flag.
Once the child is placed you can't apply for the adoption order for 10 weeks and you need social worker support. It's really common for children not to "settle". Of course, it's all new. I imagine that they were discouraged from applying for the order until Preston showed signs of attachment and settling in. It's honestly ridiculous that they expect this to happen in 10 weeks.
The adoption process is intrusive and hard. But I don't blame at social services door. These two have manipulated and abused the system for their disgusting gain. Overworked, underfunded social services shouldn't take the blame.
He was removed from his birth mothers care because he was at risk of harm. That's usually drugs / alcohol whilst pregnant. Foster care is temporary and on the basis that she was having contact with Preston there was clearly some hope of returning him. Obviously that didn't happen and the plan for adoption continued. His birth mother had opportunities and support to change and chose not to for whatever reasons.
These two monsters were not "rushed" through because they are gay. Family finding is tough and the needs of the child are paramount. They match parents to children, not children to parents. It's split into two stages and I believe the monsters took a break between stage 1 and 2 so absolutely not rushed at all.
You are allowed to change children's names. Social services don't like it but they can't stop you. Sometimes it's advised in high risk situations. Mine changed my son's name and I'm not a red flag.
Once the child is placed you can't apply for the adoption order for 10 weeks and you need social worker support. It's really common for children not to "settle". Of course, it's all new. I imagine that they were discouraged from applying for the order until Preston showed signs of attachment and settling in. It's honestly ridiculous that they expect this to happen in 10 weeks.
The adoption process is intrusive and hard. But I don't blame at social services door. These two have manipulated and abused the system for their disgusting gain. Overworked, underfunded social services shouldn't take the blame.
Surely the mum knew something ? Her comment saying it wouldnt have happened if he was with her? If he was being SA'd then surely when mum was changing nappy she would be seeing sore area ... it doesnt add up! And why did John have no shoes and socks on aswell surely him coming straight home and leaving for hospital straight away he wouldnt have bothered taking his shoes and socks off this case is disturbing that poor baby !
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