I think JV took the photo from his POV.
Gosh I hadn't read this in the live reporting and thought the video had been released to the media then!The video of him between JV legs in the bath suffering from post asphyxia issues![]()
I keep going back to the word "depraved"It’s hard to tell with this reporting who has taken these photos. If Preston is between JV’s legs () then has JMF taken the pic? It’s like they thought photographing the aftermath of their attacks (the fluid drool/struggling for breath) was a less risky memento from their attacks.
I don’t know why but the forcing his eyelid open to look at his eyes rolling back has particularly upset me. You panic if you’ve ever accidentally shocked or startled your babyor you put them in the swings and actually they cry or get upset so you either gently reassure and go slowly or you whip them out altogether. To spin him so forcefully that his eyes roll back and then to force them open to look at that and film it - absolute abject cruelty. It’s incomprehensible.
We all hope for that, but how many times have we heard ‘lessons will be learned’.There must be an inquiry afterwards and it must must must bring about change!!!
Here's the latest episode:I thought there was another podcast episode today?
It's up now on Spotify.I thought there was another podcast episode today?
JV’s defence KC was the prosecuting KC in the Lucy Letby trial. His name is Nicholas Edwards, he was known for his “Big Nick Energy” ON THE LL thread, for his intellect and cutting comments, this was shortened to BNE by the tattlers on the LL thread. He was a force of a prosecutor. In BNE I trust that JV will not be able to make any appeals on the basis of being inadequately represented in court. BNE is top of the field in KC circles, JV has one of the very best representing him.What’s BNE?
I wonder if the short breaks the live reporting keeps saying are happening are because people are getting upset (completely understandably)
Nick Johnson KC was the prosecution barrister in the Lucy Letby trial. “BNE” was a nickname people used for him there. Apologies, I had seen so many comments from people who were in the the Letby trial thread, that I assumed everyone would know who I meant. I should have been clearer.What’s BNE?
I wonder if the short breaks the live reporting keeps saying are happening are because people are getting upset (completely understandably)
Any family members with children will have likely been referred to social care so they could consider any potential harm experienced by them and ensure there were safeguards in place in respect of their contact with them post Preston’s passing.I think they would have been prepared for this ,. probably long moved out of Blackpool and same for John's family. Their lives will never be the same and I bet they question every interaction those two had with their kids as well.
The case has already gone viral anyway I've seen it covered in America with that awful AI image of the two with the baby
would anyone mind summarising todays evidence or sharing a link to where it can be read?I think today’s reporting is the most harrowing thing I’ve ever read.
I cant even find the words for the level of evil, sadistic torture they inflicted on that beautiful, innocent and vulnerable baby.
Plus the sheer arrogance of thinking they could get away with it. His last months were filled with pain and terror and no sentence in the land is enough for them.
I follow MEN for the live reporting.would anyone mind summarising todays evidence or sharing a link to where it can be read?
Sorry if this has been said as just catching up. But I think they definitely went through the adoption for that one sole purpose. (Especiaaly JV). I think they maybe gave themselves that year for the "prom" etc to educate themselves what to do and dangers if you know what I mean. They made sure they would be accepted first for adoption and what they should be doing etc. Sorry, this is so awful and like all of you I just wish I could have taken Preston and given him all the love and comfortThis is exactly how I feel, the abuse was pre planned.
I see photos of his beautiful happy face, so innocent and trusting.
And then it hits me again, the disgusting things they did to him.
I feel so sick about it all, why didn’t anyone save this poor little baby![]()
Whole life, I hope.What kind of sentence length would these guys be looking at?