this first comment is when she didn’t know the full story of what polly has actually said.. the second picture after finding out.. i wonder how many of these people defending her have actually seen the posts or just jumping to defend her because she has a following
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extra_extra
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Why is it always "i had bad mental health at the time"
I have bad mental health but i don't go around spouting racist abuse online
I have bad mental health but i don't go around spouting racist abuse online
judgejohndeed
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Jesuschristo
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Deffo written by her mum lol, no chance she could ever reach that level of eloquence
judgejohndeed
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The problem with this kind of 'right of redemption' everyone keeps talking about for influencers etc is that it comes at the cost of other people having to forgive and forget, which isn't fair to force on people affected. How do you balance that? People can follow who they want on social media, they can buy products from whoever they want, they can collaborate with who they want. Does this 'right of redemption' involve making people continue following/buying/working with a person they now find unpleasant? I would also say the more public the hateful speech, as well as the volume of it, should be proportionate to the action taken by the person who spewed it. It annoys me when these things are all bandied together under the 'cancel culture' umbrella to be honest. We are not talking here about one or two occasions (as Polly's Mum seemed to think) or even one marginalised group (not that this would make it better). I was literally sat with my mouth open reading what Polly had said, as a rape survivor especially I can't get what she said out of my mind. The idea that someone would hear about my experience and sit there gleefully thinking 'I'm glad that isn't me' - it turns my stomach. I think it is fair that the consequences for so many posts like that over such a long period have to be greater?
laurenwelshie
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The studio is officially empty!
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Lurker5053
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To Polly, who I hope (and think likely!) Is reading this.
1) it's not an apology if you don't apologise to your victims.
2) it's not an apology if you use it as a way to gain future sales ("I'm donating a percentage of profits going forward")
3) it's not an apology if you use it to promote your business - giving packs of your own products to schools??? Jesus the entitlement of thinking your products are so amazing vulnerable kids will benefit from them.
4) it's not an apology if you blame the people who discovered your awfulness, for discovering it. Slides 2 and 4 are the worst for this - "there has to be a better way of encouraging growth"??!!!
5) it's not an apology if you blame people knowing you're a bigot for your staff's livelihoods struggling. You being a bigot is why they are affected.
6) it's not an apology if you don't take personal responsibility - I am slightly older than you, from a not dissimilar background and never spewed an iota of the hate you did. About 4 years ago I self confronted how I had used to use the word 'gay' in a harmful way - I've donated monthly since then to multiple charities around the world fighting homophobia, as well as being a vocal ally at work and socially when homophobia rears its head. I've never denied that I used gay inappropiately as a slur and I've used my own experience when working with teens go help them recognise how 'jokey' slurs still cause pain and should be stopped. I still don't feel like I've redressed the wrong, I would never deny it, and I will live my whole life honestly with that guilt.
7) it's not an apology if you blame your mental health - guilting your audience into never mentioning your bigotry again.
8) it's not an apology if you try to control how your audience respond ("I would have started a conversation").
9) it's not an apology if you reframe the goal - "you should empathize with me" rather than "I did awful things and I am sorry".
10) it's not an apology if you like responses excusing you for what you did and said.
And the biggest one - it's not an apology if you don't acknowledge EXACTLY what you said and did, taking responsibility for how it was uniquely you who made the decision to put that insane negativity and hatefulness out there, and let your whole audience make an informed decision on whether to follow you.
1) it's not an apology if you don't apologise to your victims.
2) it's not an apology if you use it as a way to gain future sales ("I'm donating a percentage of profits going forward")
3) it's not an apology if you use it to promote your business - giving packs of your own products to schools??? Jesus the entitlement of thinking your products are so amazing vulnerable kids will benefit from them.
4) it's not an apology if you blame the people who discovered your awfulness, for discovering it. Slides 2 and 4 are the worst for this - "there has to be a better way of encouraging growth"??!!!
5) it's not an apology if you blame people knowing you're a bigot for your staff's livelihoods struggling. You being a bigot is why they are affected.
6) it's not an apology if you don't take personal responsibility - I am slightly older than you, from a not dissimilar background and never spewed an iota of the hate you did. About 4 years ago I self confronted how I had used to use the word 'gay' in a harmful way - I've donated monthly since then to multiple charities around the world fighting homophobia, as well as being a vocal ally at work and socially when homophobia rears its head. I've never denied that I used gay inappropiately as a slur and I've used my own experience when working with teens go help them recognise how 'jokey' slurs still cause pain and should be stopped. I still don't feel like I've redressed the wrong, I would never deny it, and I will live my whole life honestly with that guilt.
7) it's not an apology if you blame your mental health - guilting your audience into never mentioning your bigotry again.
8) it's not an apology if you try to control how your audience respond ("I would have started a conversation").
9) it's not an apology if you reframe the goal - "you should empathize with me" rather than "I did awful things and I am sorry".
10) it's not an apology if you like responses excusing you for what you did and said.
And the biggest one - it's not an apology if you don't acknowledge EXACTLY what you said and did, taking responsibility for how it was uniquely you who made the decision to put that insane negativity and hatefulness out there, and let your whole audience make an informed decision on whether to follow you.
Wickedtown
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the "meet the team" section of sighh is broken... possibly just a coincidence, or indicative of a major switch-up?
LividLalji
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No idea who this girl is but it screams performative bullshit to me. No idea why just get a bad vibe
I keep seeing tweets from Janey Godley on Twitter discussing her surgery and all I can think is the absolute AUDACITY of Polly’s mum to think JG might give a fuck about Polly being called out for her racist tweets at what will obviously be one of the most stressful, emotional, scary times of her entire life.
Any normal person would’ve recognised that and it wouldn’t cross their mind to bother her with something so inane and selfish but Polly and her mum clearly have no regard for anybody but themselves.
It says so much about them that she did this hahahahahahahaha honestly it’s living rent free in my mind. How EMBARRASSING for them!!!
Any normal person would’ve recognised that and it wouldn’t cross their mind to bother her with something so inane and selfish but Polly and her mum clearly have no regard for anybody but themselves.
It says so much about them that she did this hahahahahahahaha honestly it’s living rent free in my mind. How EMBARRASSING for them!!!
Randomlyorange
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Polly Vadasz #4 No more stories, too busy being racist with the Tories
judgejohndeed
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The stuff about helping mental health charities in schools or whatever leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Ordinarily the average reasonable person would consider this a good cause. But to me this seems like she thinks the victims here needing reparations from her are…other bigoted kids like her? And it feels weird to even point that out because objectively, that IS a good cause, just somehow just doesn’t sit right
totes ridic
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As expected, she’s trying to remove herself from the situation again - It wasn’t me, it was teenager Polly. 
And love, nobody cares about your business ideas, and you using your downfall as a way to move forward with your exciting new plans for Sighhh is crass and opportunistic. Read. The. Fucking. Room.
Also, if you want to do outreach work then do the research yourself. How arrogant to ask interested parties to make the effort to contact you to help you rebuild your shattered reputation. Never gonna happen.
And love, nobody cares about your business ideas, and you using your downfall as a way to move forward with your exciting new plans for Sighhh is crass and opportunistic. Read. The. Fucking. Room.
Also, if you want to do outreach work then do the research yourself. How arrogant to ask interested parties to make the effort to contact you to help you rebuild your shattered reputation. Never gonna happen.
TeaSpillLil
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I've just seen this from pocket perfect designs on FB
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BattieHattie
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I really respect Beth from Spliltmilkpress.
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snoopygirl
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Same. No offence but every time I get a notification for this thread I get excited and then it’s just someone posting about how they weren’t bigoted as a teen.