Pete Doherty

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Ok my last chance to book tickets to see the film. Has anyone seen it and do you recommend it before I spend my money?
Did you watch the Mark Blanco doc on ch4? I’d say watch that first and then decide before you spend your money
 
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I think you’re vastly overestimating his popularity in the UK. His bands weren’t that successful at their peak so there’s no way they’ll shoot up the charts when he eventually kicks the bucket. I’d say he’s pretty much forgotten about now. He was more famous for the tabloids than his music. Now, he’s just an old name people have forgotten. A relic of the mid 00s days of junkie fashion.
This may be the case re Babyshambles, but The Libertines were huge and still have a massive following. Whether you are a fan of Pete or not, their music was, and still is, loved by many
 
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Does Pete even have much money? In the doc he pointed at a restaurant and said he skipped out on them without paying the bill. Either he does it for a thrill (once a junkie always a junkie I guess) but I got the impression his wife is the one with the money.
 
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This may be the case re Babyshambles, but The Libertines were huge and still have a massive following. Whether you are a fan of Pete or not, their music was, and still is, loved by many
They definitely have fans but were never huge and not popular enough for their albums and singles to top the charts. Come on, let’s be realistic. His inevitable early death will be met with a collective shrug by most of the general public.
 
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Did you watch the Mark Blanco doc on ch4? I’d say watch that first and then decide before you spend your money
The documentary will be tonight's viewing for me.
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Does Pete even have much money? In the doc he pointed at a restaurant and said he skipped out on them without paying the bill. Either he does it for a thrill (once a junkie always a junkie I guess) but I got the impression his wife is the one with the money.
I was amazed he admitted that on camera - such a crappy thing to do.
 
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They definitely have fans but were never huge and not popular enough for their albums and singles to top the charts. Come on, let’s be realistic. His inevitable early death will be met with a collective shrug by most of the general public.
Chart history says they had a number 1 album and two top 10
 
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Does Pete even have much money? In the doc he pointed at a restaurant and said he skipped out on them without paying the bill. Either he does it for a thrill (once a junkie always a junkie I guess) but I got the impression his wife is the one with the money.
Yes, I think they said the nice house on the cliff side was her parents’ house. Pete’s a scrounger and a sponger.
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That wasn’t clear, your post says they weren’t popular enough to top the charts, but they did, clearly.
The conversation was about his albums/singles topping the charts when he dies. You need to read the whole conversation and context before jumping in and making yourself look foolish with pointless arguments. Of course we all know their second album went to #1. Any chimpanzee can look that up on Wikipedia in two seconds.
 
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I don't think he would have gone there by accident. He was obviously kind of known - especially as he brought someone with him. A night that got out of hand in a crack den with a load of idiots and unfortunately he was the one that got worst off it.
I was not aware he brought someone with him, pretty sure he went alone. Though he did definitely go there on purpose- very bad decision.
 
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Does Pete even have much money? In the doc he pointed at a restaurant and said he skipped out on them without paying the bill. Either he does it for a thrill (once a junkie always a junkie I guess) but I got the impression his wife is the one with the money.
Definitely got the impression its his wife with the money. The house they were seen in on the Theroux documentary was, I think, her parents. It looked gorgeous.
 
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Definitely got the impression its his wife with the money. The house they were seen in on the Theroux documentary was, I think, her parents. It looked gorgeous.
I don't think he has much money. If you go onto Companies House you can find The Libertine accounts (always an interesting read) certainly in the last couple of years they have made diddly squat.
 
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I think it’s pretty obvious he’s dying and he knows it. I assume Katie knows it too, hence baby and the marriage for inheritance tax reasons.
It did come across that way. Spoken like a true addict who doesn’t want to put in the work - “oh it’s too late now, I might as well carry on”.

He doesn’t HAVE to be dying. He’s only 44 FFS. But he’d have to stop the booze and the drugs and the smoking, and I don’t think life has any meaning to him beyond that.
 
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Does Pete even have much money? In the doc he pointed at a restaurant and said he skipped out on them without paying the bill. Either he does it for a thrill (once a junkie always a junkie I guess) but I got the impression his wife is the one with the money.
When he was in the local rag for his court appearance for speeding the judge asked his income and he said 10k a month, i think he was also done for riding his segway on cliftonville seafront
 
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I think it’s pretty obvious he’s dying and he knows it. I assume Katie knows it too, hence baby and the marriage for inheritance tax reasons. Plus, he’s astute to know that when he dies he’ll be revered, and will become rich upon death. He obviously wants Katie to be able to access the money as easily as possible, which will be significantly simpler now they are married.
The Libertines/ Babyshambles will shoot straight up the charts, and his artwork and lyrics etc will go for loads when he dies.
I'm sorry I'm late to this part of the convo, but I think it's his Mrs who has money. I think the baby and marriage for inheritance tax reasons doesn't really make much sense, frankly. You make it sound like he's shrewdly planning his own demise. Sorry, I don't mean to discredit your opinion, but I think he's just an addict who's unwell and if he's going to die it's purely because he's unhealthy. He can get better if he stops drinking. Or even reduces it. I think he is just irresponsible and doesn't think that far ahead about his actions. He wants immediate gratification, so to see far into the future is very hard for people like him.
 
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“Sorry, I don't mean to discredit your opinion, but I think he's just an addict who's unwell and if he's going to die it's purely because he's unhealthy.”

That’s exactly what I think? Just also think that he’s planning ahead.
 
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I think it’s pretty obvious he’s dying and he knows it. I assume Katie knows it too, hence baby and the marriage for inheritance tax reasons. Plus, he’s astute to know that when he dies he’ll be revered, and will become rich upon death. He obviously wants Katie to be able to access the money as easily as possible, which will be significantly simpler now they are married.
The Libertines/ Babyshambles will shoot straight up the charts, and his artwork and lyrics etc will go for loads when he dies.
god I hadn’t thought about it like that but you’re probably right 😩
 
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“Sorry, I don't mean to discredit your opinion, but I think he's just an addict who's unwell and if he's going to die it's purely because he's unhealthy.”

That’s exactly what I think? Just also think that he’s planning ahead.
Oh, Ok I'm sorry. I meant I disagreed with planning ahead part. I didn't make that very clear. x
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We were talking about Pete's money...and I just saw this (probably semi BS) article in Daily Fail- (apologies if link doesn't work, lol)
 
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