Phil Anne Throw Pee
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Sorry, but all the wistful romanticism about a depraved junkie who has had ample chances to get clean but never truly bothered and who leaves young girls to die is making me boak. It's a definite fucking no from me.
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not-a-medical-Dr Jessica Taylor monetising the Russell Brand and David Walliams news is disgusting. She forced her vulnerable employees to sign an NDA to stop them whistle blowing. She threatened survivors of sexual abuse to sue them for “every single one of their assets” if they spoke up. She is one of the most dangerous people in the VAWG sector and does so much harm to women and girls.
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Discombobby
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This is a bit grim but I feel I should share it...When I was young I got latched onto by a couple of guys (one of which was 12 yrs older) who claimed to be 'musicians', They thought they were the living embodiment of rock and roll for some reason. Because they were from suburbia but drank in Camden? I was naive, just escaped a physically abusive relationship, and paid for loads of things for them out of my meagre wages, assuming they would pay me back.
What they actually did was introduce me to heroin and crack ( I had never wished to do that before and was happy with a bit of sniff and a drink occasionally) and encourage me to buy it for them, and have semi-consensual relations with me when I was fecked.
It seems like a low rent version of what Pete and his pals were upto a lot of the time...
What is wrong with some men? It really upsets me the likes of Pete have to do so much wrong before they can finally claim they want 'redemption' or whatever. When men hurt people they scar them and a lot of them just don't really care.
What they actually did was introduce me to heroin and crack ( I had never wished to do that before and was happy with a bit of sniff and a drink occasionally) and encourage me to buy it for them, and have semi-consensual relations with me when I was fecked.
It seems like a low rent version of what Pete and his pals were upto a lot of the time...
What is wrong with some men? It really upsets me the likes of Pete have to do so much wrong before they can finally claim they want 'redemption' or whatever. When men hurt people they scar them and a lot of them just don't really care.
Miss Havisham
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I find it hard to watch addicts like him in denial.
My brother is an addict, who has dabbled with recovery - but He has never shown any commitment to it. He has probably been off heroin for some time, but he is not clean. He cannot hold down a job, and any money has has goes on drugs of some sort. It was painful watching family members constantly bail him out (even after stealing from them), the distress he has caused. He went missing just before my sisters wedding day, turned up 72 hours later. He knew that family had feared that he had overdosed somewhere (so sisters day was ruined), but we got a lecture from him that marriage was a dead institution and we wouldn’t care if he lived or died.
He stole most of their wedding gifts (selling them for heroin) but denied it of course.
Over the recent years, it has all been about him. He is incapable of showing any empathy to others - and has denied a good 90% of the hurt he has caused.
He has a personality disorder - but as a teenager I didn’t understand his behaviour. I understand it more now, but I don’t see him as a victim, more of a perpetrator. Like Pete Doherty, I am amazed that he is still alive.
My brother is an addict, who has dabbled with recovery - but He has never shown any commitment to it. He has probably been off heroin for some time, but he is not clean. He cannot hold down a job, and any money has has goes on drugs of some sort. It was painful watching family members constantly bail him out (even after stealing from them), the distress he has caused. He went missing just before my sisters wedding day, turned up 72 hours later. He knew that family had feared that he had overdosed somewhere (so sisters day was ruined), but we got a lecture from him that marriage was a dead institution and we wouldn’t care if he lived or died.
He stole most of their wedding gifts (selling them for heroin) but denied it of course.
Over the recent years, it has all been about him. He is incapable of showing any empathy to others - and has denied a good 90% of the hurt he has caused.
He has a personality disorder - but as a teenager I didn’t understand his behaviour. I understand it more now, but I don’t see him as a victim, more of a perpetrator. Like Pete Doherty, I am amazed that he is still alive.
Lavendergreendillydilly
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I expressed my personal experiences of this awful person in another thread but I would just like to say that while I do encourage people to be empathetic towards addicts of any drug, he doesn't deserve a whiff of sympathy. He's not a good human being. He feeds, or at least when I had the displeasure of being around him he fed, off the vulnerable. Even if he was a normal guy, not on drugs and not famous he'd be that dick who'd perform feminism and treat women like shit while also sneering at you because you never read Hemingway.
Mimi_milkshake
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Back in the Pete and Kate era I was working at stansted airport when they walked past me to get to a boarding gate. Kate was beautiful and tiny so much smaller than I imagined her. Pete on the other hand looked like a walking ghost pale sweaty and a ridiculous swagger, he looked me dead in the eye winked and smirked. I was so confused didn’t know if I felt violated or quite cool 
I was only 17/18 at the time
I was only 17/18 at the time
brianbutterfield
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I agree, I thought he came across as a classic junkie eternal victim man child refusing to take any responsibility for his actions. A fragile little boy with a lovely bohemian wife who is now forced into the very unsexy role of ‘er indoors for eternity.
I know it sounds like a small thing but I was particularly dissaointed when he was showing Louis around the provincial town he now lives and was showing off that he owed a restaurant owner money so he needed to hide. It reminded me of something an 18 year old boy would have said to me when I was 15 to impress me. Pathetic.
Grow up Pete!
I know it sounds like a small thing but I was particularly dissaointed when he was showing Louis around the provincial town he now lives and was showing off that he owed a restaurant owner money so he needed to hide. It reminded me of something an 18 year old boy would have said to me when I was 15 to impress me. Pathetic.
Grow up Pete!
VielleFemme
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Well, off the back of this thread and the recent documentary, I read his book. What a massive dick he is.
I'm not sure which bit I found the most revolting - the constant refusal to take any real responsibility for any of his own actions, the sneaky, disingenuous blaming of everyone else around him, the ridiculous lies (e.g. his apparent shock and horror and confusion that singing the Nazi version of the German national anthem caused such an outcry - this is after he's told us that he was brought up for several years in Germany and had read a load of history books about the Third Reich - and who the fuck knows all the words and chords for the German national anthem anyway?), him essentially ignoring and having no interest in his own children, his total lack of remorse or honesty about Mark Blanco's death... all of it was foul, and so reminiscent of the junkies and alcoholics I've known. People who just won't take any responsibility for their own actions - everything is someone else's fault.
The bit that actually made me stop reading for good, though, was his sickening praise for Jeremy fucking Corbyn. Not interested into getting into any arguments about this, I'm Jewish and my kids and I were at the sharp end of all of that in 2019, but the fact that he can't see anything wrong with that twisted dried-up racist, but instead goes for some sort of pathetic half-baked conspiracy theory about the media bringing him down... yeah, just fuck off, Pete.
I didn't know that much about him beforehand - I know a lot more now, and I fucking hate him.
I'm not sure which bit I found the most revolting - the constant refusal to take any real responsibility for any of his own actions, the sneaky, disingenuous blaming of everyone else around him, the ridiculous lies (e.g. his apparent shock and horror and confusion that singing the Nazi version of the German national anthem caused such an outcry - this is after he's told us that he was brought up for several years in Germany and had read a load of history books about the Third Reich - and who the fuck knows all the words and chords for the German national anthem anyway?), him essentially ignoring and having no interest in his own children, his total lack of remorse or honesty about Mark Blanco's death... all of it was foul, and so reminiscent of the junkies and alcoholics I've known. People who just won't take any responsibility for their own actions - everything is someone else's fault.
The bit that actually made me stop reading for good, though, was his sickening praise for Jeremy fucking Corbyn. Not interested into getting into any arguments about this, I'm Jewish and my kids and I were at the sharp end of all of that in 2019, but the fact that he can't see anything wrong with that twisted dried-up racist, but instead goes for some sort of pathetic half-baked conspiracy theory about the media bringing him down... yeah, just fuck off, Pete.
I didn't know that much about him beforehand - I know a lot more now, and I fucking hate him.
slothella22
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I was about 19/20 when the Libertines were big. I saw them when they first started getting famous in the early 2000's for about £3 a ticket in Newcastle. The NME's press photographer was there and thought I was from the press too, so I had access all areas that night. My friend was obsessed with Pete. We went to his flat in London a couple of times. One night he invited loads of people over for a party and my friend was sick on his living room carpet. There is a picture somewhere on the internet of her puking and him holding the bucket to catch her sick. 
The last time I saw him back in 2004 on New Years Eve when he did four gigs in one night. The last gig of the night was in Manchester and I was convinced he wouldn't turn up. It was about 4am and I said to my friend 'look he aint coming, he's probably off his face on drugs somewhere and got lost halfway down the motorway'. Little did I know he was stood right behind me and tapped me on the shoulder. He ended up singing for around an hour and then left. Me and my friend chased after him and chatted to him for about half an hour before he got into a taxi and I never saw him again. Partly because I went off to Uni and my friend soon saw the error of her ways. I love the Libertines first album but it got too much about Pete and the drugs time and time again. It all got very boring after a while.
The last time I saw him back in 2004 on New Years Eve when he did four gigs in one night. The last gig of the night was in Manchester and I was convinced he wouldn't turn up. It was about 4am and I said to my friend 'look he aint coming, he's probably off his face on drugs somewhere and got lost halfway down the motorway'. Little did I know he was stood right behind me and tapped me on the shoulder. He ended up singing for around an hour and then left. Me and my friend chased after him and chatted to him for about half an hour before he got into a taxi and I never saw him again. Partly because I went off to Uni and my friend soon saw the error of her ways. I love the Libertines first album but it got too much about Pete and the drugs time and time again. It all got very boring after a while.
CocoVenus
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I had a brief and fully consensual 'fling' with Pete not long before he and Kate got together, or maybe even when they had- I don't know but it would have been early days. What I can say from that time without outing myself is that Pete, as far as I knew (and that wasn't exactly much) seemed outwardly a decent enough person.
However he was an addict, and with that came an entourage of hangers on and enablers, each with their own agenda, as they knew they could make money off him. Be it dealers, 'artists', 'friends', 'protection' etc. Even his own management to an extent, as I found out to my own detriment in the end. As did Kate Moss when one of his 'trusted' inner circle sold pictures of her doing cocaine in what she fully believed was a safe space with people she trusted. That should tell you everything about the morals of some of the people he considered friends.
I never met Paul Roundhill, but as much as he claims to have been a 'literary editor/agent' he was, by all accounts I heard from those who knew of him, a junkie and occasional dealer, and his flat was notorious for days long sessions.
Do I think someone desperate not to have their (often free or otherwise hugely compensated for if they could get it) drug supply, and also social status as one of that crowds 'in' people, cut off would go as far as doing something utterly fucking stupid and violent whist under the influence, which could result in the death of an innocent person? Yes. Do I have any empirical evidence for this? No. I just hope Mark Blanco's mother gets the answers for her son's death she deserves.
However he was an addict, and with that came an entourage of hangers on and enablers, each with their own agenda, as they knew they could make money off him. Be it dealers, 'artists', 'friends', 'protection' etc. Even his own management to an extent, as I found out to my own detriment in the end. As did Kate Moss when one of his 'trusted' inner circle sold pictures of her doing cocaine in what she fully believed was a safe space with people she trusted. That should tell you everything about the morals of some of the people he considered friends.
I never met Paul Roundhill, but as much as he claims to have been a 'literary editor/agent' he was, by all accounts I heard from those who knew of him, a junkie and occasional dealer, and his flat was notorious for days long sessions.
Do I think someone desperate not to have their (often free or otherwise hugely compensated for if they could get it) drug supply, and also social status as one of that crowds 'in' people, cut off would go as far as doing something utterly fucking stupid and violent whist under the influence, which could result in the death of an innocent person? Yes. Do I have any empirical evidence for this? No. I just hope Mark Blanco's mother gets the answers for her son's death she deserves.
Discombobby
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I agree with most people on here about the Louis Doc, just watched it (despite saying I wouldn't lol). It was a bit pointless in many ways. He obviously wasn't giving much away. Drunk as a fecker though, drinking calvados or whatever at breakfast time.
I got the impression he wasn't really that hands on with the baby despite the way he showed her, very sweet looking kid. I also did not appreciate seeing Pete semi nude, his body is utterly gross. He did mention his health issues, the main one must be his liver, but he skirted around admitting he had liver disease as it would mean he looks like an idiot for drinking. (He would have been advised to drink nothing whatsoever by the liver specialist.)
One thing that struck me was when they 'doorstepped' Carl in his hotel he (Carl) was clearly out of his mind on coke. Eyes like saucers and talking a mile a second. It seemed a bit disrespectful, both to Pete for Carl being on it, and the film crew for bursting in on Carl like that. It felt weird either way...
Pete also mumbled something like "when he was pushed over.." when talking about Blanco, but it cuts away and he slightly changes the subject. Listen carefully to the bit about Mark Blanco and you can hear him saying that and calling him an arsehole. He looks well shifty when he talks on that whole saga and Louis does not really press him at all.
So overall Louis has lost it as a decent interviewer, he also lacks understanding on addiction considering he had so many subjects who had all sorts of addiction problems with his older shows. Pete looks happy enough, and I'm really pleased he does seem clean, ish...(I don't think he's back on an eight a day of smack that's for sure)...God willing. But if he keeps drinking like that he won't live to see his daughter start her first day of high school. Losing your dad at a young age is awful and he really needs to knock the booze on the head.
I got the impression he wasn't really that hands on with the baby despite the way he showed her, very sweet looking kid. I also did not appreciate seeing Pete semi nude, his body is utterly gross. He did mention his health issues, the main one must be his liver, but he skirted around admitting he had liver disease as it would mean he looks like an idiot for drinking. (He would have been advised to drink nothing whatsoever by the liver specialist.)
One thing that struck me was when they 'doorstepped' Carl in his hotel he (Carl) was clearly out of his mind on coke. Eyes like saucers and talking a mile a second. It seemed a bit disrespectful, both to Pete for Carl being on it, and the film crew for bursting in on Carl like that. It felt weird either way...
Pete also mumbled something like "when he was pushed over.." when talking about Blanco, but it cuts away and he slightly changes the subject. Listen carefully to the bit about Mark Blanco and you can hear him saying that and calling him an arsehole. He looks well shifty when he talks on that whole saga and Louis does not really press him at all.
So overall Louis has lost it as a decent interviewer, he also lacks understanding on addiction considering he had so many subjects who had all sorts of addiction problems with his older shows. Pete looks happy enough, and I'm really pleased he does seem clean, ish...(I don't think he's back on an eight a day of smack that's for sure)...God willing. But if he keeps drinking like that he won't live to see his daughter start her first day of high school. Losing your dad at a young age is awful and he really needs to knock the booze on the head.
Miss Havisham
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He is not an addict in recovery. Swapping heroin for alcohol just makes the addiction different - and whilst under the influence of alcohol any hope of discipline is out of the window.
It appears (from the documentary) that he is still using drugs as well as booze. Perhaps he is not partying and using heroin like he did, but he doesn’t look or sound like he in recovery at all.
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Also in the Theroux doc, Doherty starts talking about sugar when his addiction is mentioned. It really stood out to me that this is the sort of nonsense that addicts will talk about - to swerve any proper discussion and recovery. I’m sure that taking sugar in his tea is the least of his worries.
Often in addiction the partners / family etc are not really considered. They have the most miserable lives - constant worrying / trying to help the addict / find them when they go missing / live in fear of dealers coming for them / paying off dealers and having to constantly clear up.
I noticed the sadness in his wife’s eyes - no doubt she is doing all of the parenting for the baby. She had that sadness about her that partners of addicts often have.
It appears (from the documentary) that he is still using drugs as well as booze. Perhaps he is not partying and using heroin like he did, but he doesn’t look or sound like he in recovery at all.
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Also in the Theroux doc, Doherty starts talking about sugar when his addiction is mentioned. It really stood out to me that this is the sort of nonsense that addicts will talk about - to swerve any proper discussion and recovery. I’m sure that taking sugar in his tea is the least of his worries.
Often in addiction the partners / family etc are not really considered. They have the most miserable lives - constant worrying / trying to help the addict / find them when they go missing / live in fear of dealers coming for them / paying off dealers and having to constantly clear up.
I noticed the sadness in his wife’s eyes - no doubt she is doing all of the parenting for the baby. She had that sadness about her that partners of addicts often have.
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Moira Rose
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This is an anonymous gossip site, we don't need to provide evidence because sometimes there isn't evidence you can provide without outing yourself here!?
People have first hand experiences with the chaos this man has caused around him, do you expect them to be filming him secretly so they can later in life post it on a goss forum?
I never understood this on Tattle. Read things with a pinch of salt, you decide if someone is lying. If their posts annoy you, ignore them and scroll on
People have first hand experiences with the chaos this man has caused around him, do you expect them to be filming him secretly so they can later in life post it on a goss forum?
I never understood this on Tattle. Read things with a pinch of salt, you decide if someone is lying. If their posts annoy you, ignore them and scroll on
Discombobby
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Yeah. It messes up your stomach really badly if you are a long term hard drinker. Your body starts literally trying to expel the booze by giving acid reflux/ vomiting to stop it going into the liver, which no longer works properly. It's really serious stuff.
I'm ashamed to say I suffer from Alcoholic liver disease. (first diagnosed aged 26). You really can't drink. ( I try really hard not to and usually manage, but occasionally I will have a glass of wine, and never ever spirits, even then I feel really guilty). If you don't drink then it won't get worse, but you can't undo the damage already done after a certain point. Apparently 90% of people who drink 3 drinks per day over a period of time will get ALD. It just does not really have symptoms in the early stages...But Pete is having big time symptoms. Booze is so fucking dangerous.
Sunshine&clouds
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I always thought he was a nightmare, but I read some interviews with him several years ago and he's actually intelligent and eloquent. I ended up feeling sorry for him having so many issues. Having said that, I think he uses his drug addiction as a tool to get more publicity and notoriety and I think that's extremely dangerous both for himself and fans. It's not that he glamorises drug addiction, he always looks horrendous, but he makes it seem part of his 'tortured soul' persona. That's really bad. Part of me suspects he isn't heroin ravaged all the time, just when he thinks it's necessary for one reason or another. I just don't think he could function to any level and also his organs would surely have given up years ago, if he was completely out of it 24/7. Either that or he has more lives than a cat.
MissHavisham
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Yes! Jumped out at me too. 'I hope Mrs Blanco can find assistance to come to terms with what happened to her son' in other words 'I'm tired of you hassling me about this boring old murder'The statement at the end from PD was quite somethingstrong shades of 'well I'm sorry you feel like that.'
Absolute cunt.
markcorriganscrisps
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I honestly keep waiting for a full-on UK music equivalent of Me Too but it just never fully materialises, it's so depressing. I'm fairly sure the majority of women who hung around bands (*of a certain age*, like myself) would have unending tales of grim experiences where they were taken advantage of, but it just never seems to take off when something is exposed.
I knew Johnny Headlock back in the day. He was a violent, aggressive, antagonistic man who tried to get free entry into a club I was running by offering 'a go' on a 16 year old Peaches Geldof.
He broke into my friends flat and stole his clothes, I watched him stab a man with a plastic fork because the man retaliated when Johnny was harassing him on a pool table. The man is/was a danger I have no doubt in my mind he murdered Marc Blanco and I have no doubt that Pete knew about this.
Pete used to shaggy young girls and try to get them to have sex without condoms if they really loved him. He's odious.
He broke into my friends flat and stole his clothes, I watched him stab a man with a plastic fork because the man retaliated when Johnny was harassing him on a pool table. The man is/was a danger I have no doubt in my mind he murdered Marc Blanco and I have no doubt that Pete knew about this.
Pete used to shaggy young girls and try to get them to have sex without condoms if they really loved him. He's odious.