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Can anyone that’s been on the Evorel Sequi patches tell me if they make you have a “period” ? If they do, then does that count as a natural period? I’m so confused. I’ve only been on them two days
 
Can anyone that’s been on the Evorel Sequi patches tell me if they make you have a “period” ? If they do, then does that count as a natural period? I’m so confused. I’ve only been on them two days
I usually start my period when I start the progesterone patches, a couple of days after.

. I have always had periods though. Lately they are longer apart and lighter though. Though I started on Monjouro October which has messed with them a bit. Did you have periods before starting on them?
 
Hi everyone, I'm mega stressed at the moment and started bleeding for the first time in 8 months over the weekend. Do you reckon this is close enough to count as post-menopausal bleeding to warrant a GP trip, or should I just watch and wait for now?
 
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Hi everyone, I'm mega stressed at the moment and started bleeding for the first time in 8 months over the weekend. Do you reckon this is close enough to count as post-menopausal bleeding to warrant a GP trip, or should I just watch and wait for now?
You’re not in menopause until you have gone a full year without a period. Any bleeding after menopause needs investigating.

If you’re still in peri and haven’t had a period for 8 months then you need to start counting again until you don’t have a period for a whole year.
 
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I usually start my period when I start the progesterone patches, a couple of days after.

. I have always had periods though. Lately they are longer apart and lighter though. Though I started on Monjouro October which has messed with them a bit. Did you have periods before starting on them?
I haven’t had a natural period for 5 months now so I’m just wondering if the patches will give me a fake period? And will that then reset the count towards the 12 months of no periods before official menopause?
 
Can anyone that’s been on the Evorel Sequi patches tell me if they make you have a “period” ? If they do, then does that count as a natural period? I’m so confused. I’ve only been on them two days
Yes, every 4 weeks. They're pretty regular now, when I start a new box then I'm usually getting my period within 2-4 days.
 
I haven’t had a natural period for 5 months now so I’m just wondering if the patches will give me a fake period? And will that then reset the count towards the 12 months of no periods before official menopause?
Yes you’ll get a withdrawal bleed after you finish your pack. It’s not a period as such, because it isn’t natural like a period, you’re just shedding the womb lining because you stop the patches containing progestogen so the lining breaks down.
Unfortunately you’ll have no way of knowing when you’re officially menopausal as you’ll bleed monthly. I believe GPs switch you to continual HRT once you reach 55, as most women are post menopause by then. Once you switch to that, you shouldn’t bleed anymore.
I’m on Everol sequi and sometimes I bleed twice a month, because I still have periods and my own cycle overrides it. So I have my own period and then also get a withdrawal bleed when I stop the combined patches (my own cycle is generally shorter than 28 days). It’s annoying, but don’t think there’s much I can do about it so just put up with it. I’m guessing as my own periods become more irregular I’ll only bleed once a month hopefully.
 
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Contacted my local medical centre to make an appointment to discuss if what I’m feeling is peri menopause or anxiety or depression or if I need a kick up the a. I’d seen a GP there when I was in getting my coil fitted about 18 months ago and she was really good, easy to talk to, understanding, knowledgable on women’s health etc. Earliest I can get an appointment is mid March! I almost balled crying.
 
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Contacted my local medical centre to make an appointment to discuss if what I’m feeling is peri menopause or anxiety or depression or if I need a kick up the a. I’d seen a GP there when I was in getting my coil fitted about 18 months ago and she was really good, easy to talk to, understanding, knowledgable on women’s health etc. Earliest I can get an appointment is mid March! I almost balled crying.
Call again. I didn't see anyone face to face when I had my HRT prescribed. I had a phone appointment, explained my symptoms and they prescribed.
Making someone wait who may have depression is disgusting. Any medication could have started working by the time you get to see anyone .
Makes me so sad and angry
 
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Call again. I didn't see anyone face to face when I had my HRT prescribed. I had a phone appointment, explained my symptoms and they prescribed.
Making someone wait who may have depression is disgusting. Any medication could have started working by the time you get to see anyone .
Makes me so sad and angry
Thanks a mil. I didn’t mention depression when requesting the appointment - I know the receptionists have to be professional but I didn’t want people knowing my business. I’m young-ish - 40 - so that’s why I’m not sure if it’s peri.
 
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Thanks a mil. I didn’t mention depression when requesting the appointment - I know the receptionists have to be professional but I didn’t want people knowing my business. I’m young-ish - 40 - so that’s why I’m not sure if it’s peri.
I was the same, 39/40 and felt my mood improve pretty much instantly when I started on estradiol patches. Call again and ask for a callback to discuss mental health and possible perimenopause. Good luck. Xx
 
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Thanks a mil. I didn’t mention depression when requesting the appointment - I know the receptionists have to be professional but I didn’t want people knowing my business. I’m young-ish - 40 - so that’s why I’m not sure if it’s peri.
I am still having periods. Erratic but still having. Never had a hot flush.
I was diagnosed with depression a year before HRT even though I didn't feel depressed. I just felt not myself, like I was going mental, I couldn't drive my car without anxiety , I forgot things at work I had known for years. My skin was so itchy at night I wanted to grate it off, I put two stone on quickly.
Loads of symptoms that now I know should have been explored as menopausal not depression.
I wrote all my symptoms down before I called even the daft ones ( looking at you crying at a McDonald's advert) 😬
 
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Well after a couple of years of waking up at night I can conclude that the thing that's actually made the biggest difference and made me sleep through the night was not drinking anything after 7pm. I stay in a deeper sleep and then my brain doesn't start whirring....
 
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I'll try that tonight, thanks. I've had weeks of waking up numerous times through the night then shattered before the day starts
 
Sorry if this has been asked before but I'm 46 with lots of peri symptoms including awful heavy periods, migraines and terrible sleep.

I've just had a really positive supportive discussion with a prescribing nurse. She's recommended mirena coil and estrogen but wants to check about the potential of estrogen making migraines worse.

Anyone had this? And any advice re starting HRT? I feel lucky she listened but now I'm a bit panicky and thinking my symptoms aren't that bad!!
 
Well after a couple of years of waking up at night I can conclude that the thing that's actually made the biggest difference and made me sleep through the night was not drinking anything after 7pm. I stay in a deeper sleep and then my brain doesn't start whirring....
I hear this so often, but just can't imagine not drinking anything at all the whole evening! But then I'm sick to death of waking up in the early hours for a wee.

Do you not have a sip of water or anything?
 
Sorry if this has been asked before but I'm 46 with lots of peri symptoms including awful heavy periods, migraines and terrible sleep.

I've just had a really positive supportive discussion with a prescribing nurse. She's recommended mirena coil and estrogen but wants to check about the potential of estrogen making migraines worse.

Anyone had this? And any advice re starting HRT? I feel lucky she listened but now I'm a bit panicky and thinking my symptoms aren't that bad!!
I had terrible migraines, usually with a hot flush, particularly before my period. I started on the patches, 2 weeks oestrogen and 2 weeks oestrogen and progesterone and my migraines have gone in the first two weeks when it is just oestrogen but then comes back with a vengeance for the 2nd 2 weeks. Hope that helps a bit but I think the oestrogen helps my migraines at least
 
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I had terrible migraines, usually with a hot flush, particularly before my period. I started on the patches, 2 weeks oestrogen and 2 weeks oestrogen and progesterone and my migraines have gone in the first two weeks when it is just oestrogen but then comes back with a vengeance for the 2nd 2 weeks. Hope that helps a bit but I think the oestrogen helps my migraines at least
I'm almost convinced it's the reduced oestrogen that's causing my migraines as I've only been having them about 18m and at the time of my cycle that oestrogen is reducing. I was quite surprised that she said my migraines would potentially prevent HRT rather than be a reason to take it
 
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I'm almost convinced it's the reduced oestrogen that's causing my migraines as I've only been having them about 18m and at the time of my cycle that oestrogen is reducing. I was quite surprised that she said my migraines would potentially prevent HRT rather than be a reason to take it
I am convinced that was what was causing my migraines too. I would push back for HRT (unless you have other reasons not to) rather than going for a coil (but I have to say I know nothing about coils!). Can you ask to see a doctor rather than a nurse?
 
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I am convinced that was what was causing my migraines too. I would push back for HRT (unless you have other reasons not to) rather than going for a coil (but I have to say I know nothing about coils!). Can you ask to see a doctor rather than a nurse?
To be fair she was really good and I've seen 4 Doctors who have fobbed me off previously so I'm more than happy with the advice she's given just after a bit of reassurance I think! I think im scared of starting HRT in case I feel worse than I do as my symptoms feel manageable at the moment!
 
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