Perimenopause #4 post your woes

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Wtf is this about and their incessant use of antidepressants as a go-to problem solver?!! Some, if not most of us are not bloody depressed, it's the physical symptoms not the mental side that are wrecking our heads. Arghhh ffs!! I've asked this before but are we allowed recommend people to go to so we're NOT constantly wasting €65 on a dismissive GP?

The lack of joining up the dots would show, that some women are depressed BECAUSE of the physical issue side. Treat the primary cause of those first before resorting to antidepressants. 🥹
I remember incessantly arguing years ago that I’m not feeling ill because I’m depressed, I feel depressed because of how I feel. And it turned out I had virtually no vitamin d so antidepressants weren’t ever going to fix me. They’re a go to for most doctors. How much do they get kicked back on them?
 
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I thought the same myself. Although the male GP who prescribed it in the first place seemed more open to being wrong. The female GPs seem very fixed on the guidance and it not being possible under 45.
She did prescribe the HRT, but only three months worth so I will probably have to go through the same thing again. I could see that she was desperate to give me anti-depressants. She didn’t ask the right questions because she was too busy trying to convince me that I’m depressed and not perimenopausal.
Maybe you should tell her girls are starting their periods earlier and ask why women can’t also start the menopause earlier? And also, guidance is a guide, not an absolute.
 
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It's because they get bonuses for everyone they successfully get on their poison antidepressants, they know once you're on them, you'll most likely never be able to get off, they then have a life long customer! I've just had another failed attempt at coming off the bleeping things, 32 years on that crap, I wish I never took the bastatd things in the first place! 😡😡
 
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In the UK, NHS doctors do not receive direct, per-prescription financial kickbacks or bonuses from pharmaceutical companies for issuing specific antidepressants. Prescribing is entirely based on clinical guidelines.
 
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In the UK, NHS doctors do not receive direct, per-prescription financial kickbacks or bonuses from pharmaceutical companies for issuing specific antidepressants. Prescribing is entirely based on clinical guidelines.
Sort of true but GP surgeries do get incentives for things like administering contraceptive injections and they definitely did per covid jab. I think Statins is another one they get extra money for reaching targets on.
 
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Sort of true but GP surgeries do get incentives for things like administering contraceptive injections and they definitely did per covid jab. I think Statins is another one they get extra money for reaching targets on.
It’s a bit more nuanced than that. GP practices do have NHS performance incentives linked to cardiovascular risk management, including offering statins, but it has to be according to guidelines. It’s the same with contraceptives. And in neither case is it the individual GP that profits as seemed to be alleged.

Additionally, in relation to antidepressants specifically and psychotropic meds in general, the only quality markers by which practices are measured are around care and monitoring when a patient is on these meds, both mental and physiological. Here I think is where practices fail. I’m sure many are on the same SSRI for years if not decades without being adequately reviewed. It’s easier to just routinely represcribe. And the long terms effects on metabolic health and the like often go unnoticed.

That’s what we should be worrying about, not financial incentives.
 
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Yeah I’m not in the US so I’m not going to be ranting about pharmaceutical companies!
I’m more shocked by how anti women’s health these female GPs seem to be. Maybe it’s a power thing, I don’t know. The GP I had as a child was fantastic, but now they don’t give a tit. ‘Do no harm’ doesn’t seem to mean anything.
My prescription wasn’t ready last night and I have an hour to get ready to go out when I finish work at 6. I usually change my patch on Fridays so I think I might be winging it until tomorrow!
 
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Yeah I’m not in the US so I’m not going to be ranting about pharmaceutical companies!
I’m more shocked by how anti women’s health these female GPs seem to be. Maybe it’s a power thing, I don’t know. The GP I had as a child was fantastic, but now they don’t give a tit. ‘Do no harm’ doesn’t seem to mean anything.
My prescription wasn’t ready last night and I have an hour to get ready to go out when I finish work at 6. I usually change my patch on Fridays so I think I might be winging it until tomorrow!
Not to mention the worldwide shortage of oestrogen patches! I bet that never happens with viagra.
 
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Not to mention the worldwide shortage of oestrogen patches! I bet that never happens with viagra.
Maybe it's because all the 'new women' being proscribed them and increasing the demand?
 
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Or demand for HRT has risen sharply as peri/menopause has finally become less neglected, while manufacturers have failed to match demand. Trans women make up .1% of the population, a statistically tiny proportion of oestrogen users compared with menopausal and perimenopausal women.

So no, this is not trans women taking something from women.
 
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Or demand for HRT has risen sharply as peri/menopause has finally become less neglected, while manufacturers have failed to match demand. Trans women make up .1% of the population, a statistically tiny proportion of oestrogen users compared with menopausal and perimenopausal women.

So no, this is not trans women taking something from women.
People that dont need it other than fulfilling a mental illness is taking it from women. 0 1% is still 0.1%
 
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I think the failure to provide adequate healthcare to women is the far bigger problem here.
 
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I feel like my deodorant has stopped working. I normally use an a anti perspiration one . If it is a warm day, or i an exerting myself, my underarms feel sticky and damp by mid afternoon.

I normally use Mitchum roll on. I have tried different ones over the years, and this one has always worked best for me. Any suggestions for something else I can try?
 
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I feel like my deodorant has stopped working. I normally use an a anti perspiration one . If it is a warm day, or i an exerting myself, my underarms feel sticky and damp by mid afternoon.

I normally use Mitchum roll on. I have tried different ones over the years, and this one has always worked best for me. Any suggestions for something else I can try?
Which mitchum do you use? I feel like it stopped working too apart from the no white marks one in particular.

Recently I've been using sure 48h and it seems to work ok
 
I feel like my deodorant has stopped working. I normally use an a anti perspiration one . If it is a warm day, or i an exerting myself, my underarms feel sticky and damp by mid afternoon.

I normally use Mitchum roll on. I have tried different ones over the years, and this one has always worked best for me. Any suggestions for something else I can try?
Ive had the same problem ive been using the vaseline 48 hour protection proderma anti perspiration it seems to be doing the trick.
 
I use the Bionsen it’s aluminium free and does the business. Please if ye can ladies switch to something aluminium free it’s a known hormone disrupter x
 
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Which mitchum do you use? I feel like it stopped working too apart from the no white marks one in particular.

Recently I've been using sure 48h and it seems to work ok
I usually use the 48 hour, but will use whatever they have on offer when I go to buy it.
I use the Bionsen it’s aluminium free and does the business. Please if ye can ladies switch to something aluminium free it’s a known hormone disrupter x
I forgot they were still around. I see if supermarket has them
 
I usually use the 48 hour, but will use whatever they have on offer when I go to buy it.


I forgot they were still around. I see if supermarket has them
Tesco sometimes have them. Boots too. I get mine in an old fashioned rural chemist and they always have the pump bottle Í find that the best but roll on is good too.
 
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I got a bit worried about the aluminium thing in deodorants, as I’d noticed my regular one was working, but not as well.

I’m now making my own using a Nancy Birthwhistle recipe.

Basically fill a small glass or plastic spray bottle with natural distilled witch hazel and perfume it with a few drops of essential oil of your choice. I use rose or lavender. Shake it up. Four sprays in each pit and it keeps me fresh. Been road testing it for 8 weeks now. It’s great. 👍🏻
 
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I've said this on a past thread but I switched to a natural deoderant/non antiperspirant (Wild) several years ago because I felt like I wasn't really sweating but I was really *smelly* in the evenings and my shirts smelled of sweat when I ironed them. I felt a bit weird about using aluminium daily as a woman too, especially as it didn't seem to be helping me!
I am definitely less smelly now than I was when I used strong antiperspirant every day. It's a more natural sweat smell rather than the kind of foul smell I now associate with anti-perspirant.
I have also switched to bar soap for my underarms as shower gel wasn't cleaning thoroughly enough.
A great backup to the natural deo, particularly in the summer, is to use Pixi Glow Tonic or similar before it (and let it dry), to gently exfoliate the underarms, remove any residual deo and kill the odour-causing bacteria that can still hang around after a shower.
The switch to deoderant instead of antiperspirant is a bit icky at first as it takes a few days for your body to adjust but I'm glad I pushed through and I've never looked back.
 
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