Oh for sure. Remember that horrible cover of a lads mag (Loaded or Nuts???) that had Helena on it with the strapline something like 'who would leave her for Paula Yates?'
I didn't remember her wedding at all but you were right, she looked beautiful, truly happy.... so sad
I know some families that have got past social services so many times. Many social workers are absolutely crap sadly.It’s so odd isn’t it how he just left the baby with her? I know this just repeating previous threads but it is still soo odd. I mean they must have thought she was ‘ok’ to care for him she probably put on a front and that was that. I’ve worked closely with addicts and some go to great lengths to prove that they are ‘ok’ to cope with their children. It’s so sad to think that baby boy was left by himself for all that time. I hope they are both doing well. I think it’s good that for the most part the media have left them well alone.
Been a social worker you can usually see straight through though…
Well given there was cameras and security and an inquest and investigation, and she had purchased heroin with a much higher toxicity than she was used to, I find that highly unlikely, much as it’s a great story. The social worker dad drove Phaedra back to the house the day before and Tom was elsewhere. They were both posting on social media. Peaches was posting weird shit to do with Elliot Smith continually that night before she died.
and Madonna had her lady of the manor phase. Which seems extra bizarre now when you look at her current guise!
This is what I don’t understand. Why leave your heroin addicted wife alone with a little baby? Maybe he thought the presence of the baby would stop her using? I’m still baffled by it. Phaedra could have died too.
Mandy Smith is about 5 years older than me and I was sickened by the thought of marrying someone his age. He looked like a corpse. Even in recent years we had that fucking blobby pig Chris Moyles counting down to Charlotte Church reaching 16. I wonder if all the men that cheered him on would find that as funny if it were their daughter.God, yes. Also the Mandy Smith/Bill Wyman debacle. She was 16, he was 50 but it seemed to have started three years earlier
Actually hilarious, so not only did her sister supposedly happily take the fact he killed her, then another person seeing him was perfectly fine with him being a sinister murderer and looking after infant children. And a whole family did not want justice, they decided it was for the best. Aside from this, Peaches had a long history of drug use and to my knowledge, Tom was nothing like this, and to randomly suggest he turned up at the house with Astala to find Phaedra alone with his dead mother so he just injected her a bit more is beyond ludicrous. And the fact she was alone and posting the night before and his account of giving the boys yoghurts for lunch after he found her because he didn’t know what else to do while he waited. It’s actually really awful to have such bollocks printed when what they went through must’ve been actually horrific. His finding her dead, his baby luckily, seemingly unharmed despite the hazards and drugs, and his other child with him. It’s just so awful.
I didn’t have children because I didn’t want to have them unless I was in a healthy relationship because of all the abuse and violence I was subjected and exposed to by my narcissistic mother. I found it hard to find a healthy relationship because being raised by a narcissist leaves you with so much self doubt that perpetrators can spot your vulnerabilities from a mile away. The fact that the 3 surviving girls appear to have happy lives and successful relationships leads me think that they definitely had an adult in their life who was a consistent, supportive, positive role model (probably Anita the Nanny) and they have accessed therapeutic support to process their trauma.
Those poor, poor men eh? I mean she was half their age but of course she was a ‘flighty peroxide’ shrew who Bob and Michael just couldn’t get away from.
Exactly that!
If he didn’t want to father children, he should have double wrapped. 21 is young, sure, but he wasn’t an innocent boy, being led astray by a beguiling woman. After the first child was born, he should have made sure there wasn’t a second child.My hunch, knowing nothing about Tom except how young he was, is that Peaches was the boss and he was along for the ride. I don’t think either of the pregnancies were planned and can’t imagine that he particularly wanted to be a father at that age, but what was done was done. I’m sure he loved Peaches and was happy to marry into the family () but there’s no way that marriage and two babies was his life plan at 21.
Bearing that in mind, I’m not surprised he handed the baby over despite any concerns he may have had about her using again. I think he was too young and naive and did as he was told.
Oh FFS that’s just so petty to comment something like that.
Hmm as a parent of a child with a massive drug problem you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t, I would not be judging his parenting on that personally.
