Probably a major factor in Fifi choosing to not have children. She stated she would never because of the harm parents can do to them (essentially-I can’t remember her exact words but that’s what I interpreted)I also noted that Bob’s Mum died when she was 41, same age as Paula when she died. He was 6 when his mum died, so he obviously had experience of the loss of a parent at a young age to share with Tiger Lily and Peaches two sons
It allegedly was really bad, her mum had no time for her and left, she was vain and self obsessed (remind you of anyone) and her dad was bipolar and nasty and cruel to her. She was very dysfunctional. She also conned herself (and tried to make everyone else believe it) into thinking she was better than her parents were by having this Earth mother aesthetic, when it wasn’t really trueI don't know much about Paula's childhood was it THAT bad? In the doc she appeared to have adored the guy who brought her up Jess Yates. He had a mental illness but she seemed to o get on well with him. I know folk who have had horrific childhoods but choose not to inflict the same on their own kids. I agree one kid was more than enough for her. She probably had Tiger to try and keep MH or have some kind of permanent contact with him through the baby. Why on earth did she give her kids such stupid names?
The thing here is if they had an open marriage, the kids probably didn’t know or were exposed to it. What happens on tour or a night out in a consensual open marriage doesn’t have to be toxic or damaging to kids, as they shouldn’t know about it. This all came crashing down when tabloids began to gossip about PY and MH and according to Gerry, the kids told Bob that MH was in mummy’s bed whilst they were in the house. Very suddenly everything unraveled very quickly and it was extremely traumatic for the kidsBob cheated on Paula too though didn’t he? He just never left the marriage, unlike Paula.
Also, I don’t think it was just for Paula’s ego that she didn’t want everyone to think Michael died by suicide, she didn’t want Tiger Lily to think her dad didn’t love her enough to carry on living.
I agree. It was so twisted of Paula to prefer the idea that Michael died in such a grubby, sordid way. But she would rather have believed anything rather than suicide.By making out his death was a ritualistic sex experiment gone wrong? I think that was extremely disrespectful of Paula and had nothing to do with her caring for her daughters feelings.
I always thought it was terrible that she was adamant it an auto erotic accident. That just makes him out to be some sexual weirdo! It must have been incredibly difficult for his friends and family her insisting this! It was considered at the autopsy and then firmly dismissed!Paula was never on my radar, I was too young at her height of fame, but from everything I have read about her this is what shines through. She was incredibly selfish, which is fine, some people are just wired that way but selfish people shouldn't have children or at least keep having children. She choose to have 4 that she didn't seem to have any interest in mothering properly.
I do feel like she looked on MH as a prize and I feel her inability to accept his suicide (which is what his death is reported as in every article I read and even in the 2019 Mystify documentary) seems more about her bruised ego than anything else. Which is just horrific to me, that she tried to change the narrative of his death to make herself feel better
She obviously had a shit childhood but she then went on to do the same to her daughters. Poor Peaches never had a chance.
I didn’t have children because I didn’t want to have them unless I was in a healthy relationship because of all the abuse and violence I was subjected and exposed to by my narcissistic mother. I found it hard to find a healthy relationship because being raised by a narcissist leaves you with so much self doubt that perpetrators can spot your vulnerabilities from a mile away. The fact that the 3 surviving girls appear to have happy lives and successful relationships leads me think that they definitely had an adult in their life who was a consistent, supportive, positive role model (probably Anita the Nanny) and they have accessed therapeutic support to process their trauma.Probably a major factor in Fifi choosing to not have children. She stated she would never because of the harm parents can do to them (essentially-I can’t remember her exact words but that’s what I interpreted)
Can you start a Bono threadsounds fascinating
Hehehe, not taking as a dig at all! But maybe that thread should be renamed ‘Conspiracy FACTS’ if we’re going to start talking about Bono.I don’t mean this as a dig, but there’s a conspiracy theories thread on here where I’m sure a lot of people would be interested in that conversation.
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To keep it on topic, I didn’t realise Paula Yates wrote that many books!
Michael didn’t leave a note and on that autopsy documentary, the coroner said this isn’t unusual and that a lot of people don’t leave a note! If you watch it, he was absolutely desperate that night. He had received a phone call to say that Tarentino was not going to be using him in a discussed project and then he got a call of Paula and then rang Bob absolutely furious. He drank, took drugs and got more and more agitated. It’s a really interesting watch but incredibly sad! I don’t think he was a way out at the time!I agree. It was so twisted of Paula to prefer the idea that Michael died in such a grubby, sordid way. But she would rather have believed anything rather than suicide.
I know in the U.K., coroners are quite reluctant to rule a death as suicide without concrete proof, such as a note. I think it boils down to some quite old fashioned ideas about suicide being taboo and shameful for the family. That’s why deaths that seem to be quite obvious suicides as ruled as accident or misadventure if there is no note.
I wonder if inquests in Australia follow similar rules? I don’t remember anything about Michael leaving a note?
This is a gossip site so you may as well talk more about it.Hehehe, not taking as a dig at all! But maybe that thread should be renamed ‘Conspiracy FACTS’ if we’re going to start talking about Bono.
There was definitely a Bob-Bono-Michael connection. You won’t find one Irish person that will speak of it though.
That video seemed pretty genuine and quite sad.I'm intrigued on Bono, is there tea?
Someone mentioned Bob Geldof's mental health above. Was Bob Geldof known to have struggles with his mental health, even before the grief and trauma associated with his family losses?
Nope. It veers into a complicated global political spider web, and Tattle, I’ve learnt, is not the best place for that sort of content given its strict rules and having to tip toe around and “not hurt people’s feelings” an all that. Not blaming Tattle in slightest, those are their rules and so be it.This is a gossip site so you may as well talk more about it.
Pete you make me laugh always! Hey, be nice to the Illuminati otherwise they’ll lock you up forever in your 15 minute cityShame, I was dying to hear about Bono's role in the Illuminati
As to you won't hear one Irish person speak about it, well every single Irish person must know about Bono and Andrea Corr by now, including my 86 year old gran.
Lol I wasn’t complaining about the conversation on MH at all but when discussing his death (as I had known little about it as was far more Peaches/Fifi follower) the conversation did go around his death and I found that fascinating (suicide or accidental death) but some one said was off topic and I just commented that for me, joining the thread that MH could be called off topic… but if he’s on topic surely a few comments around his death are ok? But I got an eye roll and someone said it was off topic….Pete you make me laugh always! Hey, be nice to the Illuminati otherwise they’ll lock you up forever in your 15 minute city
Btw before any accusation of derailingI was the one who contribute a fair bit to Peaches gossip at the beginning of all these threads, to point where the kind lady who started the threads changed the name to Peaches and the Geldofs because we realised there was non stop fascination with the whole entire family, and yes, of course that includes Michael for whoever said it didn’t or shouldn’t.
Yes, I knew about Andrea Corr haha and so does my Irish nan tooThat‘s idle gossip, not the same category as people “hanging themselves”.
Blimey she sounds even worse than I had thought.I don’t think Paula was a good mum, she probably wanted to be one hence the books and fake family life. Some tea, my Godfather knew her slightly and couldn’t stand her. I have put this on another thread some time ago but couldn’t find it different name. This was in the 80s my godfather was good friends with John Galliano who was seeing Jasper Conran and they were in his company I think it was his studio and they heard a lot of noise and a child screeching mucking around then they heard a woman screaming and shouting swearing and a really hard slap the sort that echos around a room. He said he and John were doing all those OMG faces and sniggering about it being young - then Paula Yates came into view with one of her girls. But he said it occurred to him much later in life that the little girl hadn’t cried despite that slap must have really hurt. Imagine hitting a child like that all the time painting a picture of domestic bliss.
he also said he’d heard that Paula didn’t like Peaches and never took to her and was always very hard on her she sacked a nanny that Peaches loved and slept with.
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