If I remember correctly I think she said she was maybe in slow labourDoes everyone remember that she filmed herself in labour all strapped up with monitors and posted it on insta with Raven? Did she do anything similar with Ember?
I nearly fell asleep reading it. It reads like someone whose had to write a few paragraphs for homework and left it till the last minute.Even the birth story isn't loving and references Raven more than Ember
Exactly! She’s so desperate to nail gentle parenting, to nail attachment parenting, to do “natural term” breastfeeding and now she’s fucked. She now feels like she can’t backtrack because it’s central to her identity. It’s in her Instagram bio FFS.By labelling her parenting style and trying to define every single aspect of her parenting choice, she has boxed herself into a situation that she cannot get out of because she has not allowed herself the flexibility that comes with actually raising a child(ren).
I would put money on Ember being the one that actually starts the night with Dean but she knows everyone would (rightly) judge her for saying that.She really is special...
She hasn't boxed herself in with the term at all,theres nothing wrong with the label she's giving the parenting styleBy labelling her parenting style and trying to define every single aspect of her parenting choice, she has boxed herself into a situation that she cannot get out of because she has not allowed herself the flexibility that comes with actually raising a child(ren).
Our hypothetical, fantasy children are SO well behaved aren't they. Our made up scenarios all work out perfectly and put other non-worthy parents to shame. Then you actually give birth to them and it all goes out of the window because children are human beings with free will!
Not all parenting tactics will work for your child/family/lifestyle. You have your principles/values/rules that are important but for a lot of it, you are flying by the seat of your pants!
I wish this was explained to parents more, then there wouldn't be half as much stress and guilt.
The fact she will not listen to those around her, including her husband and children's father by the sounds of it, is disturbing.
She thinks she’s right. She knows she’s struggling, but she doesn’t want to change or adapt anything because that’s what her plan was and she wants to stick to it. She also doesn’t want to upset R by changing anything for her. Stubborn stubborn stubborn. Not willing to say “I got it wrong” which to me is really a important trait to show your children. Admitting when you’re wrong and then changing things accordingly.@sunchaser19
If you are comfortable to say, I know you don’t want to compromise your friend too much - with what you know about Nicola, why do you think she won’t seek help when she’s so clearly struggling with a mental illness?
I’ve suffered PND and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. Do the people in her life see that she needs some help? Have they tried to tell her so?
Making a rod for her own back. I am very unsympathetic if she is refusing help if it’s been offered in abundance. Her way or no way it seems. Can she not see that R will still love her if she refuses her things? Can she not see that R will still love her if she accepts help? It’s as though she’s scared of changing anything to do with R even if that means her relationship with husband and newborn baby daughter suffers. She is going to end up being a very lonely person.She thinks she’s right. She knows she’s struggling, but she doesn’t want to change or adapt anything because that’s what her plan was and she wants to stick to it. She also doesn’t want to upset R by changing anything for her. Stubborn stubborn stubborn. Not willing to say “I got it wrong” which to me is really a important trait to show your children. Admitting when you’re wrong and then changing things accordingly.
From what I know everyone close to her has tried/offered to help. Constantly offer advice and tell her she needs to look after herself more. She brushes it off. If family and friends try and be a bit firmer (not sure that’s the right word perhaps) she backs off and doesn’t talk to them. So they have to tread on egg shells round her all the time.
While I agree that how we parent our children in the early stages matters (what moron would think that it didn’t, surely just common sense) other than that these posts seem full of the same bullshit as Pea. They’re so blind to the fact that not all mothers can breast feed. I physically do not produce milk, what would they have me do? Not have children? Fuck them. I think people that need to lead and moulded so heavily in life perhaps shouldn’t have children.I was looking through her old photos and found something interesting. Raven has a cousin almost the same age as her. There is a photo of the two babies with a caption about how they're going to have so much fun together. The SIL still follows P, P doesn't follow back. No reference to each other in years. Perhaps P was triggered by some parenting choice and tried to passive aggressively gift a Sarah bullshit Smith book?
Two recent Insta likes - a post offended by a bottle brand talking about BF (because God forbid a baby have a bottle?), the second one speaks for itself I think!
I notice you mention her sister in law but she also used to be really close to her brother. He’s a nice guy too. It’s been a long time (even pre-covid) since we’ve seen any posts or stories with him in too.While I agree that how we parent our children in the early stages matters (what moron would think that it didn’t, surely just common sense) other than that these posts seem full of the same bullshit as Pea. They’re so blind to the fact that not all mothers can breast feed. I physically do not produce milk, what would they have me do? Not have children? Fuck them. I think people that need to lead and moulded so heavily in life perhaps shouldn’t have children.
@sunchaser19 do you know anything about this?While I agree that how we parent our children in the early stages matters (what moron would think that it didn’t, surely just common sense) other than that these posts seem full of the same bullshit as Pea. They’re so blind to the fact that not all mothers can breast feed. I physically do not produce milk, what would they have me do? Not have children? Fuck them. I think people that need to lead and moulded so heavily in life perhaps shouldn’t have children.
I notice you mention her sister in law but she also used to be really close to her brother. He’s a nice guy too. It’s been a long time (even pre-covid) since we’ve seen any posts or stories with him in too.
Did she not say she was considering expressing a bottle for Ember so grandma or Dean could feed her now and then? Where exactly does she think that milk will be fed from? An organic wooden bottle made by trees that were planted by gentle mothers?!Two recent Insta likes - a post offended by a bottle brand talking about BF (because God forbid a baby have a bottle?)
A wooden bottle made me think of ShrekDid she not say she was considering expressing a bottle for Ember so grandma or Dean could feed her now and then? Where exactly does she think that milk will be fed from? An organic wooden bottle made by trees that were planted by gentle mothers?!
I’ve not heard anything at all about brother! Nothing has been saidWhile I agree that how we parent our children in the early stages matters (what moron would think that it didn’t, surely just common sense) other than that these posts seem full of the same bullshit as Pea. They’re so blind to the fact that not all mothers can breast feed. I physically do not produce milk, what would they have me do? Not have children? Fuck them. I think people that need to lead and moulded so heavily in life perhaps shouldn’t have children.
I notice you mention her sister in law but she also used to be really close to her brother. He’s a nice guy too. It’s been a long time (even pre-covid) since we’ve seen any posts or stories with him in too.
@sunchaser19 do you know anything about this?
ThanksI’ve not heard anything at all about brother! Nothing has been said. I know she’s lost a few friendships over the last 2-3 years because she’s very 1 sided. The friendship relies on the other person making the effort, not her. As you all know she rubbed someone at work up the wrong way with her Facebook post about schools. Oh and it hasn’t gone unnoticed at work that her Instagram is open with her nipples out constantly either. Think they’ve had words there. But she’s still open and still getting her boobs out every day, so she hasn’t listened to them ..... shock horror!!
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