Veronica Lake was one of the Golden Age stars I thought was incredibly beautiful but she lived a troubled life and died quite young, after years of chaotic drama.
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Jean Harlow was another poor soul.
I'd love to read Mommie dearest, the biography written by Joan Crawford's daughter. They made a film out of the book, with Faye Dunaway as Joan Crawford. The irony is there are rumours that Faye Dunaway isn't exactly sweetness and light. Some good casting there then!
Her husband had a teeny peeny.
He thought she was mocking him about it and kicked her viciously in the stomach.
She suffered internal injuries because of his attack but that wasn't known until she died shortly afterward. She just gritted her teeth and carried on.
Her mother was a 'Christian Science' follower and refused medical treatment for Jean when she became ill and subsequently died.
Also rumours that Joan's daughter wasn't a very nice person ether. So the book is a bit of kettle calling pot black, allegedly.
Frank Sinatra allegedly had a HUGE willy.
Ava allegedly found him a bore and much preferred Spanish men. She had a taste for a famous Matador in particular.
Frank was once found with his head in a gas oven because he was heartbroken that Ava didn't want him anymore.
Lana Turner had a violent husband [Johnny Stompanato] and he was stabbed to death in their home.
Lana's daughter confessed to killing him, but many people believed it was Lana who was guilty. Protecting her daughter from him.
These are all from memory, by the way.
My fave stories.
Oh yes and the rumour about Kirk Douglas was allegedly started by someone trying to discredit him.
Lots of people in Hollywood were blacklisted by the House of Un-American Activities Committee. They were accused of being Communists. Some were.
Most weren't.
There followed a long period of unemployment for hundreds of talented people.
By this time, Kirk Douglas had risen up the pecking order [when he was a budding actor, he was starving and living on the breadline and the young Lauren Bacall bought him a warm winter coat out of her wages earned from modelling.]
He never forgot his impoverished beginnings and discreetly helped a lot of blacklisted people by giving them money.
He also had some clout in the studio system and could pick writers/directors. Even though he could have been blacklisted himself for aiding and abetting [suspected] Comminists, he gave them work on his movies under assumed names until their names were cleared.
Same with Frank Sinatra. He had this bad guy image, but he discreetly paid thousands of dollars over the years to pay the medical bills of other actors/actresses who had fallen on hard times.
My favourite Old Hollywood story is one I use whenever anyone I know is feeling depressed or suicidal.
I use it to try and make them understand that the depression will pass and that the situation will get better.
There was a young actress named Peg Entwhistle. She was British and had enjoyed some success on a small scale and went over to Hollywood to try her hand at making the big-time.
She had little success, and after a while of trying to get movie work, her money was running out.
The chance of a major role came her way. Finally, her Agent got her an audition for a part in a movie that would change her life.
Days passed.
No call from the Agent about the audition and no other work came her way.
She waited and waited. No call came.
She felt desperate.
She felt like a failure.
She couldn't afford to go home to England.
And she couldn't see any way out of her situation.
She made her way up to the famous Hollywood sign in the hills and jumped to her death.
Her Agent was calling and calling her phone to tell her she had been given the movie role.
So, no matter how bad things appear, just be patient, don't do a Peg Entwhistle.
It will get better.
A great story for everyone who is interested in Old Hollywood is the ongoing feud between Joan Fontaine and Olivia De Havilland.
Talk about competitive siblings!!!!!
Their strained relationship is on a par with Bette Davis and Joan Crawford.
Makes for great reading.
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Sinatra paid all of Sammy Davis Jr. medical bills and paid for the funeral, as Sammy had lost all his money. Apparently, he also supported Sammy's widow financially.
I know which school you mean - the campus looks so picturesque. I've always wanted to visit that part of the world!
Recently though there has been allegations that Clark gable raped Loretta young from what i have read she felt humiliated because of this?Old Hollywood scandals are my jam, I love them. So many stories you think are too weird and incredible to true, yet they actually are true!
One of my favourites coming to mind is the story of Clark Gable and Loretta Young's baby. They had an onset affair (I think he was married at the time, if memory serves), she got pregnant but as a staunch Catholic she didn't want to have an abortion and didn't want to give the child up for adoption either. She left Hollywood for a few months and came back with this tall tale about adopting two infants, but one of the adoptions fell through, so she was just left with little baby Judy. I don't think any Hollywood insiders really believed her, and Judy was teased at school about Gable being her father. She met him twice growing up, but it wasn't until he'd died and she was getting married that Loretta told her the whole truth
One of many he paid for.
Like George Michael, Sinatra was discreet about his generosity and the truth came out after he'd died and the people who benefited from it made it public.
A very good article, old Hollywood was sure full of scandal. I always thought Natalie Wood's death was really sad. Here's an interestng article about her death saying it's not an accident. I am not saying Wagner did it, or not - it makes interesting reading, though!Inspired by this article I read recently:
The Biggest Scandals Of Old Hollywood
Elizabeth Taylor Had An Affair With Debbie Reynolds’ Husband The media labeled Elizabeth Taylor a “homewrecker” when she started dating her close friend Debbie Reynolds’ husband, Eddie Fisher, shortly after her own third husband, Mike Todd, died in a plane crash. “I was the last to find out...www.thedelite.com
Old Hollywood was so messed up and there are so many bizarre and scary rumours and stories.
All the stars being fuelled on pep pills to keep up with the gruelling schedules, affairs, abuse, potential murders, the list goes on.
Please discuss...
“Natalie Wood’s Drowning Was Not an Accident”: A New Book’s Shocking Findings
An exclusive excerpt from Natalie Wood, Suzanne Finstad’s definitive biography—which contains new details about Wood’s mysterious death.
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Re: Jean Harlow
The stories of Paul Bern beating her and his micro willy are certainly imbedded in legend. There has been a good case for Paul Bern’s common law wife (very pre Harlow) Dorothy Millette shooting him and then ending her own life a few days later. A recommended read would be Samuel Marx and Joyce Vanderveen’s Deadly Illusions. Samuel
Marx was friends with Jean and Paul and conducted his own very intense investigation similar to King Vidor’s investigation of William Desmond Taylor’s death.
There is speculation that Harlow’s bout with scarlet fever in her teens may have been followed by poststreptococcal glomerulonephritis. Left
this could have led to her weakened and unable to survive her later medical issues.
Two excellent biographies to track down are David Stern’s Bombshell and Eve Golden’s Platinum Girl.
I’ve also read Irving Shulman’s Harlow but that is a hatchet job and a half. Fun note about the Shulman biography? Same publisher as Jacqueline Susann’s Valley of the Dolls.
One Harlow book I would love to get my hands on is Jean Harlow’s posthumously published novel Today Is Tonight. It’s expensive (roughly $150-$200USD) and frankly don’t think the husband would like it if I bought a book from the 1960s vs his Rx.
The stories of Paul Bern beating her and his micro willy are certainly imbedded in legend. There has been a good case for Paul Bern’s common law wife (very pre Harlow) Dorothy Millette shooting him and then ending her own life a few days later. A recommended read would be Samuel Marx and Joyce Vanderveen’s Deadly Illusions. Samuel
Marx was friends with Jean and Paul and conducted his own very intense investigation similar to King Vidor’s investigation of William Desmond Taylor’s death.
There is speculation that Harlow’s bout with scarlet fever in her teens may have been followed by poststreptococcal glomerulonephritis. Left
this could have led to her weakened and unable to survive her later medical issues.
Two excellent biographies to track down are David Stern’s Bombshell and Eve Golden’s Platinum Girl.
I’ve also read Irving Shulman’s Harlow but that is a hatchet job and a half. Fun note about the Shulman biography? Same publisher as Jacqueline Susann’s Valley of the Dolls.
One Harlow book I would love to get my hands on is Jean Harlow’s posthumously published novel Today Is Tonight. It’s expensive (roughly $150-$200USD) and frankly don’t think the husband would like it if I bought a book from the 1960s vs his Rx.
That bit of Route 10 is so lovely! Miss Porter’s, old churches, the original town library, the houses are classic New England. Much too posh for my wallet-the cost of living here in my bit of world is very high sadly.
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Surprised Marilyn Monroe hasn’t been brought up yet. Any thoughts on her mysterious death?
I think it was accidental death. She had taken possession of tablets from two doctors, without the other knowing. It was covered up by one of the doctors (who could have been struck off) and the housekeeper who was supposed to keep an eye on Marilyn. It's all BS about Bobby Kennedy, there is no evidence that he had an affair with her (unlike his brother).
What a great idea for a thread! If you look on C5, there are a series of programmes called Autopsy, then they investigate a famous person’s death, and Marilyn is one of the stars they cover. It comes to the same conclusion as above.
Hmm Frank Sinatra may have helped his mate out but I don't think he was a "nice guy". Sounds like he had an extremely violent temper abs was controlling with women including that odd relationship he had with a very young Mia Farrow.
Not sure if anyone remembers an actress from the 30's named Thelma Todd. She was famous as a comedic actress, who'd starred in 'Monkey Business' and 'Horse Feathers' with the Marx Brothers. She'd also been part of an attempt to make a female version of Laurel and Hardy with another actress, ZaSu Pitts. Overall, she was one of Old Hollywood's brightest comedy stars.
Her personal life was......um....colourful. She'd been in a relationship with a man named Roland West, a director. They'd worked together on a movie, 'Corsair', in 1931. Allegedly, the relationship was volatile, with allegations of Roland being possessive and controlling. Her ex husband was Pat Di Ciccio, who was an agent, but also had links to mobster and was violent to Thelma. She divorced him after one beating too many.
Then there was the infamous Lucky Luciano, the mobster. That relationship involved beatings and Lucky getting her hooked on amphetamines. He wanted to open a casino in the rooms over her successful restaurant, 'Thelma Todd's Sidewalk Café'. Thelma was having none of it.
I've taken the next section from the fabulous 'Find A Death' directory(run by Graham Norton's ex, Scott Michaels):
'On Saturday, December 14th 1935, Thelma was driven to a party, at which she was guest-of-honor at the Cafe Trocadero at 8610 Sunset Blvd. You can still (apparently) see the three entrance steps at the south-east corner of Sunset Blvd and Sunset Plaza. Roland West had told her to be in by 2 am or he would lock her out. The hosts were British music-hall comedian, Stanley Lupino, and his actress daughter, Ida, a close friend, who had agreed to a request by DiCicco that he be seated next Thelma at dinner.
[N.B.: From now on no two accounts agree on exact times].
DiCicco, however, arrived with actress, Margaret Lindsay, as his date and joined another group instead, leading to a brief spat in which Thelma accused DiCicco of deliberately humiliating her. Just after midnight, DiCicco made a phone call from the lobby and left an hour later with Lindsay. Thelma proceeded to get drunk, and confided to Ida that she was seeing a wealthy San Francisco businessman.
As promised, West locked the door to the apartment at 2 am. Thelma left the Cafe Trocadero about forty-five minutes later, promising to see the guests at a party later that afternoon at the home of Mrs Wallace Reid. She was driven away by chauffeur, Ernest Peters, in a Lincoln Phaeton touring car. They arrived at the doors of the Sidewalk Cafe between 3.15 am and 3.30, depending on accounts, and Thelma refused Peters’ usual service of walking her up the steps that led to the apartment entrance.
Some accounts have Peters seeing a brown Packard with its lights off, parked or approaching, before he left.
West claimed that during the early hours of the morning he heard water running in the apartment, but later said that it might have just been the coolers in the bar below.
At 9.30 a.m. a druggist claims that Thelma came in and asked him to make a call for her but that she then disappeared. That afternoon, several witnesses claimed to have seen her driving with a dark-haired man. Mrs. Wallace Reid claims that at around 4.30 pm, Thelma called her, using the nickname ‘Hot Toddy’ that she herself had coined, apologizing for being late but promising to surprise her with a mystery guest.
In the morning of Monday, 16th December the maid, May Whitehead, came to clean the apartment above the Café. At 10:30 am she climbed the staircase to the garage, where she found Thelma slumped dead at the wheel of her Packard convertible.
The ignition was on, but the engine not running (the car was not “still spewing a noxious fog of carbon monoxide” as some accounts relate) and the door of the garage had been partially open. There were two gallons of fuel inside the car, and a smudged handprint on the door. She was only 29.
Thelma was still gussied up in her Saturday night outfit of silk and tulle dress, mink coat and diamond jewelry. Her high-heeled sandals were perfectly clean, although when a policewoman of similar build later attempted to climb the steps up from the Highway, her sandals were dirty. Her lip was bruised, her face streaked with blood, her nose broken and a dental filling dislodged, but her make-up, unsmudged. Her fingernails were undamaged, indicating a lack of struggle. Her blood revealed a level of alcohol inconsistent with her having been able to do much at all. One account says a .13 blood alcohol reading, and a 75-80% carbon monoxide saturation. There were beans and peas in her stomach, although none had been served at Ida Lupino’s dinner.
L.A. County Surgeon fixed the time of death at between 5 and 8 am on Sunday morning, and explained the blood by suggesting that Thelma had struck the wheel with her head. The inquest threw up a number of theories. One, because she was locked out, Thelma had turned on the engine to keep warm and fallen asleep; however, maid May Whitehead stated that she had given Thelma her key and it had been found in her handbag. West stated that frequently Thelma had woken him up by throwing stones or smashing a window, and after all, the door was open. Another, having decided to go out again, she turned on the motor, passed out, and suffocated. The Cashier at the café slept in a room above the garage and had heard nothing. The Coroner’s report runs to over 100 pages.'
Surprisingly, given Thelma's injuries, a verdict of suicide was returned, and the case was closed. There are several suspects, but all are now dead.
They were:
Roland West, Thelma's ex
Pat Di Ciccio, Thelma's ex husband
Jewel Carmen, Roland West's ex wife and part owner of Thelma's restaurant
Lucky Luciano, her lover at the time she died..........
And then there's Stan Laurel. But that's a whole other post.
Her personal life was......um....colourful. She'd been in a relationship with a man named Roland West, a director. They'd worked together on a movie, 'Corsair', in 1931. Allegedly, the relationship was volatile, with allegations of Roland being possessive and controlling. Her ex husband was Pat Di Ciccio, who was an agent, but also had links to mobster and was violent to Thelma. She divorced him after one beating too many.
Then there was the infamous Lucky Luciano, the mobster. That relationship involved beatings and Lucky getting her hooked on amphetamines. He wanted to open a casino in the rooms over her successful restaurant, 'Thelma Todd's Sidewalk Café'. Thelma was having none of it.
I've taken the next section from the fabulous 'Find A Death' directory(run by Graham Norton's ex, Scott Michaels):
'On Saturday, December 14th 1935, Thelma was driven to a party, at which she was guest-of-honor at the Cafe Trocadero at 8610 Sunset Blvd. You can still (apparently) see the three entrance steps at the south-east corner of Sunset Blvd and Sunset Plaza. Roland West had told her to be in by 2 am or he would lock her out. The hosts were British music-hall comedian, Stanley Lupino, and his actress daughter, Ida, a close friend, who had agreed to a request by DiCicco that he be seated next Thelma at dinner.
[N.B.: From now on no two accounts agree on exact times].
DiCicco, however, arrived with actress, Margaret Lindsay, as his date and joined another group instead, leading to a brief spat in which Thelma accused DiCicco of deliberately humiliating her. Just after midnight, DiCicco made a phone call from the lobby and left an hour later with Lindsay. Thelma proceeded to get drunk, and confided to Ida that she was seeing a wealthy San Francisco businessman.
As promised, West locked the door to the apartment at 2 am. Thelma left the Cafe Trocadero about forty-five minutes later, promising to see the guests at a party later that afternoon at the home of Mrs Wallace Reid. She was driven away by chauffeur, Ernest Peters, in a Lincoln Phaeton touring car. They arrived at the doors of the Sidewalk Cafe between 3.15 am and 3.30, depending on accounts, and Thelma refused Peters’ usual service of walking her up the steps that led to the apartment entrance.
Some accounts have Peters seeing a brown Packard with its lights off, parked or approaching, before he left.
West claimed that during the early hours of the morning he heard water running in the apartment, but later said that it might have just been the coolers in the bar below.
At 9.30 a.m. a druggist claims that Thelma came in and asked him to make a call for her but that she then disappeared. That afternoon, several witnesses claimed to have seen her driving with a dark-haired man. Mrs. Wallace Reid claims that at around 4.30 pm, Thelma called her, using the nickname ‘Hot Toddy’ that she herself had coined, apologizing for being late but promising to surprise her with a mystery guest.
In the morning of Monday, 16th December the maid, May Whitehead, came to clean the apartment above the Café. At 10:30 am she climbed the staircase to the garage, where she found Thelma slumped dead at the wheel of her Packard convertible.
The ignition was on, but the engine not running (the car was not “still spewing a noxious fog of carbon monoxide” as some accounts relate) and the door of the garage had been partially open. There were two gallons of fuel inside the car, and a smudged handprint on the door. She was only 29.
Thelma was still gussied up in her Saturday night outfit of silk and tulle dress, mink coat and diamond jewelry. Her high-heeled sandals were perfectly clean, although when a policewoman of similar build later attempted to climb the steps up from the Highway, her sandals were dirty. Her lip was bruised, her face streaked with blood, her nose broken and a dental filling dislodged, but her make-up, unsmudged. Her fingernails were undamaged, indicating a lack of struggle. Her blood revealed a level of alcohol inconsistent with her having been able to do much at all. One account says a .13 blood alcohol reading, and a 75-80% carbon monoxide saturation. There were beans and peas in her stomach, although none had been served at Ida Lupino’s dinner.
L.A. County Surgeon fixed the time of death at between 5 and 8 am on Sunday morning, and explained the blood by suggesting that Thelma had struck the wheel with her head. The inquest threw up a number of theories. One, because she was locked out, Thelma had turned on the engine to keep warm and fallen asleep; however, maid May Whitehead stated that she had given Thelma her key and it had been found in her handbag. West stated that frequently Thelma had woken him up by throwing stones or smashing a window, and after all, the door was open. Another, having decided to go out again, she turned on the motor, passed out, and suffocated. The Cashier at the café slept in a room above the garage and had heard nothing. The Coroner’s report runs to over 100 pages.'
Surprisingly, given Thelma's injuries, a verdict of suicide was returned, and the case was closed. There are several suspects, but all are now dead.
They were:
Roland West, Thelma's ex
Pat Di Ciccio, Thelma's ex husband
Jewel Carmen, Roland West's ex wife and part owner of Thelma's restaurant
Lucky Luciano, her lover at the time she died..........
And then there's Stan Laurel. But that's a whole other post.
Thelma Todd - Celebrity Deaths: Findadeath
Pictures and information related to the deceased Thelma Todd. Dearly Departed Tours and Celebrity Deaths: Findadeath.
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This is brilliant thread.
This is another sad story Frances Farmer.
www.historylink.org
This is another sad story Frances Farmer.
Farmer, Frances (1913-1970)
Seattle-born actress Frances Farmer, a rising star in the 1930s, is remembered today more for her unfortunate life story than for her once promising career. Talented and beautiful, Farmer was also wi
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Tell me more about the Stan Laurel thing!Not sure if anyone remembers an actress from the 30's named Thelma Todd. She was famous as a comedic actress, who'd starred in 'Monkey Business' and 'Horse Feathers' with the Marx Brothers. She'd also been part of an attempt to make a female version of Laurel and Hardy with another actress, ZaSu Pitts. Overall, she was one of Old Hollywood's brightest comedy stars.
Her personal life was......um....colourful. She'd been in a relationship with a man named Roland West, a director. They'd worked together on a movie, 'Corsair', in 1931. Allegedly, the relationship was volatile, with allegations of Roland being possessive and controlling. Her ex husband was Pat Di Ciccio, who was an agent, but also had links to mobster and was violent to Thelma. She divorced him after one beating too many.
Then there was the infamous Lucky Luciano, the mobster. That relationship involved beatings and Lucky getting her hooked on amphetamines. He wanted to open a casino in the rooms over her successful restaurant, 'Thelma Todd's Sidewalk Café'. Thelma was having none of it.
I've taken the next section from the fabulous 'Find A Death' directory(run by Graham Norton's ex, Scott Michaels):
'On Saturday, December 14th 1935, Thelma was driven to a party, at which she was guest-of-honor at the Cafe Trocadero at 8610 Sunset Blvd. You can still (apparently) see the three entrance steps at the south-east corner of Sunset Blvd and Sunset Plaza. Roland West had told her to be in by 2 am or he would lock her out. The hosts were British music-hall comedian, Stanley Lupino, and his actress daughter, Ida, a close friend, who had agreed to a request by DiCicco that he be seated next Thelma at dinner.
[N.B.: From now on no two accounts agree on exact times].
DiCicco, however, arrived with actress, Margaret Lindsay, as his date and joined another group instead, leading to a brief spat in which Thelma accused DiCicco of deliberately humiliating her. Just after midnight, DiCicco made a phone call from the lobby and left an hour later with Lindsay. Thelma proceeded to get drunk, and confided to Ida that she was seeing a wealthy San Francisco businessman.
As promised, West locked the door to the apartment at 2 am. Thelma left the Cafe Trocadero about forty-five minutes later, promising to see the guests at a party later that afternoon at the home of Mrs Wallace Reid. She was driven away by chauffeur, Ernest Peters, in a Lincoln Phaeton touring car. They arrived at the doors of the Sidewalk Cafe between 3.15 am and 3.30, depending on accounts, and Thelma refused Peters’ usual service of walking her up the steps that led to the apartment entrance.
Some accounts have Peters seeing a brown Packard with its lights off, parked or approaching, before he left.
West claimed that during the early hours of the morning he heard water running in the apartment, but later said that it might have just been the coolers in the bar below.
At 9.30 a.m. a druggist claims that Thelma came in and asked him to make a call for her but that she then disappeared. That afternoon, several witnesses claimed to have seen her driving with a dark-haired man. Mrs. Wallace Reid claims that at around 4.30 pm, Thelma called her, using the nickname ‘Hot Toddy’ that she herself had coined, apologizing for being late but promising to surprise her with a mystery guest.
In the morning of Monday, 16th December the maid, May Whitehead, came to clean the apartment above the Café. At 10:30 am she climbed the staircase to the garage, where she found Thelma slumped dead at the wheel of her Packard convertible.
The ignition was on, but the engine not running (the car was not “still spewing a noxious fog of carbon monoxide” as some accounts relate) and the door of the garage had been partially open. There were two gallons of fuel inside the car, and a smudged handprint on the door. She was only 29.
Thelma was still gussied up in her Saturday night outfit of silk and tulle dress, mink coat and diamond jewelry. Her high-heeled sandals were perfectly clean, although when a policewoman of similar build later attempted to climb the steps up from the Highway, her sandals were dirty. Her lip was bruised, her face streaked with blood, her nose broken and a dental filling dislodged, but her make-up, unsmudged. Her fingernails were undamaged, indicating a lack of struggle. Her blood revealed a level of alcohol inconsistent with her having been able to do much at all. One account says a .13 blood alcohol reading, and a 75-80% carbon monoxide saturation. There were beans and peas in her stomach, although none had been served at Ida Lupino’s dinner.
L.A. County Surgeon fixed the time of death at between 5 and 8 am on Sunday morning, and explained the blood by suggesting that Thelma had struck the wheel with her head. The inquest threw up a number of theories. One, because she was locked out, Thelma had turned on the engine to keep warm and fallen asleep; however, maid May Whitehead stated that she had given Thelma her key and it had been found in her handbag. West stated that frequently Thelma had woken him up by throwing stones or smashing a window, and after all, the door was open. Another, having decided to go out again, she turned on the motor, passed out, and suffocated. The Cashier at the café slept in a room above the garage and had heard nothing. The Coroner’s report runs to over 100 pages.'
Surprisingly, given Thelma's injuries, a verdict of suicide was returned, and the case was closed. There are several suspects, but all are now dead.
They were:
Roland West, Thelma's ex
Pat Di Ciccio, Thelma's ex husband
Jewel Carmen, Roland West's ex wife and part owner of Thelma's restaurant
Lucky Luciano, her lover at the time she died..........
And then there's Stan Laurel. But that's a whole other post.
Thelma Todd - Celebrity Deaths: Findadeath
Pictures and information related to the deceased Thelma Todd. Dearly Departed Tours and Celebrity Deaths: Findadeath.findadeath.com
Ps I’m glad I found another Find a Death fan!
Here is a lovely photo of Clark Gable and Carole Lombard the night they met, playing tennis at a party.
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The rumour goes that Thelma was having an affair with Stan Laurel. However, Stan was still married to his first wife, Lois Neilson, but was divorcing her. He was also seeing Virginia Ruth Rogers, and had proposed to her. Thelma then began seeing Roland West. Stan, allegedly, was not happy about this. Thelma was also pissed off at Stan because he'd been stringing her along, and she threatened to tell Virginia about their affair. Stan had also allegedly said he'd marry Thelma.
The night Thelma died, she told Stan that she was going to tell Virginia all about them. Stan was incensed.
Thelma paid Virginia a visit, but was met by Stan, who refused to let her in. Thelma then left.
Meanwhile, Stan drove to where Thelma was living, over her restaurant(with Roland West in the adjoining apartment), and waited for her by sneaking in through a side door in the garage. When Thelma arrived home, Stan then strangled her with a pair of tights, turned the ignition on, and left.
None of this can be conclusively proven, though, so it's all a matter of conjecture.
Some great stories here...enjoy
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So, the Stan Laurel story is this below?????
Everyone suspected Thelma Todd had been killed, everyone assumed it was the scorned wife of Roland West that did it.
It wasn't.
It was a movie A lister who was a staple of the same films as Thelma Todd.
He had his greatest success working with a male co-star. The same co-star in every film.
He was having sex with Thelma Todd despite being married.
He always made Thelma have sex with him to keep the roles in films and kept promising to marry her.
Thelma was also married and as well as sleeping with this A list actor to get roles in his movies, she was also having an affair with Roland West.
Thelma found out the A Lister was planning to get married to another woman, phoned him to give him an earful and threatened to tell everyone the truth about what he was really like, then drove to the home of Roland West. She tried to get in but he wouldn’t let her.
His wife had found out about his infidelity and it was all kicking off.
Thelma slept there in her car.
An hour or so later, the A lister showed up and sneaked in through a side door of the garage and strangled her to death with a pair of tights.
He then turned on the engine of the car and walked out. She was found dead next morning and cause of death was said to be carbon monoxide poisoning from her car.
Everyone suspected Thelma had been killed, but everyone assumed it was the scorned wife of Roland West that did it.
Nope.
Now you know who it was. The A lister.
His name was Stan Laurel.
wow.
Everyone suspected Thelma Todd had been killed, everyone assumed it was the scorned wife of Roland West that did it.
It wasn't.
Source: http://www.crazydaysandnights.net
It was a movie A lister who was a staple of the same films as Thelma Todd.
He had his greatest success working with a male co-star. The same co-star in every film.
He was having sex with Thelma Todd despite being married.
He always made Thelma have sex with him to keep the roles in films and kept promising to marry her.
Thelma was also married and as well as sleeping with this A list actor to get roles in his movies, she was also having an affair with Roland West.
Thelma found out the A Lister was planning to get married to another woman, phoned him to give him an earful and threatened to tell everyone the truth about what he was really like, then drove to the home of Roland West. She tried to get in but he wouldn’t let her.
His wife had found out about his infidelity and it was all kicking off.
Thelma slept there in her car.
An hour or so later, the A lister showed up and sneaked in through a side door of the garage and strangled her to death with a pair of tights.
He then turned on the engine of the car and walked out. She was found dead next morning and cause of death was said to be carbon monoxide poisoning from her car.
Everyone suspected Thelma had been killed, but everyone assumed it was the scorned wife of Roland West that did it.
Nope.
Now you know who it was. The A lister.
His name was Stan Laurel.
wow.