Mumsnet #22 Are you strange generally?

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Well I’m size 0 because I literally cannot eat. I’m allergic to ALL food, not just peanuts, so please be more sensitive in future as some of us would love the chance to gain weight.
That's modern day vanity sizing though. In the seventies you'd have been a size 22.
 
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My mum and her cousin were both smokers. They had me and my cousin just three weeks apart. They spent most of their time together and said when the health visitor came she had to fight her way through clouds of smoke to get to us two babies. This was in the early fifties and me and Cuz are still both alive so not irrevocably harmed. Mind you, I am only 5ft 2 so I swear she stunted my growth.
For her morning sickness aunt was offered the choice of a cigarette to settle her stomach or this fabulous new anti-sickness drug called Thalidomide. She went with the cigarette.

When mum had me in the local maternity home, dads were barely grudgingly allowed over the threshold. Mum’s were handed baby only when both were clean and tidy, and babies basically stayed in the nursery to be pointed out to dad through a glass windows (yes, yours is back row, third from the left, now go away). Mum’s stayed in the home for a week, mainly on bed rest and if they were lucky baby appeared at regular intervals to be fed and for 5 minutes at visiting times. One of my best mates is still the one I spent a week in the next cot to in the Home Nursery.

When I started work in the late 70’s/early 80’s everywhere was covered with a smoke haze. Opening the door to the office was like walking into a wall of smoke. You could literally cut it. Every desk had an ash tray. When my dad had been in the RAF, he took part of his wages as a baccy ration.
 
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Kinell, has anyone seen the thread titled ‘a letter to the man who kept me hidden for five years’? Cringing myself inside out.
It’s so, so awful! 😁

“In the wake of a breakup memories tend to present themselves like leaves falling off a tree; tiny moments that were overlooked at the time but perhaps were warning from a higher power.” 😂😂😂
 
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For her morning sickness aunt was offered the choice of a cigarette to settle her stomach or this fabulous new anti-sickness drug called Thalidomide. She went with the cigarette.

When mum had me in the local maternity home, dads were barely grudgingly allowed over the threshold. Mum’s were handed baby only when both were clean and tidy, and babies basically stayed in the nursery to be pointed out to dad through a glass windows (yes, yours is back row, third from the left, now go away). Mum’s stayed in the home for a week, mainly on bed rest and if they were lucky baby appeared at regular intervals to be fed and for 5 minutes at visiting times. One of my best mates is still the one I spent a week in the next cot to in the Home Nursery.
This honestly sounds like my sort of childbirth. I honestly think it’s modern day sadism to hand a newborn to a mum who has just been through 36 hours of labour and sliced from front to back and then expect her to parent it 😂 How obvious is it that I hated the entire baby stage??
 
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But ladies we all have SURVIVOR BIAS and need to adjust our expectations. Not understand that… times change.
 
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My mum put me in my cot with about 5 blankets and a pillow on my tummy when I was a baby. I was born in 1984.

So when she took my oldest for her first overnight at 4 weeks in 2016 she asked what the rules were as she knew they changed in 32 years.
Why so many blankets and a pillow on your tummy? Was it to stop babies rolling and suffocating when they couldn't roll back the other way?
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This honestly sounds like my sort of childbirth. I honestly think it’s modern day sadism to hand a newborn to a mum who has just been through 36 hours of labour and sliced from front to back and then expect her to parent it 😂 How obvious is it that I hated the entire baby stage??
I think it's crazy what women are expected to go through in childbirth and after. So many women die, are injured or are not listened to in childbirth (and yes, mumsnetter this happens in developed western countries despite you trying to tell people this never happens!), they're not allowed in positions that would help them most and be most comfortable because its more 'awkward' for the medical staff, some do it without pain relief or not enough pain relief, some are released from hospital the same day, so many emmen have awful childbirth stories. There should be more done to make it a better and easier experience for women, they already have to go through pregnancy and childbirth, at least make it as easy as it can be. Also my uncle had a colonoscopy last week and was given tea and toast after but my cousin (his daugher) gave birth about six weeks ago and her husband had to go and buy her food and drink!
 
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I remember Joan Rivers saying she had a Jewish delivery. Knock you out and wake you up when the hairdresser comes. 😂. That sounds like my kinda childbirth.
 
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I think it's crazy what women are expected to go through in childbirth and after. So many women die, are injured or are not listened to in childbirth (and yes, mumsnetter this happens in developed western countries despite you trying to tell people this never happens!), they're not allowed in positions that would help them most and be most comfortable because its more 'awkward' for the medical staff, some do it without pain relief or not enough pain relief, some are released from hospital the same day, so many emmen have awful childbirth stories. There should be more done to make it a better and easier experience for women, they already have to go through pregnancy and childbirth, at least make it as easy as it can be. Also my uncle had a colonoscopy last week and was given tea and toast after but my cousin (his daugher) gave birth about six weeks ago and her husband had to go and buy her food and drink!
The hospital I gave birth at was amazing (nothing like the taste of post-birth tea and toast!) but I fully agree. What doesn’t help is that childbirth seems to be a spectrum with some women popping kids out saying it’s easy and others (like me) who’d have gladly been euthanised during labour to stop the mindbending pain (I’m not even exaggerating 😩). There’s no way I’d have had any more than two kids simply because - if hell exists - for me it would be the whole pregnancy, birth and baby phase over and over for eternity 😂

Now give me a three year old and up and I’ll tell you it’s a JOY!
 
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Open letter to anyone considering reading the open letter thread:

don’t. I’ve got scroller’s thumb. What a ridiculous piece of navel-gazing rit. Why would anyone hit publish on that? Her poor bleeping dog is now a laughing stock. Stupid bleep. Down a bottle of fizz and sing “I will survive” like a normal person eh!?
 
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Anyone know what the original title of the AIBU to only want brown eggs thread was? Apparently it was trolly and racist so I’m curious.
 
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It was 'no whites allowed!'

Not sure what I was expecting when I first opened it but I wasn't expecting eggs
 
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It was

'no whites please'

So not a click bait title at all. Can tell she feels a bit of a tit now though.
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Please/allowed, sorry
 
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When I started work you could end up sharing an office with someone who smoked. And the ludicrousness of smoking sections on planes, as if the smoke didn’t travel from one row to another. I once saw a debate on MN about that, with people claiming it had stopped in the 60s or 70s. No, still going strong in the 90s.
Definitely still a thing in the 90s. I had a seat towards the back of the plane on my Camp America flight in 1995 and there was a constant procession of people temporarily sitting in the back two rows to smoke.
 
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