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I'm going to presume a significant number of them voted for our present govermnent, so, tough tit eh
 
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I'm going to presume a significant number of them voted for our present govermnent, so, tough tit eh
They all claim to be such ultra woke lefties, but they show their true colours whenever transgender issues are mentioned.
 
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The sneering on the national minimum wage was shocking and disgusting, I bet during lockdown they were quite happy for delivery drivers and Amazon workers to bring them things to their house while they stayed safely at home but they’re so bitter that someone is getting something they’re not.

I think they are liberal lefties until they have to open their purses and then their true self comes out.
 
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Anyone seen the thread about the crazy woman who wanted her colleague to go home because he coughed?! Then spent the whole thread telling people to duck off 😂
 
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A lot of the time it's things like ' What's the point in my DH running his hedge fund if 50% of his 3rd million is going to go on tax?' rather than people genuinely struggling.
tit, and here's me thinking a hedge fund is what you need in order to plant a new hedge to cover up neighbour's horrible fence...
 
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Anyone seen the thread about the crazy woman who wanted her colleague to go home because he coughed?! Then spent the whole thread telling people to duck off 😂
I spent much of last year telling HCPs that I wouldn't notice a dry cough as that's how my asthma shows 😁.
 
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There’s a thread on there at the moment about a Curry’s glitch and a Dell laptop being sold for £99, lots of posters falling over themselves to buy it, saying their partner/kids will use it for gaming.

Naturally the posters who are being more realistic about it are being told they’re jealous, got sour grapes because they missed out on a fab bargain and posters smugly patting themselves on the back because they think they got such a good bargain.
 
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There’s a thread on there at the moment about a Curry’s glitch and a Dell laptop being sold for £99, lots of posters falling over themselves to buy it, saying their partner/kids will use it for gaming.

Naturally the posters who are being more realistic about it are being told they’re jealous, got sour grapes because they missed out on a fab bargain and posters smugly patting themselves on the back because they think they got such a good bargain.
It’s probably the same huns that were moaning yesterday about not having any money . That site just brings out the snark in people.
 
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How often do you actually hear about trans assaulting women in female changing rooms? I don't think I've ever seen a new story about it. Yet it seems to be all they talk about on the feminism boards.
 
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How often do you actually hear about trans assaulting women in female changing rooms? I don't think I've ever seen a new story about it. Yet it seems to be all they talk about on the feminism boards.
Recent articles about an American school with a use the gender you feel you are policy
Follow up article after judge found that the girl was grape.
 
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How often do you actually hear about trans assaulting women in female changing rooms? I don't think I've ever seen a new story about it. Yet it seems to be all they talk about on the feminism boards.
Trans women are such a tiny % of the population that I’d imagine most bathrooms gender neutral or not aren’t being used by them full stop, but I think the issue is more self ID facilitates men with bad intentions as no one is allowed to call out the presence of non conforming people without fear of being labelled a discriminatory TERF etc. So these laws accommodating trans women endanger all women (! Including trans women!) and it’s something that no one seems to want to discuss? I’m not against trans women using women’s bathrooms but I’m against not so much as being allowed to discuss the pros/cons of single sex places (especially places for vulnerable women like prisons and hostels) as it’s now lumped in as TERF tit. Like surely we should be having a nuanced convo of pros/cons which in turn convinces people like me who just don’t get how it’s gotten to this point? All you ever see from trans lobbyists on Twitter is extremities or abuse. I’m not saying that the other side is golden as they’re not, tbh Twitter has made this issue far more toxic than necessary and it’s easy to forget that the vast majority of the country have no idea about this stuff ??
 
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This! And let's not forget that trans activists bullied a woman out of her university career (Kathleen Stock, who actually has moderate gender critical views) so it's baffling to see Mumsnet posters being described as 'taking it to extremes'. Since this is a thread about Mumsnet, I will say that Mumsnet has many problems but the fact that they're clued in on the issues on gender identity is not one of them. Sad to see that women can't even discuss these issues on an anonymous forum without being labelled as haters or whatever.
 
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Sad to see that women can't even discuss these issues on an anonymous forum without being labelled as haters or whatever.
This is a big part of the problem tho. Like I cannot understand what I’m missing, as a v left wing / socialist leaning person I struggle to see how I have more in common with the Julie Bindels of the world than the right on Twitterati, and they’re losing us with good intentions because no one will bleeping have a conversation with us and explain? Like please can someone explain to me how you’re going to safeguard young girls in communal swimming changing rooms from a person you would assume to be male coming in and masturbating in front of them if self ID is a thing and no one’s allowed to question based on appearance? Is it now an after the horse has bolted policy? Like can someone please explain? The only thing that’s come close is people saying oh dangerous men would do that anyway! Well yes, the very worst of them would but lowering the barrier to entry means you get more nutters offending, surely?! It’s not as if SA or grape convictions are even near double digits because it’s so hard to prove/he said she said (or they said she said you know what I mean). Like is it so bad to ask this question?

The thing is none of this reflects poorly on trans women, because I’m not suggesting a trans woman would do that because I’m sure she wouldn’t. All we are asking for is for people to consider every implication of these policies?
 
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This is a big part of the problem tho. Like I cannot understand what I’m missing, as a v left wing / socialist leaning person I struggle to see how I have more in common with the Julie Bindels of the world than the right on Twitterati, and they’re losing us with good intentions because no one will bleeping have a conversation with us and explain? Like please can someone explain to me how you’re going to safeguard young girls in communal swimming changing rooms from a person you would assume to be male coming in and masturbating in front of them if self ID is a thing and no one’s allowed to question based on appearance? Is it now an after the horse has bolted policy? Like can someone please explain? The only thing that’s come close is people saying oh dangerous men would do that anyway! Well yes, the very worst of them would but lowering the barrier to entry means you get more nutters offending, surely?! It’s not as if SA or grape convictions are even near double digits because it’s so hard to prove/he said she said (or they said she said you know what I mean). Like is it so bad to ask this question?

The thing is none of this reflects poorly on trans women, because I’m not suggesting a trans woman would do that because I’m sure she wouldn’t. All we are asking for is for people to consider every implication of these policies?
What I find hard to deal with is that the meaning of trans has changed so that it has gone from being a person with gender dysphoria who more than likely would have had medical treatment to being a person who doesn't even need to have gender dysphoria at all and as this screenshot says. (from a fairplay for women article)
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It’s the DH, DD, DS acronyms I can’t stand. Why did it start? Is it too difficult to type husband, daughter, son?
 
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