i.e. you read it on a forum!It's possible that I am wrong about ALL the dogs being removed by Mr. Colegate - but I knew I read it somewhere and I found some sources, these guys said this:
My gigantic distaste for the Esther committed suicide concept is due to NPD knowledge:Mental strength is not at all incompatible with suicide. In Esther's case, perhaps strength led her to it.
Total NPD. Mind-blowingly hackneyed, too.
Craven.... that's where my mind goes with his obsession for the "crave" word.
Yes, classic NPD. Very severe in his case. It leaks out of every pore.
Learn more about narcissistic personality disorder at: Signs of Narcissistic Abuse and Did this happen to you? These are sample videos; both narcissism specialists have a LOT of videos.
Although he revealed some Esther communications, he revealed zero of his own. I would venture to bet there are hundreds of hoovering communications from thingummyjig to Esther in those last days.Thanks. That's the one!
"When I'm all on my own I crave you,
Yet together I crave only space.
Like a yo-yo we're bound up forever,
As I seek an unattainable place."
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The unattainable place is the future faking.
It's akin to showing a starving cat a bowl of tuna but snatching it away just as the cat gets near the food.
It is mental & emotional torture.
The "bound up forever" is CONTROL.
I can't prove it, but a number of people have been talking about it on WebSleuths and some of them were following her social media accounts well before this tragedy occurred - maybe they are all lying but I doubt it. It has also been claimed that there has been some "sanitising" going on of those social media accounts recently too. As someone who only came to their journey after her disappearance I can't say for sure.Objectively, is that really a fact?
I'm trying to be as clear as I can about what's known to be true, and what subjective conclusions people may draw from that. Do we know for a fact that DC made ED get rid of her/their dogs against her will?
I'm just trying to be clear about what we know and what we don't know. We all have opinions about this subject, but calling them facts doesn't help make things clearer.I can't prove it, but ...
I think that's a good example of what I'm describing. You're so wrapped up in one point of view that you're ready to believe that anyone who disagrees with you is being dishonest.Sometimes I get the feeling Dan is on this forum. Just a feeling.
No. Actually it's about hidden rage and aggression that one can see in NPD posts. Plus attempts to CONTROL others.I think that's a good example of what I'm describing. You're so wrapped up in one point of view that you're ready to believe that anyone who disagrees with you is being dishonest.
i.e. you read it on a forum!
and one of your quoted sources thinks she read it on a forum!
Agree. RAGE. Nothing to do with happiness.Dan? Happy?
Take another look at his personal Instagram. Everyone missed the post where he says (paraphrasing): when you are gone I miss you. When you are near I can't wait for you to leave."
This is textbook narcissistic personality disorder. It is not about him being an ahole. People are very ignorant. NPD is severe abuse.
I no longer log into instagram so can't screenshot.
It's VERY CLEAR to me he's at least one poster on this forum. All it takes is analyzing the writing style. Plus, the comments echo exactly Dan's branding and PR. No critical thinker would treat his statements as truth, since the police have made clear what he brands is not reality. There has been shade in almost every police statement from the beginning, from the lie about the status of the relationship, to the categorizing of Esther as "experienced", to the BS about the quality of the footwear, to the BS about his insistence that there was only one way Esther could have gone, despite her plan to the contrary. SAR indicated at the very beginning they didn't follow Dan's itinerary, since they search even up to the Maladeta Glacier.Sometimes I get the feeling Dan is on this forum. Just a feeling.
What's with the stains? Did they get in an argument in the Gite that resulted in Esther splattering blood? From something Dan caused? Was he cleaning up the site where the remains were found? She bloodied the tent?Hi @SummerSky. Here are three poems written by DC and posted on his IG account at different dates (see reference). These were posted here on Tattle early on by Johara, if I recall correctly. They all scream NPD to me. And I think the poem you are referencing in your post is the 2nd one.
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You seem to be discrediting poster's observations—based on police statements, looking at SM, seeing what Dan does and says—by dubbing them productions of an "echo chamber". Yes, many posters—and media—are making the same observations. That doesn't mean they are echoing one another. It simply means the same red flags are obvious to many people. And they aren't allowing themselves to be swayed by testimonials in PR documents; it's called having critical thinking skills.I'm just trying to be clear about what we know and what we don't know. We all have opinions about this subject, but calling them facts doesn't help make things clearer.
I'm new to this forum, and newish to WS, but one thing that strikes me here (more than there) is the degree to which there seems to be an echo chamber in operation: people repeating things that other people have said as if they were facts, rather than opinions. That can't be helpful when it comes to trying to understand what happened and why.
We shouldn't be afraid to say "we don't know".
Snipped.Victims are perfect fuel for parasites. Victims keep going.
Hmmmm..... I haven't read that @SummerSky believes that everyone who disagrees with him/her is dishonest, just one or several posters. I haven't seen the word "dishonest" anywhere, actually. It seems to me it was more about aligning too perfectly with Dan's PR.I think that's a good example of what I'm describing. You're so wrapped up in one point of view that you're ready to believe that anyone who disagrees with you is being dishonest.
The last line of his 3rd poem:Hi @SummerSky. Here are three poems written by DC and posted on his IG account at different dates (see reference). These were posted here on Tattle early on by Johara, if I recall correctly. They all scream NPD to me. And I think the poem you are referencing in your post is the 2nd one.
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I realise that you have assembled here a crack team of armchair detectives, but even still, they will have a hard time analysing the "handwriting" of a font.Also, the script on the second piece looks very different from the first. Does anyone do handwriting analysis?
Well, I'm definitely not Dan, and it looks to me as if some posters are ignoring what is actually KNOWN in favour of twisting any comment or opinion into a case against Dan. A bad feeling about someone is NOT evidence, and making a psychological diagnosis of someone you've never met is NOT a reason to claim they're guilty of murder.No. Actually it's about hidden rage and aggression that one can see in NPD posts. Plus attempts to CONTROL others.
Not sure why you are quoting me as though my post involved you?Well, I'm definitely not Dan, and it looks to me as if some posters are ignoring what is actually KNOWN in favour of twisting any comment or opinion into a case against Dan. A bad feeling about someone is NOT evidence, and making a psychological diagnosis of someone you've never met is NOT a reason to claim they're guilty of murder.
If there's evidence, law enforcement will find it. Don't rely on what's printed in the Sun!
DC is a bad poet! I think we can all agree about that.I've just read Dan's poems. Of course, poetry can be read any manner of ways. Just unsettling. Dan doesn't exactly help himself with his manner, even if he is completely innocent or not.
... or filled with joy in the mountains she clearly loved, dying suddenly of an accidental fall.I am just reminded of poor Esther in those 3 lost days, cold, hungry and totally alone.
Do you really think it's likely he reads any of this?If Dan is on these forums, he could practice a little humility and respect for a woman who has passed away in truly god awful conditions.
I think it's because Tattle is almost the only place on the web where people can freely discuss Esther's disappearance. Youtubers aren't really doing anything on the tragedy (vs huge interest in Summer Wells), Twitter is quiet. Tattle is really it.To me the “want you here when you’re gone, want space when you’re here” stuff sounds like he’s got an avoidant attachment style. It’s pretty characteristic of it and doesn’t necessarily mean he’s got NPD. However it is wrong that he’s putting it on Instagram for everyone to see and know about their relationship, especially if he was putting it there without talking to Esther about it. I think it’s mega weird tbh but realistically baiting out all their relationship secrets for the sake of “art” and personal expression is something 90% of male singer songwriters & poets do.
Him not featuring her on his Insta is odd, but maybe it makes it harder for his followers to associate the poetry with Esther - he would feel like a mug if more people were asking if it was about Esther I think.
I do think it’s really weird that all these new accounts are popping up discussing it though. I can’t imagine making an account just to discuss one specific case on a completely new website
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